1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,360 I'm Scott, I'm Russell, and I'm Leo. This is Spitball. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Welcome to Spitball, the pitchin' kitchen. Where three startup savants. That's us. Empty 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,080 our heads of all the tech product and startup ideas that we have stuck up in there so you 4 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:30,880 can all have them for free. Anything that we say is yours to keep. And this week I brought 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,280 our guest. Today we have Alex. Alex is my former coworker and good friend and fellow 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,960 tech enthusiast. He is one of the reasons that I know how to code at all because I would 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:50,400 pester him incessantly about syntax and structure questions over the years. And today he's going 8 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,720 to lend us some thoughts. Alex, welcome to Spitball. 9 00:00:53,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Thank you. Hi. This is gonna be a good time. Today to kick us off, we have a guest pitch 10 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,560 that we're going to discuss here. Some of you may know fabulous Neil, Real Neil Pipes 11 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,920 of Steel from Community, Charlie Kuntz. We've pitched him for an idea. So let's take a listen 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,520 to what he's bringing to the table. 13 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,960 What's up, Scott, Russell, Leo, all the Spitball family. How are you? Just in case your audience 14 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:24,440 doesn't know who I am. My name's Charlie Kuntz. I was on a show called Community and a special 15 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,920 shout out to the small but mighty fans of CSI Cyber out there. That was a favorite. 16 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,360 It's raining here in L.A. today, which is a rare occurrence. But I would like to pitch 17 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:42,240 a better umbrella. The classic umbrella. I mean, it's been around for centuries, but 18 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,040 I got to say, I'm not happy with it. You're going to get less wet than you would without 19 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,480 it. But you're still getting wet. I mean, it's got the bar that goes up into the middle 20 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,960 and then it comes out. But then I hold it at this side and then I got a whole area over 21 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,880 here that's keeping the sidewalk dry. And I got this shoulder that's getting all wet 22 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,920 and my pants are getting wet. My shoes are getting wet. Perhaps it's more of like an 23 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,480 L shape. So you hold it in one hand, you can switch it around, whatever, just goes up and 24 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,920 over. Or maybe two. Maybe the ski pole or better yet, an umbrella, an improvement on 25 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:14,400 the hat umbrella, maybe just bigger and dome like. I know it's already kind of invented, 26 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 but I want use of both my hands, too. You know, I'm a busy guy. I got to stay on the 27 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:24,360 phone. I got to I'm moving and shaking. I'm walking. So that's my pitch. The better umbrella. 28 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:31,440 I think it's time for a redesign. I hope that inspires conversation and thought and debate. 29 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,040 And if somebody does invent the new umbrella, I'd like the first one and I'll save it for 30 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,000 the two days in Los Angeles that it brings. So cheers to you all. Thanks for having me. 31 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,520 I can't wait to hear how it all works. 32 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Thanks, Charlie, for your thoughts. So, yeah, he gave us a few places to start, right? 33 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,560 I'm sorry. That was Neil from Community. Right. 34 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,080 I love Community. That's amazing. 35 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,440 That's great. Fabulous Neil. 36 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,440 So isn't this like something that they do already in Japan where they've got like the 37 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,960 ones that go from all the way down to the ground? It's almost like it's got like a shower 38 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,320 curtain attached to the rim of the umbrella or something. 39 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Yeah, I feel like I've seen the like the full body thing. 40 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Yeah, like I feel like it's a I don't know if it's like a fashion thing. 41 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 42 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Yep. Do you be walking around with a shower curtain? 43 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Yeah, it's gonna be hard to make this cool. 44 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,920 Oh, it's a shower curtain guy. It's a guy that walks around with a shower curtain. 45 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,680 I mean, I guess that's a pretty easy way to prototype it, right? Like, right. 46 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,880 I guess that's it. Like, that's the poncho. Like, that's why people don't walk around 47 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,720 with ponchos or garbage bags, you know? Right. 48 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Have you seen those air umbrellas where it's just like a wand that points straight up? 49 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Oh, yeah. It's really high pressure air in all directions 50 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 to deflect the air. What? How big is this? 51 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 So cool. It's just a wand. It's like a pole that you're 52 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,680 holding above your head. How? 53 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,720 I don't know. It must be very loud, though. Like a like a Dyson or something. 54 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,040 A Dyson vacuum. Blowing air out the- 55 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,280 With about 12 minutes of battery life. You have to use an extension cord. 56 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 That's incredible if that's a real thing. I love that. That's the sort of place that 57 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,120 I was starting with was like, is there some sort of technology solution to this that nobody's 58 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,440 thought of? But yeah, Dyson Airblade butt above your head is amazing. 59 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,840 You're fine when you're not, when the rain isn't moving and you're not walking forward. 60 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:31,040 I think that's part of the problem. So you can't walk forward. 61 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Or if it's really windy. Yeah. 62 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Maybe what if you shape the umbrella to like go forward like six extra feet? 63 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Like an awning? I didn't want to say six inches. 64 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,480 I wanted to say like- Six feet. 65 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Oblong umbrella instead of an elliptical umbrella instead of a- 66 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,720 Oscar Mayer Wiener umbrella. Circular. 67 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Yeah. We got it. The place where my mind went to was those 68 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,720 cabs that you can attach to a snowblower. You know what I'm talking about? Where like 69 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,840 you kind of have a full body. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 70 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:14,040 You know who, Chick-fil-A. Have you seen, have you gone to Chick-fil-A when it rains? 71 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Yeah, the things they wear. That's right. They've got like little pop-up tents. 72 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,520 They're like little minions with clipboards. Is it like on their back or are they like 73 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,720 off to the side? I don't know how it attaches to the body, 74 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,440 but it's like a pop- Oh, it's attached to you. 75 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Yeah. It's a full pop tent, bright fluorescent yellow thing with a little window. It's funny. 76 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,760 Walking around with perfect cubes. There's no way anyone in LA would ever wear anything 77 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,160 like that. I think, yeah. What's the fashionable umbrella? 78 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,160 Like what's, I think that's part of it. Stainless steel. 79 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:52,360 60 pounds. Beauty is pain. 80 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Just an aluminum cube around you with a little eye slit and nothing else. 81 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,400 You mentioned the umbrella hat. I want to circle back to this Dyson Airblade idea. Can 82 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,640 we integrate this into something you wear? So it's pushing the force field of water around 83 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,200 you like a bubble. Like a backpack? 84 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,320 I love that. Backpack for the batteries because that thing's 85 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,400 going to be heavy. I don't want to wear that on my head. 86 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,240 One of those straw hats or a bucket hat. Yeah. 87 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,640 I really like that. Like one of those, the sun hats, but like 88 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,600 three foot out. Yes. 89 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:36,400 A sun hat that emits 15 PSI in all directions. Three foot diameter hat with a Dyson vacuum 90 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,960 on full reverse. There's no way you can do that quiet either. 91 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,280 I was just going to say that. I think down the hall and around the corner of the alleyway, 92 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,520 "Whaaa!" coming over towards you. That's going to be great. 93 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,640 I'm just picturing like a funeral scene in a Hollywood movie where everyone's dressed 94 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,360 in black with their black umbrellas. And there's just that one guy just "Whaaa!" 95 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,960 That's like a, I think you should leave sketch or something. That's great. 96 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Sounds real. Women's hair getting messed up as you walk 97 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,720 by. Papers, newspapers stand going flying into the breeze. 98 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,320 So what if we go a different way, right? Like the other way to get rid of water is to heat 99 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 it up, right? And then it'll turn to steam and go away. So all we got to do is just make 100 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,640 a super hot plane above the head, right? Yeah. 101 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Alex, yes. Can we build like a plasma hat or something? 102 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,800 A plasma hat? Dude. 103 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,480 We could have done lightsabers. Nope. We're doing umbrellas. 104 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,240 It just whirs like a helicopter above your head. 105 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,040 There you go. The full lightsaber effect. 106 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Just don't get too close to somebody else, right? 107 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Accidentally behead your dinner date. Dude, what about like a ceiling fan though? 108 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Like, could you do like a ceiling fan type of... A ceiling fan hat. 109 00:07:51,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Like a helicopter hat that actually... Okay. Quadcopters. Okay. How much power does a quadcopter... 110 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,840 When one blade just isn't dangerous enough. They are loud, but they're not like that loud. 111 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,880 You're going to have the strongest neck of any human alive as you're supporting the force 112 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,680 of... No, it's doing upward thrust. 113 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,280 It's doing upward thrust. Wait, what? Downward thrust. Oh, downward thrust. 114 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,880 It's forcing you into the ground. Shooting the air up. 115 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:30,600 They can just carry like a tarp above you and then... Oh. 116 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Yeah, you get four of them on each corner and... It follows you around autonomously down the street. 117 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,680 Yeah. And then, you know, it's high enough away... They already do that, right? 118 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:44,520 Yeah, you can't hear it because it's, you know, it's 50 feet in the air or whatever, 119 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,280 but it's aligned perfectly so that whatever vector the rain is coming down is, it will not hit you. 120 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:56,840 Yeah, you've created an anti-cloud. Anti-cloud, that's a good name. 121 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,800 That's my favorite so far. Yeah, that's mine as well. 122 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,840 Hope that helps, Charlie. We solved it for you. Next. 123 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Yep. We'll take investment. 124 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,000 All right, Russell, what is an idea that you would love to implement but just don't have time for? 125 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:21,880 All right. So, I have a baby, a big dog, and the house is constantly getting smaller 126 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,640 because every year you get new shit. Just constantly. It just doesn't stop. 127 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:33,720 And I'm not getting rid of shit fast enough. So, you kind of store it and you run out of space to 128 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,160 store it all, start organizing. And I had this brilliant idea. All right. 129 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Why? I don't need everything in my house. I need it accessible at some point in time, 130 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:57,160 but not right away. So, what if I had a storage locker like Amazon, where I had all of my extra 131 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:03,480 stuff in inventory on a website that I could leave my stuff outside, they'd pick it up, 132 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:10,280 store it in their warehouse. I could order my stuff, already exists to be at my house within 133 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:18,040 one to two day shipping, two hour shipping. I don't know. Just storage garage meets Amazon 134 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:24,840 logistics. And we got ourselves... I don't need to buy another house or a garage or a basement 135 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,240 storage room. I just store it in my Amazon storage garage. 136 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,920 I love that. Yes. 137 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 But it's cool because I feel like I'm buying my own shit again. 138 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:42,280 I buy it twice. So, that's it. 139 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,080 I have been wondering what to do with my new pole barn. 140 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:45,480 There you go. 141 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Yeah. And then it's like... 142 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Rent it out, lease it out to this. 143 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:53,640 I was just going to say, yeah. You know how people moonlight as an Uber driver or an Amazon 144 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,040 delivery driver. You are literally the whole stack. 145 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,320 There you go. Crowdsource. No, crowdsource everything. There's tons of people with pole 146 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,520 barn space. So, you have on one side, you got people storing and then you got the drivers too. 147 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 So, you got the full... 148 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,360 Dude, like your winter storage clothes, your summer storage clothes, it's two days away. 149 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:20,440 And the whole system, it's like they take pictures and they store it. And it's a subscription. 150 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,800 You probably pay per square foot or something. And it's not too expensive or you price yourself 151 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,800 out, but it's like, all right, winter clothes, go into store is on. 152 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,040 I don't know what's... I don't have a name for it yet. 153 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Store is on. 154 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Yeah. 155 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,120 I would want some guarantee that it's not being fiddled with and rifled through. So, 156 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:45,160 you could do this per box where you have it like locking. I know that I have inventoried it myself 157 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,680 to have these eight items in the box or whatever. And it just, it has my own code that I set on it 158 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:55,400 or a key that I keep and gets whisked away. I want boxes number three and seven today, 159 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,160 please. And I'll swap out whatever's in it. 160 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,040 Love that. You have your own inventory of what's in there. 161 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,440 Sure. 162 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Just request it and it shows up that day. I'm just picturing all these like storage 163 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,680 units that you see where they just hire a runner who's like, I am the guy that 164 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:12,680 runs back and forth and brings your shit from this place to your house. 165 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:19,080 Yeah. It seems like the next shipped app, right? Like you got the ship shoppers, 166 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,640 the Uber, like storage garages. That's the next, the next innovation. 167 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:32,280 And I hate seeing good space being developed into storage units. That is the most ugly, 168 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,960 annoying, like sad use of like a downtown area, right? If you do this, you can whisk it away to 169 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,000 the warehouse district or people's bowl barns or whatever. 170 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,320 I mean, you could even go to the Airbnb route. You get an extra room, you can 171 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:52,520 hire out your extra room and I'll store 10 totes or whatever, right? 172 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Yes. 173 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,760 You can have someone coming into your, on your property at 1am being like, 174 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,520 "No, I got to get totes four through seven." 175 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,080 Presumably the app or service would coordinate. 176 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Yeah. 177 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:09,720 You have to have this area accessible by the pickup person at these times of day, 178 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,120 or you just set it on the back porch or whatever. 179 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:18,840 Yeah. You can upsell it like temperature controlled, cooler unit. If you want to go 180 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:25,640 full three sided marketplace with it, right? I'm just thinking I rent a old ass warehouse, 181 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,040 couple of vans. That's it. 182 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,200 Sounds like you're plotting a murder. 183 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,160 Yeah. I'm selling. 184 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,760 I know. I was just starting to think that too. I was like, "Is there some kind of like 185 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,760 liability issue here?" 186 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Well, it's seasonal, you know? So we have the kidnapping season and we have a storage running 187 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,600 season on the downtown. 188 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Legally, when that box you're storing starts to smell real bad, what are your rights? 189 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,280 I didn't think about that. 190 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:54,920 That's a great question. 191 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Yeah. 192 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,640 So I would pitch it like, "Get your basement back." 193 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Yeah. 194 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,000 You know? Add square footage to your home at $2 a square foot. 195 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,880 I am a child at heart. I would store some of my gadgets and then be excited to see them again 196 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,080 six months from now. 197 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Right? 198 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,640 I think most people would. Not only get your basement back, but like you said, 199 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,640 excited to see my stuff again. Yeah. 200 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,800 I love that. Honestly, just put a scrapbook in there and then it comes back a year later 201 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,840 or several years later and be like, "Oh yeah, this is really cool." 202 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,960 How big could we go? Because it'd be great if I could send my snowblower off when I'm 203 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,040 not going to need it for nine months. 204 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Oh my gosh. That is... Yes. Exactly. 205 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Stay out the mower for the blower. 206 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,480 You have small totes, big totes, and pallets. And just whatever you can put on the pallet, 207 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,160 we move it from point A to point B. 208 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Yeah. 209 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Wow. This is real. This seems real. It is. 210 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,160 I think so. Yeah. Now we just got to come up with a good name for it. 211 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:53,960 What did you say earlier? 212 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,320 Store-azon. I already said it. 213 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,120 Store-azon. There it is. It's like a Power Ranger villain. 214 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:06,120 It's Zordon. That's the help desk ticket person. 215 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Here's another thing. You could look at your stuff and then it's already hosted at some facility. 216 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,960 You could list it at that point too. You could sell your stuff through this app as well. 217 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,440 There you go. 218 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,480 So now it becomes... 219 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Somebody else meets you up. Yeah. 220 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Storage and fulfillment. So now Facebook marketplace is now managed through store-azon. 221 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Rights to the snowblower that Alex put in storage. 222 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Or rent it out. 223 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 You can take over the movement... 224 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Oh my gosh. 225 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Or the moving industry too. Why take all this time over a weekend to load up a truck and drive 226 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,880 it to my new house if I can just send all my stuff to the warehouse and then send it to my new house 227 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,120 later? 228 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Get it at my leisure. Whenever I need it, I'll pull it out. 229 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Oh shit. Yeah. It's just like I can store my whole house and then buy it one at a time. 230 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Rebuy it. 231 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,400 So is it subscription model or is it like a per shipment? 232 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,680 I feel like I'd have... 233 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Both. 234 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,200 If it was me, I would do a subscription model just because... 235 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,680 Exactly what you're saying, Russell. I don't want to be buying my stuff back every time. 236 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 I just want to hit a button and have it show up. 237 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Yeah. 238 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,640 Paying $99 a year or whatever. 239 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Probably more than that, but whatever it is. 240 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 And we can't just afford to store stuff for free. 241 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,480 That's taking up space somewhere. Yeah. 242 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Yeah. I don't know what the price... 243 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,640 I mean, I think it'd be a little bit of both at first until we found the right mix of 244 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,480 price and spice. 245 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Yeah. 246 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Ideally, it'd just be Amazon Prime style because everybody knows that. But I don't know. 247 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,400 I think it's per box. 248 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,320 You'd have to store it. The costs are storage and shipping. 249 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,440 And hosting and... 250 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Yep. 251 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,920 I can't stop thinking about the take a cut to sell it though. You're looking at a catalog of 252 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 all your shit. You say, "You know what? I haven't even pulled that out of the storage unit in two 253 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:05,800 years. Let me press one button." The site takes 30%. They list it on Facebook Marketplace for you. 254 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,080 They do the meetup. They sell it. Man, that's great. 255 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:09,720 That's so good. 256 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,600 They could even... They could do suggestions of like, "Hey, you haven't touched this thing in 257 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,440 five years." 258 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:16,920 Oh, yeah. 259 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,360 Shit. I shouldn't have pitched this. 260 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:22,680 It's so good. It's like writing a check to someone else. No money actually changed hands, 261 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,320 but you're now the owner of this thing somewhere else. 262 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Oh, yeah. Because technically, you don't even need to send it to your house. It could just be like... 263 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,520 No. They just have access to it now in the same storage unit. 264 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,800 That's great. 265 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Did I even buy anything? 266 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,920 It's like NFTs. 267 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,040 It is. 268 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Except they actually have something behind it. 269 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,200 I bought a new computer. I just... 270 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,240 There's a physical object somewhere. 271 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,960 I haven't seen it yet. 272 00:17:51,960 --> 00:18:01,960 And then you built a buying and selling assets tradable commodity market where you can invest 273 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,080 by buying up all the area snowblowers. And then in three months, you've got them all. You can 274 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,960 slowly introduce them back out into the market. 275 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,760 Refurbished, like new. 276 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:21,400 It's like how people... There's a whole corn market and stuff, the ETFs, right? People don't 277 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,000 actually keep the corn in their warehouses. They're just selling pieces of paper that say, 278 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:31,400 "This is good for 12 truckloads of corn." Yeah. It's a speculative asset market. I love this. 279 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,560 Speculative markets with store... What's your store? 280 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speculative garage sale. 281 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Yeah. This is the next level from those storage wars reality shows where they buy a unit. 282 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,720 You know what's in there. That's great. 283 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,200 See, that's how you can cut your costs down too. It's like, "Oh, you could get your subscription 284 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:57,640 paid for each month by selling stuff through the service or just flat rate." We make some finance 285 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:05,000 guy gurus looking at this and saying, "If we store 100,000 pallets, we make actually 10 million a 286 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:12,280 year. So just assets under management, baby." That's what they say, I think, in the CFO office. 287 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:19,960 And so they're like, "Yeah, just free. Make it free." And then we sell for 100. That's 288 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,600 the subscription. 289 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,100 Right. 290 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:31,160 Or the old, "How could we commoditize this data?" We know everything that these people own, right? So 291 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,120 there's your monetization. 292 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:38,360 You sell everything that they own to them. "Hey, these guys have a lot of cat accessories, 293 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,120 Facebook. Now you have that." 294 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,560 Whoa. 295 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,760 "MetaQuest 2s are going in storage all over the world. Sell Facebook stock." 296 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Partner with the insurance industry. 297 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,360 Boy. 298 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,080 Yeah. 299 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:58,200 When us, this business, has information on all of the stuff that's around these 300 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,400 clients' houses, that's something. 301 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,680 It seems good. 302 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Well, I mean, even just think about how easy it would be to itemize your... 303 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Whatever you call the list of the stuff that you own. 304 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,560 You have an insurance claim to make and you've got like, "Oh, well, these were the items that 305 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,760 I did not have checked in." Right? So like... 306 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,640 Sure. This is a complete house inventory system. 307 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,800 You can get a better deal on your insurance depending on how much your stuff is stored 308 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,440 at this facility. 309 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:36,040 If you go around your house with our new app and you note with object recognition and/or 310 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:42,120 typing in stuff manually, everything you own, we will even make suggestions on the things that 311 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:49,080 make sense to put into storage seasonally. Or you make the walk once a week. Boy, it looks like that 312 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,120 thing has been sitting on a shelf untouched every week you've walked by for six months. 313 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,680 Maybe you should put that in storage. 314 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Doesn't Amazon own Roomba now? Can't they just like put little cameras on there, 315 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,400 just figure it out on its own with every backseat? 316 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,720 No joke why I switched away from Roomba. I didn't love the idea of like, "Hey, we noticed 317 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:13,080 that there's a new baby crib in your house. Want some new baby accessories? Screw you, 318 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,640 iRobot." 319 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,240 God, it's so dystopian. 320 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,640 Amazon cameras flying around my house feeding back data to the headquarters is a 321 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,240 real dystopian something, huh? 322 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,240 You guys need anything? You guys need to store anything? First customers? 323 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,760 You piloting out your basement? 324 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:32,200 I was thinking garage or my trunk of the car, but... 325 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:43,400 Captain Leo, what you got this week? 326 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:49,400 All right, so this goes along really nicely with the needing to increase organization in my home 327 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,280 idea. So... 328 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Storazon. 329 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Storazon. This is a product that Storazon is going to sell to us. So I have a bookshelf, 330 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,200 and I don't know if you have seen a collection of children's books altogether, but they're all 331 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,160 really small, which means that they kind of make a bookshelf look ridiculous. It's so 332 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,880 overstuffed with a billion books. 333 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:16,200 I want to either sell an add-on kit for an existing nice bookshelf or sell a whole bookshelf 334 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:22,600 with my product integrated that is an Arduino or some kind of microcontroller on the side. 335 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,360 It's got a barcode scanner, and it's got some sort of touch screen, simple little interface, 336 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:34,840 doesn't need a complicated UI. And then I want to have strips of LEDs and/or presence detection 337 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:41,000 that go all along the tops of the shelves. So when I buy a new book or I get gifted a new book, 338 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,480 I walk up to my little thing and I scan its barcode and I put it anywhere on the shelf. 339 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,800 And then someday later, when I want to retrieve my book, I walk up to the interface and I say, 340 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:57,240 I'm looking for this book, start typing, and it gently lights up roughly the area on the shelf 341 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,120 where the book went. And either a book is checked in or checked out. I've got a list of all the 342 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:06,600 books that I have that are on the shelf itself, but I'm running up against the problem of having 343 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,320 a disorganized mess of shelves. And I think other people might too. There are book collectors out 344 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,200 there, I'm sure with their home libraries that have a really big collection. It would be neat 345 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,600 to be able to say, where did I put the grapes of wrath again? And then just a soft little glow 346 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,640 over in the top left. Oh, I see it's up on the third shelf there. Let me grab it. And you don't 347 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,440 need to have it be absolutely precise right on the book, but give me like a hint, because I'm tired 348 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,320 of rifling through all these little tiny five page children's books trying to figure out where 349 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,360 the heck that one went. - So a digital Dewey decimal system. 350 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:43,560 - Dewey decimal, because it's not perfect, right? - Yeah, but it doesn't even have to be organized. 351 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,800 It just knows, oh, you put it here somewhere, right? Organize it however you want. 352 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,240 - There you go. - I want to try to build this so bad. 353 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,920 It wouldn't be that hard, right? - I've seen a guy do it before with phones. 354 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,960 So there's this guy on YouTube. He built a shelf system for this guy who has a phone collection. 355 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,320 He's a reviewer of phones or something. I don't know, but had a whole, you flip through the 356 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:16,360 database, select the device you want, and the LEDs fly across and then stop on the one that 357 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,600 you're looking for. It was pretty cool. - Like a vending machine, but for my own stuff. 358 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,200 - Yeah. - I need to walk into a library and it needs to 359 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,800 know what book I want and just guide me there through the lights. I just follow the light. 360 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,440 - I really like that, actually. Have you guys ever read Ender's Game way back when? 361 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,160 So you have a bunch of people in a space station that's huge and they don't know where to go, 362 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,840 and you scan your badge on the side and the floor will light up and take you to where you want to go, 363 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,040 just a string of LEDs, and you follow your color. Put that in a library and then have it go up to 364 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040 the shelf as well. - Every grocery store, 365 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,880 every bookstore, any store should have that. You have the Meijer or whatever your local grocery 366 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,960 store is app, and it's guiding you. Yes! - Wow. The thought that this could be in 367 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800 a grocery store just- - Why does that exist? 368 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,080 - I don't know. It took me to another place. Like, that's what- 369 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240 (all laughing) 370 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,840 - We need that. - What does that mean? 371 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,360 - You give it your 12 things. You give your 12 things to the shopping list and you walk in the 372 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,840 door and tap your phone to the little pad. - Builds an optimized list. 373 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:28,280 - And it just gently guides you to the exact, like, traveling salesman optimized path through 374 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,680 the store. It doesn't really benefit the store to have you be so laser focused, though. They 375 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840 want you to mandor around. - I don't know. Walmart's desperate, 376 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,640 though. Like, they need help. - Yeah, make it your MVP. 377 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,840 - Kmart could have used this. They were like, you know, sinking ship. They would have maybe 378 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,560 survived if they had. - There was a brief moment in time 379 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,320 where Google and Apple were trying to make Bluetooth beacons a thing where you would walk 380 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:55,000 through the physical worlds and little coin-sized Bluetooth emitters would have some sort of unique 381 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,360 piece of info. So you could have that store or that mall or whatever's app and it would say, 382 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:05,000 "Oh, you're near the bananas. They're on sale this week," kind of stuff, right? It seems like 383 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,720 we were almost there 10 years ago and we totally turned away. Probably privacy concerns. 384 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,160 - And Bluetooth is just a terrible protocol. - It was too progressive. 385 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,840 - So is this like searching? I want to find stuff all over my house all the time. Does it have to 386 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,360 be books? I get the idea. So I guess... - Like a tile tracker, but... 387 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:32,840 - I'm a software guy, all right? So 360 camera through the whole house. This is some next level 388 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,920 shit. Inventory, like... - We last saw the TV remote slide into 389 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:43,560 this couch cushion from OCR four hours ago. - Stick RF tags on everything. 390 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,440 - Roomba does it already, right? We just talked about how Roomba and Amazon already 391 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:55,320 figures out what's in your house. Just monetize that. Just inventory everything. 392 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840 - I don't know. I kind of like the idea of being able to put in some cheap 393 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:05,640 vinyl that has LEDs built into it and my house can guide me to... I guess the only example I can come 394 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,960 up with is the remote, like you said. - It's 2 AM and the dotted light 395 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,120 in my drunk ass is guiding me to the bathroom. - I mean, like the amount of times where I've 396 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,840 been like, "Where did I set my phone down? Where did I..." 397 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,240 - "Hey Google, find my ex." - It's like airplane or theater 398 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,000 emergency exit lighting dotting the floor. - What's cool about it is it's not super 399 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:35,480 specific. So it's just like, it's in the bedroom. It's got a pissy kind of like, 400 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,720 you dumb ass tone to it to really send a message home. 401 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:47,320 But like that would be convenient. Like, thank you. 402 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:54,680 - Slightly exasperated with you. - Again, you left it on the counter. 403 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,280 You put your car keys in the freezer again, dumbass. 404 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,000 - Why does the freezer let me is really the question. 405 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,120 - New product, new week. - A freezer that's bitchy? 406 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,640 - No, it just has a metal detector on it. - There you go. 407 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,480 - So this is like, do you have a big bookshelf, Leo? Or like, are you just, this is like LED? 408 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,920 - No, that's my problem. I have a pretty small bookshelf and I need a bookshelf that's bigger. 409 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,040 And so we have books on the shelf and spilling out of the shelf and on top of the shelf in piles. 410 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:34,680 It's not like we have thousands of books, but children's books are just irregular. Some of 411 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,320 them are cardboard books, and some of them are like five pages, and some of them are thicker, 412 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,720 heavy, hardcover things. And because you're trying to stick them all on the shelf together, 413 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,760 most of them are too small to be obvious from the side what they are. If I'm putting War and 414 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,480 Peace on my shelf, it's pretty obvious what that is from the side, but these little tiny 415 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,760 six page books, not so much. - Dude, it's such a huge problem. 416 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:03,640 And then the kid is, my kid at least, will cry now until he gets the book. 417 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,960 - Yeah, that's the thing. The four-year-old will come to me and say, "Can we read this?" 418 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,760 And I just feel the dread in my heart. "Oh, okay, let's go find it." I'm sure mom knows exactly 419 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,920 where that is. Nope, not me. This is going to be a 10 minute treasure hunt that you and I are going 420 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760 on, bud. - Yep, and bedtimes, 421 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,440 we're already 10 minutes late. It's just like... - You're angry, you're exhausted. Yeah. 422 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640 - Yeah, exactly. - Could you take a picture of your 423 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,160 bookshelf, Leo, and then process it? Could you Google Lens this shit, where you just like, 424 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,120 "All right, here's my bookshelf, click." It scans all the book titles, guesses, 425 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:46,920 it knows all the page sizes, it knows all the books and says, "Oh, this book is normally eight 426 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:54,520 inches tall, this wide. Here are the 30 books that match this description." 427 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,520 - That's interesting. Yeah. Based off of Amazon product listings and stuff, I'm sure that those 428 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,840 rough numbers are... Yeah, yeah. - Dude, yes, Amazon would love that. 429 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,200 They get a picture of your bookshelf, they know what you want, they know what you read, 430 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,160 and then they make recommendations on the sidebar after you're done scanning. "We found your book. 431 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,280 Did you think about these three books, are there two?" 432 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,160 - Did you know there's a sequel? Yeah, right. - Now we have a monetization method. 433 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,080 I really like that though, like an IoT LED strip that you have just in front of each of your 434 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,680 bookshelves, and then whether it's Amazon controlling it or your own app, like what you 435 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,000 were talking about, either way it can light up and tell you. - The original MVP of this is something 436 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,200 that I think someone out there could build because it's really simple. It just needs to remember 437 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,240 this number, light up LED number 61 over down in a corner. Got it. 438 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,320 - I just feel like there's so many applications to this too. 439 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,240 - Yeah, yeah. It could be your shelf in your garage filled with screws on your tool bench. 440 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Where is the 12 millimeter whatever? Because I've got 600 kinds of screws I'm looking at 441 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,240 in little tiny buckets. Oh, right over here. - Pantry for you put in a recipe, 442 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,080 and it'll light up all the different spots that you have to go grab stuff from. 443 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,400 - That's a good one. I want to make this tonight. - You want to dig around for cumin? 444 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,160 - Right. - Everything lights up. 445 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,600 - Dude, Alex with the curve balls up in here. All right. That's amazing. 446 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,760 - That is amazing. - I want chicken pot pie. Send it. 447 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,760 - I'm sorry, you don't have peas. - Put it on your, like a liquor shelf 448 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,320 or something and just, I want to make, you know, mojitos tonight and just boom, 449 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,720 everything lights up. - Yeah, right. It's got your 450 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,120 cocktail bar area. It's got, oh, and if you put the lights under the liquors, then they all light 451 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,120 up like you're at a fancy bar. There you go. - But I have booze all over my house. So like... 452 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,880 - Your whole house lights up, man. - Alcoholic mode. 453 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,440 - Maybe you have to add a chime too, just so you can like, where in the house is it? 454 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,800 - It's a little puck that goes on the bottom of the bottle that lights it up beautifully. And yeah, 455 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,280 it's like an air tag. Yeah, there you go. - Also, if it moves, I want to hear a chime. 456 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,920 - Find my vermouth. - Google, where's my vodka? 457 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:24,760 - All right, Scott, what wholesome family-friendly organizational product have you brought this 458 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720 to? - I wish. So pretty early on, 459 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,440 we had done a motivational app that we talked about, and I want to take that to the next level 460 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:38,600 here. I want to make an app and I want to call it not mutually assured destruction, but mutually 461 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:45,640 assured dedication. And so how it works is you have a group of people, and let's say we have a 462 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:51,320 group of guys and we all want to start working out. Like we just all want to get in shape. And 463 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,680 so we'll say the four of us here, we're all going to contribute to a pot. We'll say whatever amount 464 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:04,120 that would make you upset if you lost it, $100, $1,000, whatever. And if any of us does not 465 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,760 complete our goal for that week, all of us lose the money. There is nothing more motivating than 466 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,480 people breathing down your neck being like, "Hey, did you work out this week? Did you complete your 467 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,760 goal? Did you check that box?" It's not just me fighting me at this point. It's me fighting all 468 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:27,080 of you guys. It's not competition. It's you guys getting your ass in here as well as mine. 469 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120 - That's brutal. - Oh, nice. 470 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,600 - Yes. I don't care what you're using this for. It's working out. It's trying to quit smoking, 471 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,760 whatever. You're assigned an account to Billabuddy. As soon as you log into this app, 472 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:44,280 you set your money off to the side. You have to complete your task. Otherwise, everyone loses. 473 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:52,120 - I have a philosophical question about this. So is it more motivating for everyone to keep each 474 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:59,720 other accountable if you can see who has and has not yet completed for this week, or if it's hidden? 475 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,120 - Ooh. - And it's terrifying to not know 476 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040 who's done it yet or not. - I'd definitely hit it. 477 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000 - Oh, gosh. - Yeah. You cannot, in your mind, 478 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,640 be the person to fail. I do not want to fail my friends. The embarrassment would just kill me here. 479 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,920 That's a great question. - There's arguments either way, right? 480 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120 Because if you're the only one left and it's halfway through the week, like, "Come on, 481 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,160 just finish off the week. We're all done already," right? But then if nobody can see where anyone is. 482 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:29,480 - I mean, you would just start conversations. This is life or death at this point. One of 483 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,760 those games, like, "I'm going to lose $1,000." Or like $500. 484 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,040 - I feel like, so when you're eight hours out from the deadline for that week, month, whatever, 485 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,280 you got to start a countdown time. And that's like one person, two people still haven't completed 486 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,640 their thing. - Oh, that's good. Yeah. You know if it's you. 487 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,640 - Anonymous. Yeah. - That's a great idea. 488 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,880 - Exactly. - Dude, I think the scariest part is like 489 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,600 somebody not logging into the app and checking the box or something. Because I feel like it's like, 490 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,880 "You did it, but you didn't check the f***ing box. Get your f***ing ass into the app." 491 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,760 - If I had that much money in the line, I would drive to your door and I would be banging on it 492 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,640 at your house being like, "Russell, work out." Or whatever. "I will move your legs, you m****." 493 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:21,160 - "I went camping and had no service." - "I will buy you a phone, you piece of s***." 494 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,960 - Oh, that is, I think what sucks up, what's more motivating about that is not, 495 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,000 it's the fact that you are letting three other people experience failure. 496 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,880 - Exactly. - Yeah. 497 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,880 - And however many. - It's not like self-accountability. 498 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,880 - So, here's a question is if everybody loses, where does the money go? 499 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,840 - The company. That's your business model. - So, what's in it for them? Is there a reward 500 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,640 if everybody completes it? You get your money back plus? 501 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:59,720 - No, there's no reward. It's just not being embarrassed is your reward. Not being shunned 502 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,600 by your friends. And that is motivation enough. Into your question about the money, just, 503 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,000 I don't know, pick the most likely political affiliation with your group and send it to 504 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,440 the opposite party or something. I don't know. - That's a fun idea. 505 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:19,160 - Give you even more incentive to... - Pick from this list of most divisive 506 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,000 political organizations or whatever. Yeah. The NRA. 507 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,360 - Us. - PETA. 508 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,560 - The company. - It can't be going towards something you 509 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,680 want. - Right, exactly. 510 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,560 - Like, I can't be to harbor humane or puppies can't get this money. No, it's got to be something 511 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:40,040 bad. Or heck, just put in a shredder. - Dude, just make the app call it... 512 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,960 - We're solving inflation too. - You got to call it putting it in the 513 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160 shredder, but really, I think that's your business model, man. You just collect all 514 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,280 the unpaid payments and you've built an app. - Don't make me rich. Don't make me rich. And 515 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360 it's all about other people betting to not make you rich. It's just... 516 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,880 - Yeah. Isn't there a, I think it's Fox Sports has the win so-and-so's money. 517 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040 - Yeah, I was thinking, yeah. - Something new. 518 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,840 - With Ben Stein's money. - But you can have a mascot that's like, 519 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:15,080 don't let the hamster guy steal your group's money or whatever. And he can be the embodiment 520 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,280 of the thing you don't want to get, but really that's just like your business revenue. 521 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:26,200 - Yes. That sounds like fun. I swear, I feel like the social loss, whether it's money or not, 522 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,160 it's just like, oh, I just made Leo spend $500 because I... 523 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,000 - We had talked about before, like making it a competition, or a step bed or whatever. I want 524 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,480 to beat out all my friends. No, embarrassment is stronger than competition. 525 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,800 - This is an upgrade. This is the first sequel 2.0 we've ever had on the show. 526 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520 - 2.0. - Okay, other than working out, 527 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,400 what would you use this for? - Trying to quit smoking, cooking during a week. 528 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640 - Any bad habits? - I guess so. 529 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,440 - Any bad habits. - Trying to get outside at least once a day. 530 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,520 - It's simple. I feel like it would be easy to do an MVP for. 531 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,840 - Yeah, with like Stripe and some other kits and stuff, it wouldn't be that hard to get up 532 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,720 and running with this. You could even just have it be a web app. It doesn't even have to be like 533 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,840 a native app. - I feel like a lot of friends might be lost by this app, but you can't make it too 534 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,480 easy though. You got to actually put the fear of God into them that your friends are going to lose 535 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,000 their money. - That's where the money goes. 536 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800 - Truly in deep losing. - Is we hire a bunch of auditors. 537 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,320 - I don't know. You don't look like you've been working out. 538 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,240 - Your money pays for our auditors. - You don't look like you've been working out. 539 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,480 - I sit in a sauna, all right? It's a middle ground. 540 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:44,120 - We're going to need a blood sample. - We see your testosterone's level on this 541 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,680 data. It's more than just working out, but yes. - All right, here's a curve ball. 542 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:55,800 So what if you challenged, what if you made like a challenge, a blank mystery box challenge, 543 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:04,280 this week only, accept or deny $50 mystery challenge. I sent it to you and Leo, 544 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,840 and you either join the challenge or you don't. And then you click accept or deny. It's like truth 545 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,200 or dare, but challenge. So it's like bet, but next level. It's like- 546 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,120 - You know what the challenge is though, right? - We have no idea what the challenge is. It's just 547 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,600 Scott is going to challenge me to do a freaking workout event. I know him. He's always going to 548 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:30,120 do that. So I'm going to accept. It's easy. - So if I accept the challenge, I get the money. 549 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,720 And if I don't fulfill the challenge, I have to pay? 550 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,920 - Oh, there needs to be a reward. - Do you have to buy in? 551 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,560 - I didn't think that hard. - Probably. 552 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,800 - I just want Russell to lose $50. - I don't know the idea of like getting 553 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:52,520 a challenge in my app and being like, "Ooh, a $50 challenge." I guess it doesn't really- 554 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:59,480 - Do you remember the rule? No, we got this. Do you remember the feeling of sitting in a public 555 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560 place when HQ Trivia was going? - Yes. 556 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,480 - How communal that felt? You could have the moment of like, "Oh God, the betting app challenge of the 557 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,040 day just dropped. You all in? Let's all do this together. Let's get everyone doing it." We accept, 558 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,280 "Oh no, we have to take a photo on top of a mountain. We only have a day to do that." 559 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:24,520 - Print a mountain on a piece of paper, right? - So you have your pot of money. All four of us 560 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:31,240 have put in, we'll just say $1,000 into this pot, right? If one of us fails, I have failed to, 561 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:35,400 we'll go back to the workout example, I failed to work out this week, the money doesn't just 562 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,120 disappear. It all gets put on some Vegas bet on black or something automatically. 563 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,880 And there's like a 50/50 chance that the money's going to double for everyone else 564 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,400 or just disappear completely. - Hey, you just get freaking casinos 565 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,400 on board, but it's self-reporting. I guess it doesn't really win or lose for them. They're 566 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,280 just like literally betting a thousand. They're either going to make a thousand dollars. 567 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560 - Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Is there something that this app could do that's a little 568 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,400 bit novel where you can't, like, I know it would be handy to have the, I've checked the box and I 569 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,080 promise for sure I did go skiing, like I said, I would or whatever, but is there something that we 570 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:24,920 could have the challenge be that is actually like, you know, go to a place or present to your phone's 571 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,280 camera a thing that's unique that you did or something to prove, like even people could vote 572 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,640 yes or no, this counts as they visited a historical tour, you know what I mean? 573 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,880 - Yeah, do a photo or video and crowdsource the validity. 574 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,800 - Right, does this count as a piece of art, like they said they wanted to make? 575 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:52,760 - That's true. Me and some friends were talking about, we need to go see the doctor. We're adult 576 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,880 men. We should be seeing the doctor regularly. - Your doctor has to sign it. 577 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,840 - You have to have a doctor's note. - You gotta get a selfie with the doctor. 578 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,120 - That's great. - This audit team is 579 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200 going to need a huge budget. - Right. 580 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,240 - I was more thinking along the lines of accountability buddies or someone, 581 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,800 you have one person who verifies yes or no, but you're right. They can't have skin in the game 582 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,600 'cause Russell's not gonna wanna lose all his money by saying no to me. 583 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,680 - What if you like, at any random point, you could hire an auditor, like to Alex's point, 584 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,640 like it's the micro transactions that make the money. It's like, you get a third party certifier 585 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:40,600 and it's just some other dude on the app just look like, some guy's just like, yeah, I love this app. 586 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:47,320 I just certified the most random bets ever. So I need the evidence. 587 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,800 - Somebody nearby needs you to- - Yeah. 588 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,800 - It's like cha-cha. - The app platform. 589 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760 - Yeah. - I love that. 590 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,400 For a few bucks, you can do, what is the mechanical Turk, like the Amazon small, 591 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,400 you get a few pennies to verify this at the other. If you wanna make a couple bucks on it 592 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,640 some evening, you can be the third party referee for some of the friends groups bet. 593 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,440 - Or just have another group actually verify yours. 594 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,120 - Yeah. Yeah, you check each other's, that's fun. 595 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,720 - 'Cause I have no, I don't give a shit if this other group fails or not, but- 596 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:25,080 - Does this count as pursuing their passion of wanting to do pottery? 597 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,880 That isn't pottery, you just played with Play-Doh, right? Yeah. 598 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,840 - Bought from Goodwill, uncheck. 599 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,560 All right, Alex, what is an idea you would love to do, but just haven't had time for? 600 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:48,760 - All right, so this is something that I feel like exists in part. I just want something 601 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:57,480 that brings us all together. I have the worst time keeping track of my life, right? So what 602 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:05,160 I would really like is, basically what I need is a personal assistant that's with me 24/7 603 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:12,760 that can be like, "Hey, you said that you wanna go to sleep by 10 o'clock every night. You're 604 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,200 still active, you're still playing video games, you're still," you know, whatever, right? I know 605 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,720 you can actually hire a personal assistant that will help manage your life, but there's no way 606 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:31,000 I could ever afford that. I've tried using Siri or whatever, right? But they don't have that hold. 607 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,400 I don't know, it even comes down to like little things, like I need something that can wake me up 608 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,160 in the morning that's not an alarm because that's gonna wake my wife up. To me, I need something on 609 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,600 my wrist that will like, it will ask me before I go to bed, like, "Hey, do you have to work tomorrow 610 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,960 because I'll change your alarm time," or something. I don't know, like this whole idea of like 611 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,280 something to help me manage my life, remind me of my projects that I'm wanting to get to, 612 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,440 all that kind of stuff. - Okay. 613 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,720 In 2012, 2013, Google pushed really hard for what they then called Google Now, 614 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:10,440 and they've pivoted away from that in favor of the assistant, and now they're pivoting away from the 615 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:18,440 assistant in favor of Bard. So this is several ADD Google iterations ago, but the idea was you would 616 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:26,680 land from a flight and it would say, "Hey, here's where your hotel is." You would arrive in a new 617 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,640 time zone and it would say, "Hey, we've updated all this stuff for you." It was the first really 618 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,000 foray into like putting information in front of you before you ask for it. Ambient computing, 619 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,920 they called it at the time. And I feel like we never really got there to like the promise of 620 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,680 computers that present me information without me asking. 621 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,840 - I feel like we're almost there with AI, right? - Some general AI. 622 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,440 - Why can't I take a chat GPT, train it on my personal life, feed it my calendar, 623 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:02,680 feed it my project list, give it my access to my smart devices so that it can yell at me? 624 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:09,800 - Yeah. Like holidays, dude, are the worst because it's like three-day holiday where you're just 625 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,240 like, "Oh, I guess we're taking this day off." It just out of nowhere throws me off. It's like, 626 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,520 "Okay, well, all the stores are closed. I got to set my alarm differently. Should I turn off my 627 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,120 Slack, like my email signature?" There's like 30 things that I should or could do that would make 628 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:32,280 me look really professional or like probably make my life a little bit more what I would like it to 629 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,320 be. But I don't want to do all like 30 little things for 10 minutes. I'd rather just like, 630 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:45,720 "Yo, personal assistant, what questions do you have to get my life in order?" I get it. Makes sense. 631 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:52,200 - I was at a guy's weekend and I missed a call from the trash company saying, "Hey, just so you 632 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:59,400 know, MLK Day is coming up and we're not celebrating it and we're doing the normal route." And sure 633 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,840 enough, I didn't get the call. And then my trash day is on a Tuesday, Monday night, like, "Oh, 634 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,280 it's a holiday. So everything's probably off by a day." And I didn't put everything out. And then 635 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,280 that next morning, I heard the sound and had that panic moment of running out in shorts and Crocs, 636 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,520 running to get a trash bin to the end of the street because, oh man. 637 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,200 - I've never done that before. 638 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:26,200 - They're coming after all. And I didn't know. Nowhere other than a missed call was that 639 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,280 anywhere presented to me. And businesses who have information like that, that I am a customer of, 640 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,480 need to be able to get that in front of me in a more, I don't know, instead of just calling me, 641 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,640 it should just be on a display in my house. There's so many displays in my house. 642 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:48,600 - I mean, even if you think about it, you have a device on your wrist that knows when you're 643 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:55,080 active and stuff. Why can't we detect when you've taken out the trash? So it can give it access to 644 00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:01,960 your voicemail and it can be like, "Oh, hey, they said that they're gonna be on normal schedule and 645 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,360 you haven't taken out the trash yet. I'm gonna remind you." 646 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,880 - Why can't the UPS truck that drove by that day not tell me? 647 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,560 - This was a Black Mirror episode, right? 648 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,280 - Oh, I'm sure it is. Yeah. 649 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,640 - They took like an imprint of your brain and then made it into its own AI that was tailored 650 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,320 to you 'cause it was you. And then it knew your preferences for how you liked your toast in the 651 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,760 morning or how you wanted to clean up your email inbox or whatever. And the whole dystopian, 652 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,560 it was trapped and it was you trapped in a computer helping yourself through stuff. But 653 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,080 the concept of it is awesome. 654 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,000 - So cool. So you're saying you would indeed enslave a digital version of yourself 655 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600 to be your own assistant? 656 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,640 - Oh yeah. Yeah. 657 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,640 - 100%, no thought. 658 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,160 - Oh my God. 659 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:53,400 - If it would actually get me to get stuff done, that's my biggest thing is I always 660 00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:00,040 forget the things that I need to do, no matter how I try to put it on a calendar or... 661 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,960 - OpenAI and Chachibitty caught Google on their back foot and their whole counter-argument 662 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:11,480 to OpenAI is, "Hey, we're gonna be able to take all the stuff that we know about you and put it 663 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,440 in there." So there's a chance that Google's working toward this vision of I go to Bard and I 664 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:24,920 say, "Hey, tell me the last four family members that emailed me and give me some starter points 665 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,880 as to what I should ask them about for how their day is going," or whatever. And it's looking 666 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,280 through your email and your calendar and, "Oh, I know in your contacts you have their birthdays, 667 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,840 this, their birthdays coming up," all the stuff that Google knows about you, 668 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,920 but thrown into a LLM blender. 669 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:51,000 - That already happens with companies at CRMs. It's just the personal CRM plus, right? Why not 670 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,000 just do that? Just take... I mean, there are thousands of CRMs all thinking about all these 671 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:03,880 things, but not to maybe the personal version, right? It's always company-centric. It's never 672 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,960 like me-centric. That makes sense? There should be a personal. 673 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,240 - It's gonna be wild. 674 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:15,400 - Yeah. Like, "Hey, you probably should send a letter to this person." Or like, "Hey, 675 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,160 you haven't talked to this person in a long time and you talk to them all the time. 676 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:26,040 Is there a reason why? No. Okay, we're gonna send you this text. How's that sound? Okay." 677 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040 (laughter) 678 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,480 - That's a great idea. 679 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,520 - Their CRM is taking in all of their incoming messages and filtering them down to a nice 680 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,360 little summary for you. And soon the internet is just bots talking to bots and summarizing 681 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,160 and expanding. 682 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:47,240 - But how great would it be if you didn't have to open your email? Your personal assistant could 683 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:54,040 say, "Hey, you got 27 emails. Only three of them actually have any content in them. Here's what 684 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,920 they are." Right? 685 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,720 - The dream. 686 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:59,400 - Like a really involved mother. Like, "Oh, you- 687 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,360 - Pretty much, yeah. 688 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,600 - "You haven't talked to your best friend in a while. I'm gonna just- Here, give me your phone. 689 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,480 I'll send them a text message and we'll set up a play date. I mean, you guys can go hang out." 690 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,360 Right? Like- 691 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,960 - A play date? 692 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,520 - Just- 693 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,800 - A play date? 694 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,760 - Yeah, this is Wally. 695 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,040 - "You told me you were going to clean your room. Have you done that yet?" 696 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,800 - "Thanks, mom. You're right." 697 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,880 - "But seriously, I need that." 698 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,040 - There's something about- I wonder if this is just four dudes in a room talking about- 699 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,400 - "I was just gonna say that." 700 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:33,240 "I think the problem is our lack of female representation on the show." 701 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:37,480 - I'll be honest. When has that ever been a problem in history? 702 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,800 - I talk about this all the time. Like, my wife is my social assist- She's my social manager. So, 703 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,760 literally, every social event that I coordinate with friends, I have to go through my social 704 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,400 assistant. Because there's so many calendar events going on. I'm like, "I can't overbook. 705 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,400 I can't overbook." Just a little bit of that so that I don't have to- 706 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,280 - How does she manage it all? 707 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,720 - That's a great- It's a two X chromosomes. 708 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:08,200 - Is it in her head? Does she put it into a calendar somewhere or notes or something? 709 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:15,080 - She started putting it into a calendar for me because literally, she can handle- 710 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,240 She knows all the things, but she's like, "Russell's not gonna do this unless I put it 711 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:23,960 in his Google Calendar so that it shows up throughout his day." So, literally, I'll have 712 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,600 an event next week and I'm like, "Oh, Carrie's getting a massage at four o'clock. I should 713 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,000 probably be home." I'm like, "I guess it's happening." I'm out of office that week and 714 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,920 yeah, it's literally- - Wow. 715 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:44,280 - I have- I guess, Alex, I already have one. I really- 716 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,160 - Well, see- - Yeah. 717 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,760 - See, that's the thing is I can't ask my wife to be this for me, right? 718 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680 - No. - I can't put this on her. 719 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,920 - We were just talking about how it's an overbearing mother. 720 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,840 - I know. - That's what our wives all 721 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,320 want to be compared to. - It makes me second guess myself. 722 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:06,440 Maybe I'm putting too much on my non-virtual assistants. I need to be helping her in a 723 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,920 digital way. I can solve this with technology. Is what you're saying, Alex? Is that this? 724 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,640 - I would hope so. I mean, I feel like we've got to be close. The reason why I think I 725 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:23,320 struggle with this particularly is my ADHD. I've looked into ADHD assistants and stuff 726 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:29,080 and there's people working on them. The people that really need this are the people with ADHD 727 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,760 and so they're the ones that have this idea to build this thing and then they never get 728 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,200 around to finishing it. That's my problem too, right? I never finish anything because- 729 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:45,480 - Preach your brother. - I mean, I've even tried, they have apps 730 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:52,440 for kids that are routine builders, right? I've literally tried this app that is meant 731 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,400 for children that goes through and it's like, "You have five minutes to brush your teeth 732 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:03,240 and if you don't finish it, you have to either swipe it or away to do it later or it will 733 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:07,640 only let you do a couple things. You can't just swipe your whole thing away." Then every 734 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,920 time you go beyond your time, it automatically adjusts the rest of your schedule for the 735 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,040 morning or whatever. - It's pesting you. 736 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,520 - Whoa. - But the problem is I don't have a routine. 737 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,320 I'm not a kid that goes to school at a certain time every day and building routines is a 738 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,640 really hard thing for people who have ADHD to handle, right? 739 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:33,560 - Dude, I'm going to add onto this, Alex, in a weird way, but I don't know if every 740 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:40,120 dude in this podcast or in general has this morning routine element where you sit on the 741 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:46,680 porcelain throne for just a good couple minutes. What if it knew? 742 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,720 And it asks you- - What? 743 00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,120 - It asks you- - My bidet has a camera, 744 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,560 is that what you're saying? - No, it asks you five questions. 745 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,560 Like, "Oh, we noticed that you're sitting on the toilet. Would you like to answer 746 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,720 some five questions about your week before-" - What's talking to you right now? 747 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,880 What is the thing that speaks? Is it the toilet? I got to know. 748 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:18,360 - I mean, okay, let's say for you hardware guys, we put a Bluetooth device in the toilet. So as 749 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,960 soon as you connect to Bluetooth to the toilet, it immediately asks you five questions about, 750 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,920 "Did you know it's Martin Luther King Day next Monday? Would you like to change your count?" 751 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:35,640 Like, it just asks you five quick questions, not intrusive, not trying to ruin your experience here, 752 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,360 but- - No, man, 753 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,440 my toilet is my private time. - The virtual assistant needs to take 754 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:48,120 a moment of time that you definitely have, but choose to take on your own. And I think that best 755 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,160 time is when you're sitting, like right when you sit down, it asks you three or four questions 756 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,600 about your week. - Like what? 757 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,280 - Maybe once a week, not every time. - What information does it need? 758 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,920 What does it ask? - Just whatever information 759 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,040 it's missing at that time. - Yes. 760 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,360 - Like what? - It can see on your calendar that you've got 761 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:12,520 all day event on Thursday and Friday. So it says, "Do you want me to change your alarm so that you're 762 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,720 not waking up at 5 a.m. while you're gone?" - A couple of quick questions to learn your 763 00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:24,840 habits so that it can do better in the future. - Yes, one porcelain thrown time at a time. 764 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,880 Small little props, like not trying to be intrusive, but- 765 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,440 - Three minutes every day at the same time. - Like the Google Maps ones. "Hey, 766 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,720 where is the entrance to this place?" - It can just pop up when it notices 767 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,200 some idle activity and say, "Hey, you got a minute?" 768 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600 - Yeah. - Can I ask you a few questions? 769 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,280 - "Do you have plans this weekend or are you going to be sitting at home by yourself?" 770 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:51,240 - It just judges you for three minutes a day. - You haven't talked to that person in a while. 771 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,200 - That's it. Try calling your mother. 772 00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:01,160 - Maybe that's the app. It's paid for by mothers. It just encourages to call your family 773 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200 every weekend. - Oh, yeah. Yeah. 774 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,520 - There you go. - If you're listening to this podcast, 775 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,600 you should probably call your mother right now or just highly recommend it. 776 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,920 - I mean, it is going to be Mother's Day pretty soon here, right? So- 777 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,360 - That's right. - That's the kind of public service 778 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,360 that this podcast performs for you. Don't forget to get something for your mom for Mother's Day. 779 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,200 - Dude, but what if you set this goal in your app? Like, "Hey, I have some goals this year," 780 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,720 or like right now, I'll type into my app and then it would just be like, "You might have some free 781 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:41,960 time this weekend," or, "Hey, Thursday nights, you seem to be bored or you don't have anything. 782 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,280 Maybe we'll drop a hint like, "Draw." - Yeah. 783 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,120 - Somebody that would, yeah. - Yeah. 784 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,240 - "We're going to wake you up early tomorrow, all right? Let's get you going." Something like that. 785 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,800 Little encouragements. - You can go to the gym tomorrow. Yeah. 786 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:03,880 - "You went to bed early, we're going to wake you up early." You can always hit snooze or whatever. 787 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:10,040 - Or like, "Hey, you haven't gotten a full eight hours all week, so I'm going to let you sleep in." 788 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,160 - Whoa, that's a good one. - Me and Leo are like, "That's..." 789 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,160 - Yeah, you would say that. - Yeah. 790 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,080 - Yeah, spoken like a true no kid household. - Wow, yeah. 791 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:25,880 - "Hey, I have a dog that will wake us up at like 7 a.m. if we don't get up and let her out to give 792 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:32,040 her breakfast." So she stomps in her crate. - I bet OpenAI comes out with one of this. 793 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,000 You know, like, there's a... - Oh, I know. I'm sure we're like... 794 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,840 We got to be like within a couple years of the personal assistant that just... 795 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,920 - Yeah. It seems like where they're headed with the MyGPT's infrastructure, you could have one 796 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,200 that's trained specifically on... You just Hoover up all of your email, all of your calendar, 797 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,360 all of that stuff. - I mean, Microsoft is kind of doing 798 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,800 that at a company level, aren't they? With Copilot. So... 799 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,160 - Yeah. - Yeah, I bet. 800 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,800 - Just got an ad on my Microsoft PC. - It's pretty on-device still. 801 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,000 - Like, Copilot. Like, this is an ad-free experience, I thought. 802 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,720 - Oh, no. - Nope. Windows gives ads now. 803 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,760 Like, just Windows computer. - Did you not see Candy Crush? 804 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:21,960 And the Bing search area and stuff? Oh, yeah. Microsoft... Windows has been compromised. 805 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:28,600 - My favorite thing is today I downloaded Chrome from Edge. And it's like, "Are you sure?" 806 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,440 - "What are you doing? Don't do that." - "You don't need another browser." 807 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,480 - Edge really... - Nothing is thirstier than 808 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,880 Microsoft watching you download a different browser. 809 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,280 - Isn't that just, like, embarrassing? Like, it's almost like... 810 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:46,840 We know you're on Chrome. We know what our browser is for. It's to download Chrome. But, like, 811 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,200 can you just... We're gonna try. - It's like... It was like, 812 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,040 Edge is based on the same thing as Chrome. Plus, you get the benefit of... 813 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,120 - But with the added trust of Microsoft. - The added trust. 814 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,960 - There's a... That whole... It says, yeah... - Oh, yeah. 815 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:04,760 - "Microsoft Edge is built on the same technology as Chrome, but with the added trust of Microsoft." 816 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,240 And the Linux memes subreddits had a field day with that wording here. 817 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,560 - What? Wow. - Thanks so much for listening. 818 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,840 We hope you enjoyed yourself. And thank you, Alex, for being here. This was a great time. 819 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,080 - Yeah, it was great. Thanks. - Our website is Spitball.show. 820 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:26,120 There you can find all of our stuff, our YouTube channel, social media. Email us any feedback, 821 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:31,160 comments, ideas, things that this sparked in your own head. 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