1 00:00:02,580 --> 00:00:06,040 - I'm Scott. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:06,960 - I'm Russell. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,800 - And I'm Leo. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,620 This is Spitball. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Welcome to Spitball, 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:21,320 where three technotacticians and a guest, that's us, 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,760 empty our heads of all the startup and tech product ideas 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,900 that we have stuck up in there, 9 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:26,680 so you can all have them for free. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,200 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,800 And this week, I brought our guest. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,600 This week, we're having a very special guest, 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,080 because he's not just a friend of ours 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,720 that we've baited into joining us on the show. 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,800 This week, we're welcoming Chase, Chase Roberts, 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,720 author and Arduino enthusiast, 17 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,040 computer scientist, former app developer, 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,600 and successful twice Kickstarter champion. 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,160 Chase, welcome to Spitball. 20 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,080 - Thank you, thank you so much. 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,080 It's fun to be here. 22 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,740 - Chase is the author of "Computer Engineering for Babies." 23 00:00:55,740 --> 00:00:58,040 Your website again, what is that? 24 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,120 - Computerengineeringforbabies.com. 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,280 - Perfect, you just came out with a sequel, right? 26 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,240 - Yeah, so, yeah, just this last, 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 well, I guess it's been a few months now, 28 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,520 "Computer Engineering for Big Babies." 29 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,080 So that's the sequel book. 30 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,960 I'm thinking about doing a third book. 31 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,800 - A secret project. 32 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,320 - A third, I'm thinking about doing 33 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:20,440 a third computer engineering book. 34 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,280 - Sweet. 35 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,360 - But I'm not sure what that's gonna look like yet. 36 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,200 But I, and I'm working on another book 37 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,480 that's not computer engineering 38 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,680 that I'm really excited about. 39 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,880 But yeah, I'm not ready to go public with it quite yet. 40 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,720 - I get that. 41 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,520 - I just placed an order for your first two books 42 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,000 like 40 seconds ago. 43 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,840 - Nice. 44 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,960 - And my two and four year old absolutely adore 45 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,440 the buttons and switches and lights, 46 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,560 and we have a good time with it. 47 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,320 It's a successful product in our household. 48 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:47,160 - Great gifts. 49 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,980 - Great gifts. 50 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:48,820 - I'm glad you're liking it. 51 00:01:48,820 --> 00:01:50,200 - We're at the age where a lot of our friends 52 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,440 have all gotten married now and the babies are starting, 53 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,280 and it's a perfect little like, hey, you're a nerd. 54 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Your kid will love this and you will too. 55 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,400 - It's wonderful. 56 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,920 All right, as we do always, our show starts off with a game. 57 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,300 And this week we're gonna be returning to a classic. 58 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,000 This is in honor of your successful Kickstarters. 59 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,320 We're gonna be playing Wisdom of the Crowd Fund. 60 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,000 This is where I'm going to name a successful, 61 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,080 all of these are successful, 62 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,040 Kickstarter or Indiegogo campaign. 63 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,460 You just have to tell me if it actually succeeded 64 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:19,480 all the way through to fulfilling the orders 65 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,720 or if people backed it and then got nothing. 66 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 And as always, we start with our guest, Chase. 67 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,160 I gotta tell you about this wonderful Kickstarter. 68 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,360 This is from a while back here. 69 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,440 Let me look up the date. 70 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Chase, this is a project from 2014. 71 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,640 So cast your mind back long before the dark times. 72 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:37,480 - Oh man. 73 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,800 - I gotta tell you about the Pancake Pirate Griddle. 74 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,480 This is a cast iron project where you can back 75 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,760 and you'll get a little set of three pancake griddles 76 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,080 that have a skull and crossbones in them. 77 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,320 It successfully backed with 200 backers and $18,000. 78 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,680 But did their backers actually get their griddles? 79 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,680 - I'm gonna say no. 80 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,520 - They did. 81 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 It went all the way through. 82 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 It was like a weird one-time limited run thing in Illinois, 83 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,400 somewhere in Chicago. 84 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,400 This guy had a dream. 85 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,240 - Oh wow. 86 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,320 I don't know how much it costs to make a griddle, 87 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,560 but 18,000 doesn't seem like enough. 88 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,400 - Right? 89 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,220 I would think so too. 90 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:16,920 He met his goal and it was all successful. 91 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:20,820 But yeah, it's a giant waffle iron looking cast iron thing 92 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:21,920 that you got in the mail. 93 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:22,760 - Dang. 94 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,240 - It's a lost money, that's for sure. 95 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,240 (laughing) 96 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,320 - Yeah, wouldn't recommend any of these projects, 97 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,680 especially, yeah. 98 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,280 - Money was worth more back then. 99 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,520 (laughing) 100 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,200 - So true though. 101 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,720 - I mean, after the inflation. 102 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,560 - Scott. 103 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,380 - Hey, bae. 104 00:03:39,380 --> 00:03:41,080 - I gotta tell you about the Hand Free. 105 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 This is not hands free, H-A-N-F-R-E-E. 106 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 This is in 2011, right after the iPad came out. 107 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,200 And it is the hands free iPad accessory. 108 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Imagine a floor standing floor lamp, 109 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,600 but with like a long arm and hook. 110 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,560 The iPad attaches to it. 111 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,800 You can lay in bed and use the iPad 112 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 above your head like WALL-E. 113 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,760 It had 440 backers that pledged $35,000. 114 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,640 But, did that ship? 115 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,440 - Yes, I absolutely think this is shipped. 116 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,280 - It did. 117 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,120 (laughing) 118 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:10,940 - No. 119 00:04:10,940 --> 00:04:12,520 - It seems so easy, right? 120 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 It's just a big old metal arm. 121 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,280 - Everything on Kickstarter, this seems very straightforward. 122 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:19,640 And if you have the backers, like, 123 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,480 yeah, this should have shipped. 124 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,300 - What do you think? 125 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:22,140 - What went wrong? 126 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:22,980 - I don't know, man. 127 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:23,920 - Was it too top heavy? 128 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,000 That sounds like it might be too top heavy. 129 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 - It hit several people in the face, falling over. 130 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,480 - I don't know if it was mass production 131 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,400 or if they just didn't prototype well enough. 132 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,800 But, you know, never came through. 133 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Russell, I'm here to tell you about Crystal Bacon. 134 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Yes, that's right, Crystal Bacon. 135 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 This is a project from 2013. 136 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,880 49 backers pledged $2,000, and that was enough. 137 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,400 $2,700. 138 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,280 So, Crystal Bacon is, of course, bacon made of acrylic. 139 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:54,280 This person CNC'd a necklace or a earrings or an ornament, 140 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,440 or, of course, you could get all three. 141 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,280 - Wow. 142 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,560 - Yeah, it looks like glass bacon. 143 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,480 It succeeded, but did it ship? 144 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,520 - Wait, I'm sorry, is this actual bacon? 145 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Or is this just something they CNC'd to look like bacon? 146 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,920 - Yeah, it's that. 147 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,200 - Okay. 148 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,040 - I don't know why, but. 149 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,960 - I thought all the ideas on our show were bad, 150 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,520 but I have a feeling that this one got funded. 151 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,840 - It did get funded, but did it ship? 152 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:26,560 - This shipped, for sure. 153 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Somebody loves bacon enough. 154 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,080 - That's exactly right. 155 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,360 - There's somebody that loves bacon that much. 156 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,040 - There was a whole internet meme thing around bacon 157 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,320 in around 2013, feels right. 158 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,200 He, of course, successfully went on to go 159 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,360 and create the Booze Bolt, 160 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,480 which was a big, giant bolt that was a shot glass. 161 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,480 - Of course. 162 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,400 - I don't know why. 163 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,840 - I mean, when you make money on bacon. 164 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,240 - That's the obvious next step in your career. 165 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,800 - Yeah, the next step. 166 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,520 - Chase, I gotta tell you about the ostrich pillow. 167 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Have you heard of the ostrich pillow? 168 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,600 - No. 169 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,440 - It's like moderately famous, 170 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,160 so I wanted to make sure that, okay, great. 171 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,720 It's a full, fluffy pillowcase looking thing 172 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,160 that's kind of bulbous, and it has three holes in it. 173 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,920 One for your head, so it goes completely over your head, 174 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,880 and two for your arms, so you can sleep heads down 175 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,720 on a desk. 176 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,680 - I have seen this. 177 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,920 - Yeah, so this was a thing that was like 178 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,920 a big laughing stock, and they got $195,000 179 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,280 from about two grand backers, but did it actually ship? 180 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,240 - I feel like I've, I don't know if I've seen these 181 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,240 in real life, but I feel like I've seen these in magazines. 182 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,440 - Is it the knockoff? 183 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960 - So if they didn't ship it, somebody else stole the idea 184 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,080 and did ship it. 185 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,480 I'm gonna say they shipped it. 186 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,380 - They shipped it, they did, and they had like 187 00:06:41,380 --> 00:06:43,800 six other ones afterward that were for other 188 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,000 similar looking products. 189 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,760 - Studio Banana, of course, we all love Studio Banana, 190 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,760 and their famous ostrich pillow. 191 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,660 Well done, Jason. 192 00:06:50,660 --> 00:06:52,640 (laughing) 193 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,120 - That is also a statement. 194 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,000 (laughing) 195 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,040 You put ideas can do really well on Kickstarter. 196 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,720 - You'd think, yeah. 197 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,160 - Yeah. 198 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,240 - It seems like a crapshoot whether or not something 199 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,880 grabs onto the public imagination. 200 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Scott, I gotta tell you about the Amabrush. 201 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,280 This is the 10 second toothbrush, which is a product 202 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,920 that looks like a mouth guard, but it's got like 203 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,640 automated bristles all around the top and bottom 204 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 that you just stick in and let it do its thing. 205 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,920 It's battery powered. 206 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,520 It got 26,000, 27,000 backers, 207 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,280 three million euros in 2019. 208 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,800 But did it actually ship? 209 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,600 - I want this to ship, shipped so bad. 210 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,920 I'm gonna say yes, it shipped. 211 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,900 - The last update was from the bankruptcy proceedings 212 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:40,720 at this link, they did not ship. 213 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,920 (laughing) 214 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Which is hilarious, 'cause there's a big 215 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 order now button right at the top of the Kickstarter. 216 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,000 (laughing) 217 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,840 But you cannot purchase it. 218 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,640 - Try it, see what happens. 219 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,280 - Russell, another product that I'm hoping 220 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,880 you haven't seen. 221 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,720 - Yeah. 222 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,720 - This one had a late night appearance 223 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,880 during the Kickstarter on like Tonight Show or something. 224 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,960 This is the Licki Brush, all capitals, L-I-C-K-I Brush. 225 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,040 This is a mouthpiece that goes in your mouth 226 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,680 like a mouth guard with an artificial bristled tongue 227 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,080 so you can groom your cat. 228 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,720 - No. 229 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,460 Oh, oh no. 230 00:08:12,460 --> 00:08:15,560 - Yeah, it's like a brush thing that you put 231 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,040 and then you can just sort of go at it. 232 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,040 But it got 2,000 backers, $52,000 in 2018. 233 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,120 But did it actually ship? 234 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,520 - I hope for everyone on this planet that it never shipped. 235 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,680 - It totally shipped, it's a real thing. 236 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,520 (laughing) 237 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,720 - Oh no, how many people backed it? 238 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,480 How many people backed it? 239 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,320 2,000 people? 240 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,920 - 2,022 people. 241 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,120 - So there are 2,000 people licking their cats. 242 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:42,960 - At least. 243 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,960 - Guys, no, it made it on Shark Tank. 244 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,680 I'm just, look, click this link. 245 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:47,520 This thing looks insane. 246 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,360 - I don't want to, I don't want to. 247 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,180 (laughing) 248 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:51,280 I don't want to know it exists. 249 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,520 - Yeah, the byline says, 250 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,800 have you ever wanted to lick your cat? 251 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,700 Now you can without the fur balls. 252 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:57,440 You know, that thing everyone wants to do. 253 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,600 (laughing) 254 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,440 Yep. 255 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,280 - Oh my gosh. 256 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,720 - I think that means that the score's one all, 257 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,560 is that right? 258 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:04,380 - I think so. 259 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:05,680 - All right, last time through. 260 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,600 Chase, I gotta tell you about the Pop Charging Station. 261 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Kind of looks like a white trash can Mac Pro 262 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,160 a little bit, like a long cylinder 263 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,280 that sits on a desk or on a table. 264 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 And there's legs that hold it up a little bit 265 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,240 and a bunch of retractable charging cables 266 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,660 that come out from the underside of it. 267 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:24,400 You plug in your phone, your iPad, whatever, 268 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,220 and then when you're done, 269 00:09:25,220 --> 00:09:27,280 they retract back into a little cylinder. 270 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 It got 1,000 backers on the dot 271 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,320 and raised about $140,000 in 2013. 272 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,800 So early on in iPad life cycle, 273 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,680 like six years after the iPhone launch, 274 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,460 but did it ship? 275 00:09:39,460 --> 00:09:40,300 - What's it called? 276 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:42,500 - The Pop, P-O-P, all capitals. 277 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:45,340 The Pop, the intersection of charging and design. 278 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:46,380 - These are hard. 279 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:48,660 - I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yeah. 280 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:49,620 I'm gonna say it shipped. 281 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:51,500 - No sir, that was another failure. 282 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:53,420 - Oh, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 283 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:56,300 As soon as I said it, I really thought it was wrong. 284 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:58,100 - It didn't, you'd think 140,000 would be enough 285 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:01,380 to like take some cables and a spool 286 00:10:01,380 --> 00:10:04,060 and shove them in a plastic box, but nope. 287 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:07,220 - I mean, they got tape measures have been around forever. 288 00:10:07,220 --> 00:10:10,060 Like just repurpose that, I don't know. 289 00:10:10,060 --> 00:10:10,900 - That's right. 290 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:11,720 - I'm not an engineer. 291 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,460 Tape a USB to a tape measure and just let it go. 292 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:17,620 I could have had 150,000 sales. 293 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:19,100 - There's a study somewhere that's like 294 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:21,220 the more a Kickstarter project makes, 295 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:23,420 the more unlikely it is that it's going to actually ship. 296 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:24,940 - Robert's Law, as we call it now. 297 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:26,540 - I think people just get excited about it. 298 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:27,980 - You've coined it. 299 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:29,780 - Robert's Law. 300 00:10:29,780 --> 00:10:30,660 - Chase Robert, is it him? 301 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:32,860 - No, I did not make this up. 302 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:35,820 Somebody else has written about this, 303 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:37,380 but I'm pretty sure it's true. 304 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:40,220 Scott, I got to tell you about the Krypteks, 305 00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:45,220 C-R-Y-P-T-E-K-S, Krypteks USB. 306 00:10:45,220 --> 00:10:47,900 This is a flash drive that has some hardware encryption. 307 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:49,140 So like a fingerprint scanner on it 308 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:50,980 that encrypts all of your stuff on it. 309 00:10:50,980 --> 00:10:53,020 And it slides into a cylinder 310 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:55,020 that's got a combination lock along it. 311 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:58,060 It's the most secure, world-class, 312 00:10:58,060 --> 00:11:02,100 super secure digital stash for all of your files. 313 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:05,620 It got 990 backers, so quite a bit in 2014 314 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:09,460 and almost $200,000, but did it ship? 315 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:10,860 - This is another one that seems like, 316 00:11:10,860 --> 00:11:13,420 yeah, this seems it could be doable. 317 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:15,020 Biometrics, yeah, I think it shipped. 318 00:11:15,020 --> 00:11:15,860 - No, sir. 319 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:16,700 - Not even close. 320 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:17,540 - God damn it. 321 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:19,380 - They're from Michigan like us, 322 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:22,380 but no, unfortunately it was one of those things, right? 323 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:23,660 Don't even know if they had a prototype. 324 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:26,180 There's a lot of CGI renders on this thing. 325 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:29,140 - That's a bummer. 326 00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:31,500 - Of course, Russell, the last one. 327 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,020 Lionel Richie's head. 328 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:38,020 So for a festival in England in 2013, 329 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:41,500 211 backers raised about eight grand for, 330 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:44,340 let me read the quote for sure here. 331 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:46,300 "Lionel Richie's head is in the official lineup 332 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:48,580 "for Bestival, a four-day weekend music festival 333 00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:50,580 "held in Wright, England." 334 00:11:50,580 --> 00:11:51,900 What they wanted to do was, 335 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:53,540 depending on how many backers they got, 336 00:11:53,540 --> 00:11:55,120 get at least three meters, 337 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,920 maybe as tall as six or more meters tall, 338 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,540 paper mache and/or other material of Lionel Richie. 339 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:03,380 And it's an art piece. 340 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:06,100 You could go in it, you could look at it, 341 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:07,800 you could take a picture of it. 342 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,220 A good-looking Lionel Richie head 343 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:10,700 at a respectable height of three meters 344 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:13,540 will cost us around 5,000 euros. 345 00:12:13,540 --> 00:12:15,860 So it'll need some internal turbines 346 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:18,300 to help keep his head up and sandbags to keep it down 347 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:19,300 and things like that. 348 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:21,860 But the more that they can raise, the better. 349 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:25,300 So they were successful and they raised about eight grand. 350 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:27,020 Did they hold up their end of the bargain? 351 00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:30,100 Was there a Lionel Richie head at Bestival 2013? 352 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:31,260 - I hope so. 353 00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:33,860 This one seems like it needed to happen. 354 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:36,460 And I feel like it didn't, the money didn't matter. 355 00:12:36,460 --> 00:12:40,300 It just, it was gonna happen one way or another. 356 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:41,580 - I have the best news for you. 357 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:42,780 It indeed did happen. 358 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:44,580 It ended up being five meters, 359 00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:46,420 which is about 16 feet tall. 360 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:47,260 - See? 361 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:52,160 - So you too can see the giant ass Lionel Richie. 362 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,580 Don't know why. - A 16 foot tall. 363 00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:57,340 Oh my gosh. 364 00:12:57,340 --> 00:12:58,540 This makes me happy. 365 00:12:58,540 --> 00:13:00,820 - It's kind of like, remember the potato salad one 366 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:01,660 where a guy was like, 367 00:13:01,660 --> 00:13:03,660 "Kickstarter me eating potato salad." 368 00:13:03,660 --> 00:13:04,500 Look at this. 369 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:06,140 Isn't that haunting? 370 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:08,220 - Oh my gosh. 371 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:09,820 - I probably would have backed that. 372 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:10,660 - You too could. 373 00:13:10,660 --> 00:13:13,580 (laughing) 374 00:13:13,580 --> 00:13:15,020 - Whoa. 375 00:13:15,020 --> 00:13:16,340 - That's an artist render. 376 00:13:16,340 --> 00:13:18,580 (laughing) 377 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:21,460 - I love the windows background. 378 00:13:21,460 --> 00:13:22,820 - No, it was just for a music festival. 379 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:23,900 It's gone now. 380 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:25,620 Well, actually I don't know where it ended up. 381 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,860 The Kickstarter page itself only shows like, 382 00:13:27,860 --> 00:13:29,940 here's what it could be. 383 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:31,060 I had to look up news articles 384 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:32,660 to see if they ever held up. 385 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:35,460 - I cannot believe somebody's licking their cats right now. 386 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:36,460 Like I still, 387 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:37,300 (laughing) 388 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:41,500 I can't stop thinking about this. 389 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:42,660 Lick E. 390 00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:44,620 - I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news there. 391 00:13:44,620 --> 00:13:46,300 - The Kickstarter page has multiple, 392 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:48,700 like you could buy three and get a discount. 393 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,740 - Yeah, I want three of these. 394 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:53,700 They're out of stock on Amazon, guys. 395 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,340 There are 313 ratings. 396 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:59,080 This is a mistake. 397 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,140 This is an abomination. 398 00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:00,980 I don't know. 399 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:02,420 - Somewhere Jordan Peele's writing down 400 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:03,820 for his next horror movie script, 401 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:06,700 a family of three are licking their cat 402 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:08,180 when they turn the corner. 403 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:09,300 What a jump scare. 404 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:10,540 (laughing) 405 00:14:10,540 --> 00:14:13,180 - Oh my gosh. 406 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:14,340 - All right, Russell. 407 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:15,500 You are up first this week. 408 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:16,340 What do you got for us? 409 00:14:16,340 --> 00:14:17,160 - All right. 410 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,140 I think this one I've told a lot of people about 411 00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:20,260 'cause I almost launched it, 412 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:22,140 but I just, I'm not going to anymore. 413 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:22,980 - All right. 414 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:23,820 - All right, guys. 415 00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:25,380 So my idea this week, 416 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:27,580 I'm currently working on my basement, 417 00:14:27,580 --> 00:14:29,560 kinda sorta I had to hire somebody out 418 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,440 because the amount of work isn't as bad 419 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,440 as the amount of YouTubing and like all I have to do. 420 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,840 I think the amount of content on the internet 421 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,780 has killed the DIY 'cause I'm looking at 422 00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:46,480 this old house videos from 15 years ago 423 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,280 to some dude that just installed this thing a year ago 424 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,400 and I'm trying to figure out, 425 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 all right, who do I trust for my DIY project, right? 426 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,000 All I wanna do is talk to some retired professional 427 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,080 that I need a hotline, right? 428 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,240 So my idea is the DIY hotline 429 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,560 and all you do is called old retire guys or gals 430 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,280 that are kind of out of work 431 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,540 because they've done the manual labor, 432 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,840 but they have all the knowledge, right? 433 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,420 You call them up, you ask for advice, 434 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:22,960 you do a FaceTime call or a Webex call 435 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,080 if they still use that or whatever 436 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,520 and basically just walk through the house 437 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320 and just be like, hey, I'm trying to fix this. 438 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Like what should I do here, right? 439 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,620 Cut through all the YouTube BS, skip all that. 440 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:39,520 Like I don't need an online course thing, 441 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,920 I just need to talk to somebody 442 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 to make me feel better about my DIY decision. 443 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,720 I think there's a little bit of therapy there 444 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,840 that comes with having an old wise person telling you this. 445 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,060 And yeah, simply put, that's the model. 446 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:56,200 You can charge per or honestly, 447 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,780 I think this is where we win, 448 00:15:57,780 --> 00:16:02,100 is it's 100% free to call these folks, okay? 449 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:03,080 Yeah. - Whoa. 450 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,240 - And all the materials you need, 451 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,180 so they're recommending and trying to sell you on, 452 00:16:09,180 --> 00:16:10,680 oh yeah, you need this pipe fitting, 453 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,520 you need these things. 454 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,720 They only make a cut on all the products. 455 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,920 - Sure. (laughs) 456 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,500 - So you make as much calls, 457 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,680 you answer as many calls as possible 458 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,720 and you make money on recommendations 459 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,640 of the products you buy. 460 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 You give them discounts to Menards, 461 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 you know the 11% that you get back. 462 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Menards, they cut that back 463 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,560 to the person doing the advising, right? 464 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,320 - Home Depot or Lowe's or whatever, yeah. 465 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,960 - Yeah, so you do like, 466 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,240 you increase your inbound calls 467 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,800 by making it free to call 468 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,140 and you just make all the money on the buying behavior 469 00:16:41,140 --> 00:16:43,240 that comes out of those calls. 470 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,320 So now, the more active you are, 471 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,660 the more you upsell, 472 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:49,280 you turn them a little bit into salespeople, 473 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,840 but also like, I don't know, 474 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,360 you could also do the Uber bottle, right? 475 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,480 You could say, all right, for 15 bucks, 476 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,120 I don't know, it sounds like a hotline. 477 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,960 When I get to hotlines-- 478 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,800 - Yeah, I was gonna say, dude, 479 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 I kinda wanna make this into a hotline, 480 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,760 like a phone sex hotline. 481 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,600 - That's what I was trying to avoid. 482 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,000 - Where you are charged by the minute on there 483 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,200 and you get the guy who knows absolutely everything 484 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,680 about what you are trying to do, 485 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,320 but every minute you're talking to him, 486 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,640 like, you're gonna pay for that going forward. 487 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,120 - Yeah, I don't wanna buy a product 488 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:16,480 where the guy's incentive is to upsell me 489 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,040 on the most expensive thing. 490 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,440 - Yeah, it's true. 491 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,280 There's a balance. 492 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,200 - Yeah, I know, I've already come to terms, 493 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,000 I have to make four trips to Home Depot 494 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,840 when I'm trying to just do it in one. 495 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,040 - I know, right? 496 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,800 - Well, the other issue is that you're gonna have 497 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 all these slow talkers that get on 498 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,600 that are just trying to run up the meter. 499 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,040 - It's like a lawyer when they're billable. 500 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,640 You can hear them slow down. 501 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,440 - I was listening to NPR and they said, 502 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,160 today's episode is brought to you, it was a podcast, 503 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,760 today's episode is brought to you by, 504 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,400 I forget which, it was one of those handyman, 505 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,080 like rent something, local carpenter, 506 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,520 come to your house sort of service, 507 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,840 and they said, I had never heard this before, 508 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840 even though I've heard the ad many times, 509 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,540 your first visit or whatever is free, 510 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:58,840 or your first video call. 511 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,840 And I remember thinking like, oh man, 512 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,400 like live video call with exactly what you're pitching 513 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,600 would be amazing, but I've never followed through 514 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,160 to see how does that even work, you know? 515 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,400 But if you could make it free somehow, that's really cool. 516 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,880 - A lead gen? 517 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,320 - Like somehow guarantee that it's not just 518 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320 the local whatever carpenter business, 519 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,360 but it's like actually retired old grizzled dudes 520 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,440 looking for something to do, like that's the way to go. 521 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,360 That's fun. 522 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,040 - Can I pile onto Russell's idea here? 523 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,880 - Please, yes. 524 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,560 - So I've had a very similar idea, 525 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 but I wanna, instead of focusing on fixing my water heater, 526 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,880 I want somebody to just teach me about stepper motors, 527 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,320 or walk me through my Facebook ads. 528 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,920 I kinda want Fiverr, but like I don't want $5 people, 529 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,760 I want $100 an hour people where I can just get on, 530 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,560 and it's like, I just wanna speak to a professional 531 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960 in an industry, and just, yeah, 532 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,440 'cause going through all the YouTube slog is terrible, 533 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,480 'cause they don't know what problem I'm having. 534 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,500 I end up watching an hour long video 535 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,080 to find the two minute segment 536 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,260 that addresses the issue I'm having, right? 537 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:11,860 Like I just wanna cut to the crap and get somebody 538 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:15,120 that can help me with my problem, 539 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,240 but it's not just water heaters or home stuff, 540 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,760 it's like on a professional level too. 541 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,800 - Totally. 542 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,240 - I feel like LinkedIn is supposed to do that, 543 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,440 that's like what they want LinkedIn to do, 544 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,480 but it just doesn't work. 545 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560 I don't know, it just doesn't scratch the itch 546 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,960 the way it's supposed to. 547 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,880 - Do you wanna connect? 548 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,360 - Yeah, that's amazing. 549 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,140 I did not think about how this would apply 550 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:39,520 to my life outside of DIY projects, 551 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,560 but that's so true. 552 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,880 The amount of videos that I've had to watch 553 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,560 for some software solution, that I'm like, yeah. 554 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,080 And then you end up watching three of them 555 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,560 because you don't trust the first one. 556 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,560 You always gotta watch the second and third one 557 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160 to make sure they all say the same thing. 558 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,360 - You watch like eight of them and find consensus 559 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,560 'cause you got the one whack nut who's not doing it right. 560 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,400 Yeah. 561 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,400 - Yeah. 562 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,480 - That's the streets, you know? 563 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,680 That's how you learn on the streets 564 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,160 of back in the day of early YouTube, you know? 565 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Yeah, people read books. 566 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,960 No, we watch three hours of YouTube. 567 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,940 That's our thing. 568 00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,880 - Dude, that's a great idea. 569 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440 - Yeah, I think there's something there 570 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,240 for somebody to build off of. 571 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,680 I just think that it's hard to trust 572 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,560 or build a trustworthy website. 573 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,480 So the charging per dollar thing just seems like it's hard. 574 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,640 But I think-- 575 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,760 - Oh, like per minute, yeah. 576 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,680 - Yeah, but I think that's why it's like, I don't know. 577 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,980 - First two hours free. 578 00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:36,960 - Oh yeah, maybe that. 579 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,440 - Or something to like get me in, you know? 580 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,880 I need to get hooked. 581 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,560 - I mean, honestly, it might be like, okay, 582 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,280 if I get my first two hours free with whatever handyman, 583 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Handyman Bob on your website and it works and it's great, 584 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,960 I am always going back to Handyman Bob. 585 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Like, holy shit, like you helped me on this one. 586 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Help me on this next project coming forward. 587 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,680 - You could also just do a big data play, right? 588 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Where it's like we're collecting all of this video stuff 589 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,360 and soon we're gonna have a video AI robot that, you know? 590 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:07,200 - AI assistant. 591 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,320 - We'll just make another YouTube video 592 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320 and put it out there. 593 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,360 - You can just FaceTime with the robot and it'll know. 594 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,840 Like, it'll take us 10 years to get there, 595 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200 but you would own all the data, right? 596 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,040 You'd be able to solve any problem. 597 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,240 - That's actually really interesting. 598 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,920 Like, if there's something wrong with my dishwasher, 599 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,920 I need this repaired. 600 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560 And this video, I look at 10 different videos 601 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,360 and none of them are the exact same dishwasher. 602 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,440 They're close, but it's not that same brand 603 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,840 as Samsung, whatever. 604 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,880 But by doing that and collecting all this, 605 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,400 I would have some guy repairing the exact same dishwasher 606 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,560 that I have at some point. 607 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760 - Yeah, actually, it'd be so funny 608 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 if all the free calls were recorded 609 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,360 and the education was free. 610 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,960 And now you pay a subscription to access the library 611 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,920 of everybody else's videos. 612 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,920 And now you look up like Samsung S3RUN, right? 613 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,880 And now I can find that dishwasher and watch that. 614 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,400 - Or just post up all those videos on YouTube 615 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,160 as marketing for your platform, right? 616 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,000 - Make that ad sense funny. 617 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,840 - That's how you bring people in. 618 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,680 - I've thought about this. 619 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,120 - This is it, man. 620 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,400 - For a minute, I was like gonna do this idea. 621 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Like I still might. 622 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480 So like, if you steal my idea, 623 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920 know that you might be competing with me. 624 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,760 - TMTM. 625 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,600 - Right. 626 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,440 (laughing) 627 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,280 - TMTM. 628 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,320 - Take it, man. 629 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,920 I will sign up. 630 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,400 I'll be your early adopter, man. 631 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,360 - Yeah, me too. 632 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:27,600 I haven't done it yet, but I might. 633 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,600 - Can you imagine a dating, 634 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,480 this is kind of a dating app where you're going through 635 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,280 and it's like, this person has self-reported 636 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,960 that they are an expert in these brands, 637 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,220 these categories of home repair. 638 00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:40,120 They were a carpenter for 12 years. 639 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,520 They were a furnace guy for eight. 640 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,020 Yeah, that'd be so cool. 641 00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:43,860 - Dude, yeah. 642 00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:44,680 - Swipe right. 643 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,160 - We could take over LinkedIn. 644 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Basically get all these professionals 645 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440 helping them generate content. 646 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440 It's super casual and free. 647 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Like, you know, and now you're just like, 648 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,240 oh, I didn't know I was creating content. 649 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,960 And all of a sudden I'm a content engine machine. 650 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,220 You know? 651 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:04,380 - Talking to a person who's like in the evening, 652 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:07,200 but currently in the workforce is fine, 653 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,440 but it seems like it'd be really fun 654 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,740 if it was grizzled old retirees. 655 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:13,420 Like, there's something charming about that. 656 00:23:13,420 --> 00:23:14,420 - Yeah. - I don't know why. 657 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:15,800 - The grandpas, you know? 658 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,000 - I've never worked on a Samsung dishwasher before. 659 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,260 They didn't invent those back when I worked, but. 660 00:23:21,260 --> 00:23:22,900 - Get yourself a Maytag. 661 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:27,940 - Washboard and a bucket. 662 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:28,780 - Yeah. 663 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:31,980 - All right, so I mean, that's it, guys. 664 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:35,140 Like, that's a, I feel like very simple, 665 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:36,940 but I think that it's like, 666 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:38,620 I have a, I think there's like a, 667 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,220 there's probably a company out there that does this, 668 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,780 or like, they're already like Angie's List and TaskRabbit 669 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:47,660 and those types of folks that could totally. 670 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,220 But there's something, you know, 671 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:53,980 maybe they tap into this or this company exists 672 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:56,940 and they pull in Angie's List professionals and stuff. 673 00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:59,620 It just feels like easy to steal 674 00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:02,660 or maybe there's a reason why it wasn't. 675 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:07,140 - Angie's List was great when it was a list of ratings. 676 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:09,540 It was like Yelp, like Google Maps reviews, right? 677 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:10,980 And then they turned into this like, 678 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:13,540 we'll call you from a special number 679 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:14,780 and take care of all of it for you. 680 00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:17,180 And I don't trust it as much anymore. 681 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:19,140 And I feel like that's because 682 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,060 I'm not able to see all the options 683 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:23,700 and I'm not able to get the bio of the places 684 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,940 and I'm not looking at actual verified reviews or whatever. 685 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:27,740 It's like, we'll match for you 686 00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:30,020 and you don't get to see any of their info. 687 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:30,860 Don't worry about it. 688 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,060 We'll do all the connecting. 689 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:35,100 It's like, something that's really charming 690 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,920 about what you're originally pitching, Russell, 691 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,740 is the connection that you're gonna have with a rando. 692 00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:44,500 Like, this is Doug, he did this for 50 years or whatever. 693 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:48,100 Like, this is Susan and she currently works in the industry 694 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,340 and here's connecting you now. 695 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:51,980 That's so much better. 696 00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:54,060 - I tried to make a TikTok ad the other day. 697 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,740 And like what you said, Chase, like I went on Fiverr, 698 00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:59,660 found someone who's done this a hundred times 699 00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:02,380 and all I paid for was like a one hour video call 700 00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:04,320 with this person, nothing else. 701 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,900 And I got so much further from this one video call 702 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,500 than anything would have been me digging through YouTubes 703 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,620 and whatnot trying this. 704 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:13,180 I really like this idea. 705 00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:15,260 - Dude, send me your guy. 706 00:25:15,260 --> 00:25:17,260 I want a video call with him. 707 00:25:17,260 --> 00:25:19,780 - He's in Morocco and he's awesome. 708 00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:21,020 - Oh, I love Morocco. 709 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,180 Yeah, serious. 710 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,540 Send me your guy. 711 00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:24,380 - I will. 712 00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:28,060 - The other problem with Fiverr is I just get nervous 713 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:31,340 about like, are these guys any good, right? 714 00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:33,220 And like, they've got reviews. 715 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:35,180 - Funny, he was recommended by a different Fiverr guy 716 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:36,180 and that's why I used them. 717 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:38,940 - Yeah, I feel like the reviews on Fiverr, 718 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:40,780 like I just don't trust those as much. 719 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,580 - The whole premise of Fiverr was cheap 720 00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:46,420 and medium quality at best, like for a long time. 721 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,580 Rather trying to make it like more, you know, 722 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,320 luxury quality products. 723 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,780 But yeah, it's hard to shake that stigma 724 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:55,340 when you kind of build your whole name 725 00:25:55,340 --> 00:25:58,100 and branding and conceit off of cheap, cheap, cheap. 726 00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,500 - Five, five dollars. 727 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,020 - Was that guy, Scott, like, was it a free call? 728 00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:03,180 Like, was it just like an intro, 729 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:04,340 get to know each other call? 730 00:26:04,340 --> 00:26:05,380 - No. 731 00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:06,220 - Oh, you paid for that? 732 00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:08,300 - I straight up, I paid for the service up front 733 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,740 to be like, I will help you get up and running for this. 734 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:13,540 - Oh, okay, so he did book by the hour. 735 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:15,820 So this is kind of like an example of it working. 736 00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:16,700 Okay, cool. 737 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:17,540 - Yeah. 738 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:18,820 - Validated. 739 00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:20,220 - Yeah, I think people are, I mean, 740 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:23,340 I don't know how many like, people that'll help you 741 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:26,700 with your dishwasher on Fiverr, but there's definitely 742 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,500 like some consulting that goes through there. 743 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,220 - It's hard to be a 30 year veteran 744 00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:31,540 grizzled old TikToker. 745 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,780 (laughing) 746 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:34,620 - That's true. 747 00:26:34,620 --> 00:26:37,020 - I've been doing TikTok for a long time, kid. 748 00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:40,480 - Oh, so all these companies, right? 749 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,500 They spend all this time quoting 750 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:43,940 and they have all these wheel, 751 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:48,700 these guys driving around doing quotes for work, right? 752 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:50,820 Like they just drove out there, it's like, yeah, 753 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:52,300 it's going to be 60 bucks minimum 754 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,660 for me to drive out there to see what I could have just seen 755 00:26:55,660 --> 00:26:57,740 or send me a picture, right? 756 00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:59,100 Like you solve some of that 757 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,420 and you make a really good experience for people. 758 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:03,820 Like I think for millennials too, 759 00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:06,700 like tapping into that market, like it's just, 760 00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:09,840 oh, you're a video call away from doing a quote. 761 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,700 And now instead of it being $60, 762 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:14,980 an hour of some dude's time in our company, 763 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,640 you now just did it virtually. 764 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,580 That's good. 765 00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:22,060 - Company saves gas, company's able to bang, bang, bang 766 00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:23,900 right through all the morning calls. 767 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:24,940 Yeah, totally. 768 00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:28,940 - And this also, I think like there's some element to like, 769 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:29,900 Chase, what you were saying, 770 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,720 like in my friend group and my maybe like extended network, 771 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,740 like there are probably people that want to talk to me 772 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:38,320 about like no code, for example. 773 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,940 And I don't know how to charge for that 774 00:27:40,940 --> 00:27:43,060 without being weird, right? 775 00:27:43,060 --> 00:27:45,460 So it's like, oh, book a time on my Calendly 776 00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:47,620 and there's a checkout page or something like. 777 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,580 - Which that is a thing, cal.com. 778 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:51,140 There's other Calendlies that'll like do 779 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:53,700 like the you pay to get the schedule thing going, 780 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:55,940 but it's still not like a market. 781 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:57,980 You have to have the, I already know them 782 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,220 and yeah, steer them to it first. 783 00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:02,480 - It feels a little weird, I guess doing it that way, right? 784 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,820 Maybe if there is a marketplace or, you know, 785 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:07,340 my LinkedIn profile has like 400 reviews, 786 00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:09,180 like, oh, sorry, I do this for a living. 787 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:11,300 So it's not as weird, right? 788 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,460 But I don't know, there's probably something. 789 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:16,020 There's something that, something there. 790 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:18,660 So, thanks guys. 791 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:22,300 - Good job, you're welcome. 792 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,900 - I'm so excited about this. 793 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,740 - We say thank you at the end of everything. 794 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:28,580 - Thank you for your time. 795 00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:30,420 - I was excited for it. 796 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:39,380 - All right, Scotty, let's hear what you got this time. 797 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,780 - Russell, I am so excited. 798 00:28:40,780 --> 00:28:43,940 I think this idea is a product hardware idea 799 00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:46,580 and it'll go very well with yours. 800 00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:50,200 I do a lot of troubleshooting for my job right now. 801 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,140 Every, and I've worked with either with customers 802 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:58,320 or remotely and by far the most difficult troubleshooting 803 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200 I've ever had to deal with is with my parents. 804 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,360 My parents have something wrong with the television 805 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,760 or there's an app that is doing something weird 806 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960 and I got to hop on a call with them and be like, 807 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760 have them explain it to me over the phone 808 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,920 or we'll try to set up a, more recently, 809 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,560 I've been trying to set up like a Google Hangouts 810 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,520 or something like, mom, just click this link, 811 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760 just click this link and everything will be, 812 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,200 and then I'll be able to see what's going on. 813 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840 And even that just doesn't work. 814 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,960 As Rebecca said last week, a silver tsunami is coming. 815 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,500 This is gonna be a more and more occurrence. 816 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,540 I would like to build a hardware device 817 00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:39,360 that helps in remote troubleshooting 818 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,060 where it's a very one-sided device 819 00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:46,080 where I have complete control over it on one side 820 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,920 and on the other side, it just sits there 821 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720 and nothing else has to be done. 822 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,280 So I'm picturing like a 360 degree camera on a device 823 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,820 with a laser pointer on a gimbal 824 00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:01,200 that I can like point to different things in the room 825 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080 or on the television or whatever. 826 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400 There's a screen on it that I can show, 827 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,780 I can pull up images of screenshots that it took 828 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:11,240 and drew a big circle on it or pull up YouTube videos. 829 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,340 There's a built-in microphone and speaker. 830 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:16,260 That's about as far as I got before I'm like, 831 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:17,580 "Crap, I really wanna build this." 832 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:18,420 - The orb. 833 00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:20,980 - Exactly, just the orb. 834 00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:24,060 Mom, go get the orb, hit the button on the orb. 835 00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:26,200 And then it'll just, everything is pre-set up 836 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,500 and it'll automatically like generate the call 837 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,580 and I can just hop onto it and walk them through 838 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:35,820 why their Sony television doesn't have the HBO app 839 00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,860 or something like installed and how to do that. 840 00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:41,020 - Throw an IR blaster on it, boom. 841 00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:44,020 - Oh, right, that's a great idea. 842 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:46,700 Or have it like a Bluetooth receiver on it 843 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:48,320 that I just see, it's just sniffing 844 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,380 all the Bluetooth devices in the room. 845 00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:52,580 It'd be like, "Well, mom, this one isn't on right now. 846 00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:54,940 You gotta turn this switch." 847 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,700 Just everything you could ever want for troubleshooting 848 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,860 in one device, one-sided. 849 00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:00,780 That's my idea. 850 00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:03,620 - The guys at Def Con are gonna love hacking this thing. 851 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:05,880 (laughing) 852 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,460 You'd be messing with all these old people. 853 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,580 - That's what everyone wants, 854 00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:12,260 another camera in their house, you know? 855 00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:15,100 - You could have the Staples Easy button on the top 856 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,140 that only opens up and connects to wifi 857 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:20,500 and does stuff when kids told me to press the button 858 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,060 or I need help button and then that's when it connects. 859 00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:24,700 But yeah. 860 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,020 - Let 'em spy, they'll be watching over our old people, 861 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:29,940 you know, just making sure they're safe. 862 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:31,180 - It's comforting. 863 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:35,260 - Yeah, it's like, "Oh, the hacker saw me fall 864 00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:36,980 and now they called 911." 865 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,540 I don't know, but nice hackers. 866 00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:40,900 - I got an interesting help desk ticket 867 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:42,740 a couple months ago from someone where I work 868 00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:44,700 who was asking what is the best way for me 869 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:49,580 to find a device where I can give it to my elderly mom 870 00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:52,520 who's in a nursing home where I can call her 871 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,620 and she doesn't have to do anything. 872 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:56,100 Where I can like drop in and just start a call 873 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,060 and there's literally nothing. 874 00:31:58,060 --> 00:32:01,520 We looked at Amazon, if you have an Amazon Echo 875 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,580 that is part of your household 876 00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:05,140 and then you put it in their house, 877 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:06,520 you can do the drop in feature 878 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,860 where it kind of starts an intercom type thing. 879 00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:12,420 Yeah, you just wanna like bolt more and more sensors 880 00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:13,260 and stuff onto something like that. 881 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:15,260 - I wanna add more features to that. 882 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:16,100 - That's great. 883 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,060 - I want that laser pointer. 884 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:19,820 That would be so game changing for me. 885 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:21,220 If I could see everything in the room 886 00:32:21,220 --> 00:32:23,480 and point at one thing. 887 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,820 You know what, screw it. 888 00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:27,780 Take that laser pointer gimbal and put a stylus on it 889 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:29,860 and be like, "Mom, just put your phone in front of me 890 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:34,860 and I will like point and fix whatever is going wrong." 891 00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:38,700 I will change your settings remotely with my stylus. 892 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,640 - That's awesome. 893 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:45,380 So a long time ago, I hacked my Ender 3 3D printer 894 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:47,300 and put a stylus on it and had it play 895 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,100 one of those word search games. 896 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,820 It's called Word Fate. 897 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:53,540 And I got like, I set it up and it would just run all night 898 00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:57,460 and I had like a camera that was doing recognition 899 00:32:57,460 --> 00:32:59,620 to pick up the letters and everything. 900 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:01,600 It was like a several month project, 901 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 but I beat every single level on that game. 902 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,380 - Got the all time high score. 903 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:08,180 - That's wonderful. 904 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:10,620 - Yeah, I posted on YouTube and all sorts of people 905 00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:12,940 commented that they hated me and that I was cheating 906 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:13,780 and all that stuff. 907 00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:15,440 I'm like, "You guys don't get it." 908 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,100 - They're blood and tears. 909 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,300 If we're porting that game and you're just... 910 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,900 No, that makes sense. 911 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,540 - Some hacker with an Ender. 912 00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:26,860 - So Scott, I feel like you could create multiple, 913 00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:29,780 like just sell separate devices, right? 914 00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:33,660 So you have like, so why I say that is because... 915 00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:34,500 - Make it modular? 916 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:36,300 - Yeah, you have the laser pointer. 917 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,620 So it's good for you to tell where your parents need to go, 918 00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,700 but also if you need to play with your dog, 919 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,260 you know, or your cat, you just need them to run around, 920 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,580 just plug it in, universal market, right? 921 00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,500 It's not just old folks. 922 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:51,640 And then your 3D camera thing, you know, 923 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,420 just a plug and play thing. 924 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:55,340 I think that's really helpful for like, 925 00:33:55,340 --> 00:34:00,140 home security to, you know, job sites, right? 926 00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:02,940 If you have multiple job sites and you wanna remote in 927 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:06,220 and see, is your team slacking off, you know? 928 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:09,180 So you can just pop in, turn on the green light 929 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,020 and like, get to work. 930 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:12,380 - Is your team slacking off? 931 00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:14,540 - I mean, if you have like three hour, 932 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:16,860 like job sites that are like an hour apart, you know, 933 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:19,180 and you're, you know, there's probably that, 934 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:20,900 something like that, but... 935 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,100 - You can attach the whip attachment, 936 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:26,980 crack it at your, yeah, the insubordination. 937 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:31,980 - That's right, you know, or like there's probably a more... 938 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,300 That's right, just light a firecracker, 939 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,060 a black cat every hour if they're, 940 00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:37,900 - Oh my God. 941 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,260 - Auto mode, you know? 942 00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:44,540 But like the Facebook, I used actually the Facebook portal 943 00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:45,380 back in the day. 944 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:46,220 - Yeah, portal, that's what it's called. 945 00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:48,020 - Yeah, and that was really, 946 00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:49,300 Carrie's grandpa used that. 947 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,260 Everybody loved that thing. 948 00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:53,980 Like every single, because like... 949 00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:54,820 - You know why? 950 00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:57,060 'Cause it was simple on the parent's side. 951 00:34:57,060 --> 00:35:01,660 I hit the button and I'm talking to my kids at this point. 952 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:03,540 - It was super nice. 953 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:05,940 The funny thing is you had to create like a Facebook account 954 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,900 for somebody that's never gonna use Facebook, 955 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:10,460 and then everybody had to like add him as a friend, 956 00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:12,700 and it just became this whole thing. 957 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,700 - I want even less steps. 958 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:15,540 - Yeah. 959 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:17,500 - I want one, which is honestly, Chase, 960 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:18,340 what you were saying about like, 961 00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:21,180 yeah, this is gonna be such a target for hackers on it. 962 00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:23,620 And you're right, it probably would be. 963 00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:26,340 I really like the idea of having it like, 964 00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:28,620 it is fully disconnected from everything. 965 00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:31,060 Just a couple of relays in there that are like, 966 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:33,700 you cannot do this until the person comes over 967 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,380 and like hits the big button on top 968 00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:38,100 that activates everything, then I get the link to use. 969 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,380 So that there aren't even more scams going around 970 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:43,260 through my mobile laser pointer device. 971 00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:46,740 - Could you just get like security cameras or something? 972 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:49,780 And then when you hit the button, it gives them power. 973 00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:50,660 I don't know. 974 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:53,460 Seems like this should not be difficult to prototype. 975 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:55,580 Like we should be able to buy a bunch of off the shelf stuff 976 00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,620 and just slap it together, right? 977 00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:58,460 - Oh yeah. 978 00:35:58,460 --> 00:35:59,300 - All right, cool. 979 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,580 - We'll report back next week with our prototype. 980 00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:02,740 (laughing) 981 00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:06,260 - With their ball of UV cameras and laser pointer 982 00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:08,180 with the Nerf gun firing. 983 00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:10,460 (laughing) 984 00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,100 - Just create a BB-8, you know? 985 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:15,200 Just get an R2-D2 made for real, though, real life one. 986 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,660 - Seriously. 987 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:20,340 - This is, I was thinking about this. 988 00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:22,900 What if you had a device, like my wife, 989 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:24,780 it takes care of my kid, right? 990 00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:28,660 And what if she falls or like gets injured 991 00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:31,820 and nobody's able to call me, right? 992 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:33,540 That this has happened. 993 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:37,060 But if I put up a little device for my kid 994 00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:42,060 to call grandma, grandpa, just very simple interface. 995 00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,500 - Life alert for babies. 996 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,900 - Yes, like kind of like old people 997 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:51,600 and very young people have a lot in common, right? 998 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,460 (laughing) 999 00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:54,300 I mean. 1000 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:55,140 - Life is a bell curve of skills. 1001 00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:58,040 - They can nap whenever they want, me too. 1002 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,220 They don't know what time it is. 1003 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:02,220 Impulse control, I don't know. 1004 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,940 - They can't install Netflix on their smart TV. 1005 00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:08,420 - That's, yes, right? 1006 00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:13,420 But they wanna watch a show and they will demand for it. 1007 00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:14,820 It's very similar. 1008 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:19,820 So I guess, don't stop at all, people, 1009 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,860 saying, but like I think babies would love 1010 00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:24,620 to call their grandma, you know? 1011 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:27,780 And how awesome would it be if my kids 1012 00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:29,480 were talking to grandpa all the time, 1013 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,720 whenever he wanted, right? 1014 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,740 It wasn't like a forced option. 1015 00:37:32,740 --> 00:37:33,580 It was-- 1016 00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:36,000 - My kids are already talking to grandma all the time 1017 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,200 and I hate it. 1018 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,460 (laughing) 1019 00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:41,260 - Do they initiate it all by themselves? 1020 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,040 - No, I don't know who's initiating it. 1021 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,440 I'm sure she's initiating it. 1022 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,160 But I feel like every time I turn around, 1023 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,080 they're talking to grandma and grandma doesn't hang up. 1024 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,760 She just waits, right? 1025 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,320 The kids are just running around with the phone. 1026 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,320 They'll set it down in the corner and grandma will just wait. 1027 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,160 (laughing) 1028 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120 - But then Zion's phone's on a commission. 1029 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,960 You need the orb. 1030 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,780 - It's awful. 1031 00:37:58,780 --> 00:37:59,880 - Yeah, the orb. 1032 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,240 - It's gotta be mounted to a wall 1033 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,680 and expire after 20 minutes. 1034 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,240 You have to restart the session every-- 1035 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,080 - There you go. 1036 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,540 - I want it so that it's tracking faces 1037 00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,480 and if there's not a face in front of the screen, 1038 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,320 ends the call. 1039 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600 So when my kids walk away, it's over, boom. 1040 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,240 - That's actually very convenient for old and young people. 1041 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,280 (laughing) 1042 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,240 - Let's do that. 1043 00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:26,980 - Oh yeah. 1044 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:31,340 - All right, Leo, what idea do you have this week? 1045 00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:36,340 - All right, I was in a newly opened health food store here 1046 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:39,380 where we live and they have this super cute thing 1047 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:40,300 that I'd never seen before 1048 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,940 where they have regular size carts for the adults 1049 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:45,180 and they have little tiny kid sized carts 1050 00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:48,740 and there's a big flag that comes up from the cart 1051 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,540 that says shopper in training 1052 00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:52,300 and they can walk around the store with their parents 1053 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,180 and put their products into their own shopping carts. 1054 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:56,100 And it's super cute, right? 1055 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,300 It gives the kids something to do 1056 00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,620 so they're not wandering around 1057 00:38:58,620 --> 00:38:59,820 stealing cookies off the shelf 1058 00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:02,180 and throwing tantrums in the middle of the aisle. 1059 00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:04,540 It gives them purpose and autonomy. 1060 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,300 And I was thinking about the logical end of that situation 1061 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,740 where they arrive at the checkout lane together 1062 00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:13,180 and you've got too wide of a cart situation going on 1063 00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:14,340 and you're trying to figure out 1064 00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:16,180 what products are in what cart, get it all. 1065 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,780 Mom or dad is struggling to get all the stuff 1066 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:21,660 out of both the carts and that'd be a little bit chaotic. 1067 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:25,660 I think that there should be a checkout lane 1068 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:27,900 much like you have like the regular checkout lanes 1069 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,180 and the robot checkout lanes for self-checkout. 1070 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,220 There should be one or two 1071 00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:34,920 that is the parent and child co-lanes 1072 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,300 where they're paired together. 1073 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:39,460 The parent walks up and they start the checkout system. 1074 00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:40,900 They say, you know, begin the new thing 1075 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,280 and they scan their first item 1076 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600 and both the normal height one 1077 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,500 and the small kid height one light up together 1078 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,480 and the kid can start checking out too. 1079 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,180 It shows up on the one bill. 1080 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:54,740 It's all going to the parent's one who's in control. 1081 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,460 The kid gets a dumbed down interface 1082 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:59,900 where they're only looking at like, hold item here. 1083 00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,780 Great, you did it, put it in the spot. 1084 00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:04,540 It doesn't have to have much on the kid's side. 1085 00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:06,780 But then at the very end, mom says complete 1086 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:09,740 or dad says complete and then they both get totaled up 1087 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:12,820 and it's like, you know, giving the kid more, 1088 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:15,420 hey, you did it, good job autonomy, you know? 1089 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:16,260 - Awesome. 1090 00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:18,220 This is fricking, I don't know why 1091 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,440 but I feel like this is so important for the world. 1092 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,960 - I imagine the checkout machine companies 1093 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120 are not at the forefront of innovation 1094 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,280 but there's gotta be like something 1095 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,120 that you could pitch to a regional chain 1096 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,060 that would, they'd be interested in prototyping 1097 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:35,980 something like this, right? 1098 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:38,040 - Yeah, just make a modular device 1099 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,760 that you can drop into any store from there. 1100 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,080 - Oh, that could be fun. 1101 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,120 - I mean, all the checkout lanes are now self-checkout 1102 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,080 for the most part, right? 1103 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,100 Like they need to figure out what to do 1104 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,020 with all these checkout lanes. 1105 00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:51,740 Dude, like you can create that whole-- 1106 00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:53,660 - The very best case scenario in the checkout lane 1107 00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:55,700 when you have a kid is that they're immobile 1108 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,700 because they're trapped in a cart or whatever, right? 1109 00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,940 Like it's not, it's never pretty 1110 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,560 when you have a bunch of kids running around 1111 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,500 in a small confined checkout lane. 1112 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,500 Give them something to do, you know? 1113 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,940 - I know and they put the gum and the candy in arm's reach. 1114 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:11,580 They literally try to make it awful. 1115 00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,620 - On the parent's side, they could be like approving 1116 00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:15,300 the items as they come so the kid doesn't try 1117 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,020 to sneak Oreos through or whatever. 1118 00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:18,360 - Oreos, Oreos, Oreos. 1119 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,060 (laughing) 1120 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:21,900 - Yeah. 1121 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,460 - I think they should just, honestly Leo, 1122 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,800 like you could create that whole fancy interface 1123 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,860 but like just drop them in a ball pit. 1124 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,760 Like this is the ball pit lane. 1125 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,800 Put them down in there. 1126 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,780 It's like a little bit cage-like, you know? 1127 00:41:34,780 --> 00:41:38,180 But like we just need to check out here 1128 00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,880 and the kids are always at the end of their rope 1129 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120 by the time that they've got to the checkout. 1130 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,220 They've sat in the cart the whole time. 1131 00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:47,420 They didn't get half the shit they wanted 1132 00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:50,380 so they're already mad. 1133 00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:53,100 And then all the cool stuff at checkout, 1134 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,940 nope, mom and dad won't let me. 1135 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:57,580 So, oh, but here's a ball pit. 1136 00:41:57,580 --> 00:41:59,380 Just sit, you know, or whatever. 1137 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:04,140 Like a slide, you know, just that would be, that's it. 1138 00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,300 You just take one checkout lane and literally that, 1139 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,700 I bet that lane is gonna be long, like 30 minutes long 1140 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,980 'cause it's worth waiting for. 1141 00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:12,820 - Maybe. 1142 00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:16,140 - Like if you are, it can be a normal checkout lane, right? 1143 00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:18,100 If you don't have a kid, it doesn't have to function 1144 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:20,260 with the little kids thing, that's like an option. 1145 00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:21,860 They should have a couple of them here and there 1146 00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:23,820 that are right next to the regular one, you know? 1147 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:25,600 It doesn't take up space too much. 1148 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,660 - Yeah, they do this with like this, 1149 00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:29,300 like you know how there's like a special lane 1150 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,580 for like the liquor and cigarettes? 1151 00:42:31,580 --> 00:42:33,700 I think they have it at like Walmart. 1152 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,340 Like you just take that section out and just put it, 1153 00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:39,580 that's the kid one, right? 1154 00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:41,820 - We're gonna make liquor and cigarettes for kids. 1155 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:44,060 (laughing) 1156 00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,740 - Try to open this device, unlock the. 1157 00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:48,700 - I think you're right though, 1158 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:52,060 that they're not too concerned about people with kids 1159 00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,740 and optimizing the experience for eight year olds. 1160 00:42:54,740 --> 00:42:58,660 - Your MVP could just be like just another checkout lane, 1161 00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:02,060 a plastic checkout lane that has no electronics at all, 1162 00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:03,740 except a beeping noise. 1163 00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:05,060 And then when you've scanned items, 1164 00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:06,820 you put them in the kids section 1165 00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:08,780 that they can scan them to and put it in. 1166 00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:09,620 - That's a good idea. 1167 00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:10,620 - And that's the whole thing. 1168 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:12,660 You're helping, you're helping daddy. 1169 00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:14,420 - Fisher Price might already make something like that. 1170 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:15,460 You just stick it in there. 1171 00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:16,860 - Yeah, totally. 1172 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:17,820 - Put it in a grocery store, 1173 00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:19,420 sell it to a grocery store. 1174 00:43:19,420 --> 00:43:20,260 - Something made of metal. 1175 00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:24,500 - Dude, this could be like a revenue stream for them. 1176 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,960 I think if you created like, I don't know, 1177 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,900 maybe a little section of the store for them to, 1178 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,760 everything's their heights and they got to pick. 1179 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,540 It's all like a mini dollar store for kids, right? 1180 00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:37,380 - That's cool. 1181 00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,220 - You have five dollars and just give them five singles 1182 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:41,420 like pick out five things. 1183 00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:42,860 Little checkout experience. 1184 00:43:42,860 --> 00:43:44,220 - Maybe one dollar, how about one dollar? 1185 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:45,620 - Get the brand loyalty. 1186 00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:47,460 - It's all like Chuck E. Cheese tokens, right? 1187 00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:49,580 You buy a little Chuck E. Cheese token at the start 1188 00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:51,380 and you say, this is your coin and they get the whole, 1189 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:52,380 yeah, that's a fun idea. 1190 00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:53,220 - That's a good idea. 1191 00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:55,220 - Target would eat that up. 1192 00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:57,060 Target, like put a little, 1193 00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,340 like they're all about the Target mom, right? 1194 00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:01,140 They have the dollar store section 1195 00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:04,980 and you get a brand loyal buyer forever. 1196 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:07,860 Like mama's going to Target, let's go. 1197 00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:08,700 - Sure. 1198 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:10,620 - I'm a buyer, I want to stay at home. 1199 00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:14,620 Sorry, Meyer, if you were going to be a sponsor, 1200 00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:16,340 no, I'll flip the names. 1201 00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:18,620 But yeah, that's like the concept, right? 1202 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:20,060 I think you can turn this into, 1203 00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:22,820 rather than just trying to accommodate a busy parent, 1204 00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:26,260 like turn this into a revenue stream for kids. 1205 00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:27,660 - Make a part of your brand. 1206 00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:29,260 - Yeah, this is like, what is it? 1207 00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:31,780 Children's museums do this all the time, right? 1208 00:44:31,780 --> 00:44:35,220 So like they have sponsored little sections 1209 00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:37,660 for grocery stores all the time. 1210 00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:40,500 So I don't know, this just seems like an easy add on. 1211 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,740 And you would just make money building these 1212 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:43,860 and selling the products. 1213 00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:45,660 You just out of the box solution, 1214 00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:48,820 we need a four by four square or not, 1215 00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:50,660 like maybe not four feet, maybe. 1216 00:44:50,660 --> 00:44:52,820 I don't know how big these kids need to be. 1217 00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:56,460 But you just create a set, maybe a wall of goods. 1218 00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:58,340 It's like a vending machine for kids or something. 1219 00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:01,900 I don't know, like sized thing or better 1220 00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:04,780 depending on how you guys, whoever makes this does it. 1221 00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:05,620 Right? 1222 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:07,940 And here, our local grocery store, Chainmire, 1223 00:45:07,940 --> 00:45:10,780 has like a whole separate store within the store 1224 00:45:10,780 --> 00:45:13,060 for just the alcohol section. 1225 00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:14,500 It does seem like you could have that, 1226 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:19,460 but the Chuck E. Cheese area, everything's kid sized. 1227 00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:20,300 That's fun. 1228 00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:21,140 - Just small enough. 1229 00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:22,500 And it's got all this stuff, right? 1230 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,300 So it's, yeah, it should be. 1231 00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,660 I mean, they're selling to kids all the time. 1232 00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:30,420 Like just put every Hot Wheels car in one section, 1233 00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:31,940 every little ball. 1234 00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:35,180 You just, that's, I know exactly what would go on that shelf 1235 00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:36,460 and they're playing with it the whole time. 1236 00:45:36,460 --> 00:45:37,900 - It needs to be consumables, 1237 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,700 moderately healthy consumables. 1238 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,140 I'm not going to get a new Hot Wheels car 1239 00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:44,460 every time I have to go to the grocery store, Russell. 1240 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:46,620 (laughing) 1241 00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:49,500 - I mean, you're not my customer, Leo. 1242 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:50,700 Your kid is, all right? 1243 00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:52,860 That's for sure, so. 1244 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,980 - All right, Chase, what have you brought to us this week? 1245 00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:01,060 - Can I pitch two ideas? 1246 00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:01,980 Is that allowed? 1247 00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:04,180 - Damn, sure, I guess. 1248 00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:06,140 - Yeah, why not? - It's your pitch, go for it. 1249 00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:08,340 - They're free. - All right. 1250 00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:10,620 - You're giving these ideas away, you know. 1251 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:11,860 - Yeah, no, that's cool. 1252 00:46:11,860 --> 00:46:13,260 Yeah, I mean, I'm just hoping 1253 00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:15,020 that somebody's going to execute on these 1254 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,580 so that I can be a customer. 1255 00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:18,780 - Hittas. 1256 00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:21,780 - So I pitched this one in an email, actually, 1257 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:25,220 a couple of weeks ago for my newsletter, 1258 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:26,900 just people who have bought my book. 1259 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,580 And that was a Netflix for Legos. 1260 00:46:30,580 --> 00:46:35,420 So basically, my kids, they'll put together a Lego set, 1261 00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:37,580 and then it basically just goes in the bin 1262 00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,780 with all the other Legos. 1263 00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:41,140 And we've got, I mean, I said a bin. 1264 00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:44,820 I've got three of these huge bins filled with Legos. 1265 00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:47,060 And we have more than enough for free building, 1266 00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:48,980 and my kids are terrible at free building anyway 1267 00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:49,860 and never do it. 1268 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:51,860 But it just feels like such a waste 1269 00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:53,700 to spend $100 on a new Lego set, 1270 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,540 and they do it once, 1271 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:56,340 and then it just goes in the bin forever. 1272 00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,020 And so I was like, what if I could just rent the Lego set? 1273 00:46:59,020 --> 00:46:59,860 They could put it together. 1274 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:00,780 I could send it back, 1275 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:03,100 and they could send it on to another kid, right? 1276 00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,060 So that's idea number one. 1277 00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:05,900 - That's great. 1278 00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:07,580 - Oh, Lego library. 1279 00:47:07,580 --> 00:47:09,260 - Like a Lego library. 1280 00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:11,740 And I think some libraries might even have Legos. 1281 00:47:11,740 --> 00:47:12,900 Mine doesn't. 1282 00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:15,780 But I think, I don't know, I think it's a cool idea. 1283 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:17,220 There's some issues with, 1284 00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:18,700 you gotta figure out shipping, 1285 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:21,200 'cause you start shipping Lego sets back and forth. 1286 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,660 If you get people on subscription, 1287 00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:24,940 and they're doing two or three a month, 1288 00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:27,080 shipping adds up. 1289 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,180 Yeah, and then counting pieces. 1290 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:32,300 I feel like that's a solvable problem. 1291 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,540 We could build some robots to count pieces. 1292 00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:36,580 Like there's some YouTube videos of people. 1293 00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:37,820 - Yeah, wait when it gets back, 1294 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:39,340 and if it's off by X amount, 1295 00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:41,780 then pull it open and count the pieces or something. 1296 00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:42,620 - Sure, yeah. 1297 00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:44,140 - Right, visual learning, right? 1298 00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:46,180 That's the visual eye camera thing. 1299 00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:48,860 - Yeah, but those are solvable issues. 1300 00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:50,340 - Yes. 1301 00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:51,620 - Those are fun problems. 1302 00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:52,460 - Those are fun problems. 1303 00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:54,140 - And if you're making the service, 1304 00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:57,380 you don't have to use the official Harry Potter set 1305 00:47:57,380 --> 00:47:58,600 with all of its whack pieces. 1306 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,700 You could make your own sets that are a little more basic 1307 00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,420 and easy to keep track of with all the basic parts. 1308 00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:06,220 You have your own plain set 1309 00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:09,620 that your Netflix for Legos has designed with, 1310 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:12,500 you know exactly it's the same 50 pieces 1311 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:13,540 across the entire thing, 1312 00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:15,280 so you get the economies of scale there. 1313 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,120 - Yeah. 1314 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,940 - Whoa. 1315 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:20,580 - And there are some people who have done similar things. 1316 00:48:20,580 --> 00:48:22,580 I think there's somebody in the UK 1317 00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:26,820 that's doing rent Lego stuff. 1318 00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:28,180 I don't know, I think it's a fun idea. 1319 00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:30,020 I would sign up and do it. 1320 00:48:30,020 --> 00:48:32,140 - Dude, I could Spitball that for like, 1321 00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:33,140 what Leo, you just said. 1322 00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:33,980 - I know, same. 1323 00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:37,860 - Chase, you could totally, I think you said this, 1324 00:48:37,860 --> 00:48:40,140 what if you took or scanned all the Legos 1325 00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:45,140 in your library and just open source Lego creations, right? 1326 00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:49,440 And so now people know your inventory 1327 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,620 and now your subscription Netflix style 1328 00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:53,640 is not getting new boxes, 1329 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,420 but taking your current Lego set 1330 00:48:55,420 --> 00:49:00,060 and applying it to new designs, creator community, 1331 00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:03,080 or it just auto generates the instructions 1332 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,260 based upon what you have in front of you. 1333 00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:07,380 - So there's actually an app that does this. 1334 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:09,140 I think it's called Brick It. 1335 00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:09,980 - No way. 1336 00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:13,100 - And you spread out all your Legos on the carpet 1337 00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,780 and then you like hold it up 1338 00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:18,020 and it's supposed to scan your Legos and inventory 1339 00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:19,620 and then tell you what you can build. 1340 00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:20,460 - That's really cool. 1341 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:22,460 - In theory, it's really awesome. 1342 00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:23,900 I haven't used it in a while, 1343 00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:25,740 but I tried using it like two years ago 1344 00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:28,740 and I scanned probably like 200 pieces 1345 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:30,260 and then it kicked back and it was like, 1346 00:49:30,260 --> 00:49:32,700 you can use 20 of your pieces to build this bird. 1347 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:34,860 And I was like, oh, that's not exciting. 1348 00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:38,620 So the execution wasn't quite there when I tested it. 1349 00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:41,220 It's probably better now, but yeah. 1350 00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:42,060 - Maybe the community. 1351 00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:45,820 - There's a lot of people in the Lego space 1352 00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:47,580 working on cool ideas like this. 1353 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:51,540 - Peer to peer, like, hey, you and the guy across town 1354 00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:54,980 who has similar age kids, if you work together, 1355 00:49:54,980 --> 00:49:56,700 you could build this mega robot, 1356 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,020 but you only have half the pieces 1357 00:49:59,020 --> 00:50:00,780 and so do they have the other half. 1358 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:02,580 It's a dating app, but for Legos. 1359 00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,020 (laughing) 1360 00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:06,460 - Yikes. 1361 00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:08,380 - No, it could be good what you were saying though. 1362 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:10,540 Like if you could inventory all of your Legos 1363 00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:13,060 and do it correctly, you know, 1364 00:50:13,060 --> 00:50:15,220 and then like upload it somewhere 1365 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:16,660 and then we could send you designs, 1366 00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:18,460 that'd be cool for sure. 1367 00:50:18,460 --> 00:50:20,380 Or if you could just somehow say like, 1368 00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:22,820 I know I've bought this Lego set in the past, 1369 00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:24,220 I've bought this Lego set in the past, 1370 00:50:24,220 --> 00:50:28,300 like I know I have these pieces and just do it that way. 1371 00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:29,820 Like maybe that's the way to do it. 1372 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:32,060 And then it's like, oh yeah, build the mega robot 1373 00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:35,300 from, you know, these 20 sets that you said 1374 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:37,180 you already, that you have. 1375 00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:40,540 - And Lego themselves have the whole like ideas forge thing 1376 00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:42,780 where people submit designs that they've created 1377 00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:44,980 that they want Lego to make a set for. 1378 00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:47,940 So clearly there's like a well of people 1379 00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:51,540 who are creative with designing cool new things 1380 00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:53,700 that are like, they have, 1381 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:56,220 here's what you could make with these parts, right? 1382 00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:58,100 That inspiration is out there. 1383 00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,100 I'm not the kind of person who can look at a pile 1384 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,100 and say, this is gonna be great as a robot, 1385 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,140 but there's clearly a lot of people out there who are, 1386 00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:07,340 I'd love to like get connected with them, yeah. 1387 00:51:07,340 --> 00:51:08,180 - That's cool. 1388 00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:10,100 - So idea number two. 1389 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100 - Yeah. 1390 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:14,780 - So my kids, I've been paying to have my kids 1391 00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:17,500 take tennis lessons for like two years, okay? 1392 00:51:18,340 --> 00:51:21,220 My son is like eight years old and I, 1393 00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:23,100 and then I go out and I play tennis with him 1394 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,220 and he's swinging his racket, like windmilling it. 1395 00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:29,340 I'm like, dude, forehand, bring it across your body. 1396 00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:32,420 This is like day one in tennis is like how to hit 1397 00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:35,300 a basic forehand and you're swinging the racket around 1398 00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:36,620 like it's a windmill. 1399 00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:40,460 And like, I'm like, you can't hit the ball like that. 1400 00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:44,220 And like, I've probably spent thousands of dollars, 1401 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:48,660 literally thousands of dollars for my kid to learn tennis. 1402 00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:50,900 And he doesn't even know how to hit the ball. 1403 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:52,220 (laughing) 1404 00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:55,660 It's, oh, it's making me so upset. 1405 00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:56,500 Anyway. 1406 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:57,340 - How did you solve this? 1407 00:51:57,340 --> 00:51:58,180 I'd love to hear it. 1408 00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:00,300 - I feel the idea, the idea I had. 1409 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,020 - Is a pit to burn money in. 1410 00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,900 - Does it involve a lot of rubber bands? 1411 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,300 (laughing) 1412 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,580 - Around this time, I bought one of those VR, 1413 00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:12,700 Oculus, Rift headsets, right? 1414 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:15,980 And so, and my kid, like, I didn't even tell my kid 1415 00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:18,140 that I bought one of these 'cause I knew that he would 1416 00:52:18,140 --> 00:52:21,100 just pep me all day long wanting to use it. 1417 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:24,980 'Cause he would use it all day if I would let him, right? 1418 00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:26,540 So I was thinking it'd be cool to just have like 1419 00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:29,660 a tennis training app that was like in VR 1420 00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:32,660 where it's like, we start simple. 1421 00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:35,220 We just put coins or something in the air 1422 00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:38,860 and he's just gotta make that basic forehand stroke 1423 00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,140 and collect the coins. 1424 00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:42,300 (imitating coin dropping) 1425 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:44,820 And then it's like, you know, he just swings through 1426 00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:45,660 and he collects the coins. 1427 00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:48,220 - So this is a wax on, wax off app. 1428 00:52:48,220 --> 00:52:49,060 - Yeah. 1429 00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:50,940 - Where it just has like the outline of the hand to go. 1430 00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:52,980 - We're just gonna draw basic stroke. 1431 00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:55,420 And then maybe like after a while we remove the coins 1432 00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:58,340 and we just have a ball that stands free in the air 1433 00:52:58,340 --> 00:52:59,900 and he just hits that ball. 1434 00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,180 And then maybe the ball just bounces and then you hit it. 1435 00:53:02,180 --> 00:53:04,460 And we just work up to like hitting a ball. 1436 00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:07,260 But we're drilling that basic stroke over and over again 1437 00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:09,540 and we're monitoring that he's like doing it right 1438 00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:11,660 and he's not windmilling, right? 1439 00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:14,700 And I just think that that would be like a super useful, 1440 00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:16,900 let's build some muscle memory here 1441 00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,580 and we can do it for, you know, 1442 00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:20,060 we can make a $20 app 1443 00:53:20,060 --> 00:53:23,180 instead of spending thousands of dollars on lesson. 1444 00:53:23,180 --> 00:53:25,580 Like, I mean, we can still spend thousands of dollars 1445 00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:29,100 on lessons, but this would be a nice supplementary 1446 00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:30,420 teaching tool. 1447 00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:31,340 Anyway. 1448 00:53:31,340 --> 00:53:32,180 - Totally. 1449 00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:34,300 - Long story short, I ended up spending like 20 1450 00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:36,700 or $30,000 trying to like get this developed. 1451 00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,940 (laughing) 1452 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:41,980 - Was this on Fiverr or something? 1453 00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:43,900 - Well, no, I found these guys. 1454 00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,740 - Oh no. 1455 00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,260 - I just found this dev shop that was working on it 1456 00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:49,940 for a while and then they weren't working out. 1457 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:53,980 And so I like fired them and found a local like Unity dev. 1458 00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:57,580 And like, I could, I probably, like I've never done Unity 1459 00:53:57,580 --> 00:54:00,580 and I just felt like I didn't want to go figure it out. 1460 00:54:00,580 --> 00:54:03,780 And so I just wanted to hire somebody in retrospect. 1461 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:05,500 Like if I was serious about doing it 1462 00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,980 instead of paying money, I should have just done it myself. 1463 00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,620 'Cause then I could get it done the way I wanted to. 1464 00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:13,220 But I just don't have the time to like, anyway. 1465 00:54:13,220 --> 00:54:17,100 And the intersection of like people who have VR headsets 1466 00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,940 that want to teach their kids tennis, it's kind of, 1467 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:20,780 it's a tight like-- 1468 00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:22,620 - I love niche markets. 1469 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:24,500 - It's very, I think it's too niche. 1470 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:28,500 So I kind of decided I'm going to put this one on hold. 1471 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,580 I'm going to give this one away to you guys 1472 00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:32,100 so that you can work on it. 1473 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,940 But I will be your first customer and I will pay 1474 00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:37,100 maybe not thousands, but like I'll pay a lot. 1475 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,820 - I will pay $30 for that. 1476 00:54:38,820 --> 00:54:42,580 - We have a friend, the three of us, a good guy friend 1477 00:54:42,580 --> 00:54:46,660 who swears that his Quest 1 back way back when, 1478 00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:49,900 when that was first released, improved his golf game a lot. 1479 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,220 He got one of the pro training golf things 1480 00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:53,580 and he played it quite a bit. 1481 00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:55,740 And he says that it was a night and day difference. 1482 00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:56,780 He loved it. 1483 00:54:56,780 --> 00:54:58,460 And he loved it so much that he bought me 1484 00:54:58,460 --> 00:54:59,300 a copy of the golf game. 1485 00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:00,780 It's fun, I'm not a great golfer. 1486 00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,100 It's like, I don't know, it's like putt-putt or whatever, 1487 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,180 but it's super cool that these technologies can do that. 1488 00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:07,700 - I think you're totally onto something. 1489 00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:10,540 - Yeah, I mean, I still think it's a super cool idea. 1490 00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:11,580 - It looks like there's one company 1491 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:12,900 who's claiming to do this. 1492 00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,740 I don't know if it's, have you ever heard of ATP Tour? 1493 00:55:15,740 --> 00:55:17,700 Apparently this is, I'm kind of Googling on the fly 1494 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:18,540 a little bit. 1495 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:19,820 There might be something that's come out recently 1496 00:55:19,820 --> 00:55:20,660 that maybe does this now. 1497 00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:21,480 - That's his company, ATP Tour. 1498 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,740 - I don't know how good it is for like, yes, have you? 1499 00:55:24,740 --> 00:55:25,780 Yeah. 1500 00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:28,700 - There was a, there was somebody that had done 1501 00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:32,060 a very similar thing for hockey and they were, 1502 00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:33,140 oh, well, let's see. 1503 00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:34,620 No, it was, I think it was baseball. 1504 00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:36,740 Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing hockey too, 1505 00:55:36,740 --> 00:55:38,900 but they had done baseball and they had done it really well, 1506 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,020 but they did it at a high level where they were going after 1507 00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:43,460 like college, like athletes and stuff. 1508 00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:44,300 - That's what this looks like too. 1509 00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:46,060 - Yeah, and same with the tennis one. 1510 00:55:46,060 --> 00:55:49,140 They're going after like, like high level. 1511 00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:50,420 Whereas I want to go-- 1512 00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:51,260 - Like Mario Kart. 1513 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:52,080 - Very bottom. 1514 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,940 I want to do, yeah, I want to make it like super gamified. 1515 00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:57,980 I want it to be for like six year olds. 1516 00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,440 - That's great. 1517 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,340 - I'm very focused on all of these six year old products. 1518 00:56:03,460 --> 00:56:06,420 - There was a cool, a student I was working with, 1519 00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:09,500 his research project was, they were taking, 1520 00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,300 we'll use tennis as the example, professional athletes, 1521 00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:14,700 Serena Williams, they asked Serena Williams, 1522 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:15,660 I'm just making this up. 1523 00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:18,500 Hey, can we put like different electrodes and whatever 1524 00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:19,820 on different muscles on your body 1525 00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:21,500 and then just watch you do some forehand 1526 00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:22,860 and backhand on here? 1527 00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:24,900 They gathered all that data and then they were able 1528 00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,620 to put the electrodes on someone trying to learn tennis 1529 00:56:27,620 --> 00:56:29,900 and be like, okay, this is what, you know, 1530 00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:33,540 we're able to see what Serena Williams was doing for this. 1531 00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:34,900 This is what you need to focus on 1532 00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:36,500 on your forehand going through. 1533 00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:39,020 Just a hundred percent data driven, 1534 00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:41,460 trying to improve people's games going at it. 1535 00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:42,620 I don't think you want to put electrodes 1536 00:56:42,620 --> 00:56:44,660 on your VR headset, but I think that'd be interesting. 1537 00:56:44,660 --> 00:56:45,860 - Do you know what would be even cooler? 1538 00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:47,940 Is if instead of showing you, okay, 1539 00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:50,380 this is the difference between you and Serena. 1540 00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:54,060 If they could somehow like stimulate your muscles-- 1541 00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:55,100 - That's what I was going to say. 1542 00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:55,940 - Yeah. 1543 00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:57,780 - So that you actually did what Serena did 1544 00:56:57,780 --> 00:57:00,500 and it's like, oh, that's what it feels like. 1545 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,780 - At this point in the swing, she's already moving. 1546 00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:04,060 Yeah, you should be, yeah. 1547 00:57:04,060 --> 00:57:05,860 - That's probably also 10 years away, 1548 00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:07,260 but that would be really cool. 1549 00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:08,500 - That would be nuts. 1550 00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,660 We'll circle back on that in a couple of years. 1551 00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:13,220 - You got like a robot exosuit. 1552 00:57:13,220 --> 00:57:14,580 You just relax all your muscles 1553 00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,380 and you're in a robot exoskeleton 1554 00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:18,820 and it pilots and puppets you around 1555 00:57:18,820 --> 00:57:20,740 so that you get the feeling of where you should be. 1556 00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:22,900 - That's exactly where my head went, Leo. 1557 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:23,900 - Let's do that. 1558 00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:27,460 - I just slide into the suit and just-- 1559 00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:30,180 - What would it be like to be Michael Phelps? 1560 00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:31,260 - It's that Rick and Morty. 1561 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:32,940 You just, you wake up in the morning 1562 00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:33,980 and you have a six pack 1563 00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:36,460 'cause it's been exercising you all night long. 1564 00:57:36,460 --> 00:57:37,300 - Right. 1565 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:38,140 - Dude. 1566 00:57:38,140 --> 00:57:38,960 - I think there's something though, 1567 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,180 muscle memory training, right? 1568 00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:41,340 That's really what it is. 1569 00:57:41,340 --> 00:57:42,940 It's like, how do you get the muscle memory 1570 00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:45,300 as fast as possible, right? 1571 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:46,580 Wax on, wax off, dude. 1572 00:57:46,580 --> 00:57:49,380 Like, I mean, you can do military, 1573 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:51,140 like here's the thing, Chase. 1574 00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:52,540 Here's how you make a ton of money. 1575 00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:53,940 You sell it to the military 1576 00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:56,260 and you train all these six year old soldiers, right? 1577 00:57:56,260 --> 00:57:58,180 They, oh my God. 1578 00:57:58,180 --> 00:57:59,220 - Dude, that's awful. 1579 00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:00,820 (laughing) 1580 00:58:00,820 --> 00:58:03,060 - I'm just, we're here for the capitalism, right? 1581 00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:03,900 No? 1582 00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:04,740 It's just-- 1583 00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:05,560 (laughing) 1584 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,800 - As long as we make money. 1585 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,620 - Tennis, one way. 1586 00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:10,460 - I'm shaking my head. 1587 00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:11,300 - No. 1588 00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:12,120 (laughing) 1589 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,100 - My cool VR game just got bought by Raytheon. 1590 00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,340 (laughing) 1591 00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,260 - No, but I mean-- 1592 00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:20,100 - Don't worry. 1593 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:21,900 - Halliburton just put an offer in for my-- 1594 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:23,380 - Teach me how to fly an F-15 though. 1595 00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:24,620 Like, I'm all there. 1596 00:58:24,620 --> 00:58:26,860 Like, if the government wanted me to do some muscle memory 1597 00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:29,500 on like one of those fancy jets, like, all right, 1598 00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:32,740 I'll take the bait, you know? 1599 00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:33,580 (laughing) 1600 00:58:33,580 --> 00:58:35,060 - There you go. 1601 00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:36,620 - But no, I think you're like, yeah, 1602 00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:37,900 there's something about muscle memory, 1603 00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:40,380 making it a game, or maybe you don't even make it look 1604 00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,180 like they're playing tennis or golf or hockey. 1605 00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:46,140 All of a sudden they acquire these, like, 1606 00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,300 skills to be active in sports. 1607 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:49,660 And all of a sudden they're playing baseball 1608 00:58:49,660 --> 00:58:53,540 and they're like, holy cow, I'm killing it, you know? 1609 00:58:53,540 --> 00:58:55,140 - I love products that trick you 1610 00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:57,020 into learning something, right? 1611 00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:57,860 - Mm-hmm. 1612 00:58:57,860 --> 00:58:58,700 - Yeah. 1613 00:58:58,700 --> 00:58:59,520 - Yeah. 1614 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,580 - Math Blaster, you guys ever play Math Blaster 1615 00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:02,420 when you were a kid? 1616 00:59:02,420 --> 00:59:03,540 - Oh, yeah. - Oh, hell yeah. 1617 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:04,700 - That game was legit. 1618 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,860 (laughing) 1619 00:59:05,860 --> 00:59:08,860 - So it reminds me of like, but for sports. 1620 00:59:08,860 --> 00:59:09,820 (laughing) 1621 00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:10,820 Not for math. 1622 00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:13,340 - Math Blaster but for sports is great 1623 00:59:13,340 --> 00:59:15,500 because I have a feeling that those 1624 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,620 are diametrically opposed ideas. 1625 00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:18,460 - Chase, what did you call it? 1626 00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,060 What did you call your tennis trainer? 1627 00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,700 - I didn't have a, I bought the domain Level Zero Tennis. 1628 00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:28,000 But I didn't have, I didn't get far enough 1629 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,940 to like actually name it, like anything. 1630 00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:33,980 Yeah, I mean, I've got a prototype somewhere around. 1631 00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:34,940 - You bought the domain. 1632 00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:36,140 - The physics. 1633 00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:39,180 - Buying the domain is the first step in any project. 1634 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:40,660 We are right there with you. 1635 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:41,940 I've got like 50. 1636 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:45,060 - Level Zero Tennis. 1637 00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:46,340 - That's great, yeah. 1638 00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:48,580 - Dude, like, Wii Tennis doesn't work, huh? 1639 00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:50,340 It does not work. 1640 00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:51,180 - Nope. 1641 00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:54,180 - No, 'cause like my kid can still go like this 1642 00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:55,980 and swing it like an idiot. 1643 00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:59,620 And it worked fine in Wii Tennis. 1644 00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:02,460 I need him to like actually learn how to swing the racket. 1645 01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:04,740 - Bowling, you could, like for bowling. 1646 01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:06,380 I'm just thinking, now thinking-- 1647 01:00:06,380 --> 01:00:08,500 - There's a ton of applications for this. 1648 01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:09,340 This is cool. 1649 01:00:09,340 --> 01:00:12,540 - What is it, the, dude, have you seen like, 1650 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:16,760 I think there's a lot of like weird niche Olympic sports 1651 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,600 that would like love to get more people into the game 1652 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,140 and just, or like, I feel like that you do this application, 1653 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,160 if you could develop the apps really quickly 1654 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,320 or the muscle training, that like all these Olympic sports 1655 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,760 would love it because, okay, I have this conspiracy theory 1656 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,120 a little bit, not really conspiracy, 1657 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,640 but like there are a lot of people 1658 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,400 that are really good athletes in, let's say, 1659 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,000 track and long jump or something, 1660 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,440 but can never, will never be gold medalists, 1661 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,400 so they try this completely out there, 1662 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,580 like, have you seen like the horseback shooting? 1663 01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:56,240 Do you guys remember this, like crazy, 1664 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,760 like you're like, how did this become an Olympic event? 1665 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,560 Like, I feel like you apply, like, okay, 1666 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,160 you're a great runner, we need you on horseback 1667 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,760 and shooting, right? 1668 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,520 Somehow that applies. 1669 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,000 And here, we're gonna put you in this VR headset 1670 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,760 and now we can get you from, you know, bronze medal 1671 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,320 because you're a great runner and it applies here 1672 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,800 to gold medal in this event because of like 1673 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,360 the constant training that you do 1674 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,080 and you're not gonna fatigue your muscles, 1675 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,280 you're not gonna do the same type of stuff. 1676 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,840 Like, I see this being like a next stage 1677 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,360 of sports development, like, I don't know, 1678 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,320 there's like, especially when you don't have to actually 1679 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,060 do the work, like physically tire yourself maybe. 1680 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,400 I don't know. 1681 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,520 - I think at some point to be a world class Olympian, 1682 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,440 you probably have to start tiring your body 1683 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,280 a little bit here and there. 1684 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,120 - Not for no reason. 1685 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,560 - You're gonna train an Olympian who's not even trying. 1686 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,920 - Have you seen? 1687 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,560 - I've only done curling in VR, 1688 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,360 but I guess I'm a gold medalist now. 1689 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,560 (laughing) 1690 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,200 - This is how we're gonna train our future pilots, 1691 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,240 it's gonna be great. 1692 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,360 - Guys, it's not for the events that anybody really knows, 1693 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,680 it's for the events that are like, what? 1694 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,520 - The luge. 1695 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,160 - I mean. - The luge. 1696 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,440 - No one's ever watched the luge. 1697 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,440 - As Greg Geraldo said, you could be dead 1698 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,360 and be pretty good at the luge. 1699 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,560 You could be dead, right? 1700 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,720 - I like the idea of Netflix suggestions 1701 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,360 for alternative Olympic sports. 1702 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,640 I think that's great. 1703 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,120 - You keep trying in the 500 meter, but. 1704 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,480 - You're pretty good at running, but you might be great 1705 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,960 at these other sports. 1706 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,960 - There was a comedian whose name escapes me who said, 1707 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,440 I'm willing to bet the top 100 pole vaulters in the world 1708 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,640 are not aware of it. 1709 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,880 (laughing) 1710 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,480 - That's exact, yes. 1711 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,480 Oh my gosh. 1712 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,120 - Thanks so much for listening. 1713 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,080 We hope you enjoyed yourself. 1714 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,000 And thank you so much, Chase, you were amazing. 1715 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,840 That was wonderful. 1716 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,680 - Yeah, thanks for having me. 1717 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,640 I hope we can do it again. 1718 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,080 - One more time. 1719 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,200 That's computerengineeringforbabies.com. 1720 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,240 If you have anyone in your life that you know 1721 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,600 that has a young child who is also a inclination 1722 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,640 to be a nerd. 1723 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,280 - You wanna plug anything, Chase? 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