1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:08,040 I'm Scott. I'm Russell. I'm Leo. This is Spitball. 2 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:21,800 Welcome to Spitball where three venture visionaries and a guest empty their heads of 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,980 startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. 4 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:30,660 Anything that we say is yours to keep. And Scott, I believe you brought our guest this week. 5 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:37,120 I did. I brought my coworker and friend, Drew Morgan. Drew is a mechanical product design 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,860 engineer at my work. He works on the advanced product development team. He's probably worked 7 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:47,540 on a thousand different early stage products and devices in his time here. And I'm very excited 8 00:00:47,540 --> 00:00:52,780 to have him. So welcome, Drew. Welcome. Hey, thanks. Good to be here. This is going to be so fun. 9 00:00:53,780 --> 00:00:57,800 This week, we're going to be doing another game where we're going to get ourselves warmed up here. I'm 10 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,920 calling this one. Will it send? We're going to go through I am services. You guys remember instant 11 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:10,360 messaging, how crucial that was to the world and how right. It's like schooler. Absolutely. Right. We 12 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,960 were of the age as middle millennials where like I would come home from school and spend time on 13 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,500 AOL instant messenger and all that. And I want to go through line by line here and pick a couple of 14 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:25,920 the favorites over the years and ask you guys, yes or no, does it still work? Can you download 15 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,880 and install and use these services? So for example, WhatsApp? Yes. Facebook bought it. It's huge 16 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,460 globally. Google Allo, like all other Google products was killed summarily. So of course we 17 00:01:36,460 --> 00:01:43,440 always start with our guest, Drew. I want to ask you about Skype. Skype was founded 20 years ago in 2003. 18 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:43,780 Wow. 19 00:01:43,780 --> 00:01:49,660 eBay owned it for a while. They were bought by Microsoft. MSN Messenger was folded into Skype and 20 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:56,480 they became one. Microsoft launched Teams in 2017. But does Skype itself still work? Yes or no? 21 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,520 I'm going to go with yes on this one. I think it does. 22 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,700 It totally does. You're absolutely right. For some reason, they had a 20-year head start on Zoom and 23 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:05,800 still didn't win. 24 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:10,940 I can't imagine why it still works. It was actually never that good. 25 00:02:10,940 --> 00:02:13,620 I can still hear the noises in my head. 26 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:13,880 It's really cumbersome. 27 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,620 The desktop. 28 00:02:14,620 --> 00:02:15,800 Do, do, do. 29 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Yeah, right. 30 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Yeah, it's not great, but you can download and install and use it today, even though they're 31 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,540 trying so hard to make Teams happen. It's not going to happen. Scott, have you heard of 32 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:27,540 Kik? K-I-K? 33 00:02:27,540 --> 00:02:28,260 Nope. 34 00:02:28,260 --> 00:02:34,200 Kik was launched as, well, it was relaunched. It was originally a music sharing service. But in 2010, 35 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,020 it was launched as a messaging app. And in May of 2016, they announced that they had approximately 36 00:02:39,020 --> 00:02:47,260 300 million registered users. And they were used by 40% of United States teenagers in 2016. 37 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:51,340 I know. Apparently, we were just too old. And there's probably a lot of younger people saying, 38 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:54,880 yeah, of course, Kik. I kicked my friends or whatever. But yeah. 39 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Dated ourselves. Okay. 40 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,900 I know. This whole thing happened right under our noses. But does it still work today? 41 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:06,120 I feel like a 2016. If Skype's around, Kik's got to be around. I'm going to say yes. 42 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,380 Kik still works. It was, actually, it did shut down in like 2019, but then they relaunched. 43 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:15,320 Somebody else bought the company and now it's back around again. I'm going to count relaunches as, 44 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,820 yes, that does count. 45 00:03:16,820 --> 00:03:17,380 Cool. 46 00:03:17,380 --> 00:03:21,900 Russell, I'm sure you know because you're hip and trendy with the hashtag teens about Yik Yak, 47 00:03:22,460 --> 00:03:26,940 anonymous location-based posting service that launched in 2013. It was popular on college 48 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:34,480 campuses. They had a very famous cyberbullying problem. Usage peaked around 2014, 2015, but do 49 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,560 they still exist today? 50 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,460 They came up, they shut down, they came up again, and I think they shut down again. So I'm saying 51 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:41,940 no. 52 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:49,020 They did get shut down in 2017. They did relaunch in 2021, and they still exist today. You can use 53 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:50,840 them right now. So not quite. 54 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Russell is the troll I'm kicking. 55 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,860 Very close to being detailed. 56 00:03:55,860 --> 00:04:01,100 Russell, despite all your hard work, your cyberbullying just hasn't shut it down a second time. 57 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:04,520 It looks like I can get back online, boys. 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Yeah, it's time to get back. 59 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,940 Put on the Anon mask, yeah. 60 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,060 Don't find my username. 61 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:13,960 Drew, did you ever own a BlackBerry? 62 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,120 I never did, no. I actually went to college and there were Palm Pilots. 63 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,460 Yeah, I love the Palm Trio, for sure. 64 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:26,120 And I had a little flip pad paper, and I called it my Palm Pilot in order to poke fun at the other 65 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,820 students that were rich and had Palm Pilots. 66 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:34,120 My next door neighbor in the dorm rooms, when iPhones were starting to become popular and 67 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,400 everything had sent from my iPhone in the signature, he made his email signature sent from 68 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,960 my really cool laptop. That always cracked me up. 69 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,940 BlackBerrys were good at a lot of things, but one of the things that they had that was especially 70 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:52,100 key for their success was BlackBerry Messenger, BBM. It was once exclusive to BlackBerry devices only 71 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:56,300 for like way too long, but then it opened up to other platforms. So you could download the 72 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:58,860 Android and iOS apps. Does it exist today? 73 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,460 Ooh, uh, you know, it sounds so far-fetched. 74 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:06,340 No, I'm gonna say no. 75 00:05:06,340 --> 00:05:09,540 It was shut down in 2019 permanently. You're absolutely right. 76 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:09,860 2019? 77 00:05:09,860 --> 00:05:11,480 I know! 78 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,280 That's too late. 79 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,000 It would have been the most valuable part of BlackBerry at this time. 80 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 All seven people were using it. We're very sad, I'm sure. 81 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,820 How do I export my messages, you know? 82 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:25,000 Into something. I don't even know what you'd bring them to. 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Yeah. 84 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Scott, the king, the goat. AOL Instant Messenger was started in 1997. 85 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,500 Oh, man. 86 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,720 But does it still exist today? 87 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,760 You can't, you can't kill AOL. Like, I feel like you could try and you just can't kill. 88 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,760 I'm gonna say they're still here. 89 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,400 They were shut down in 2017. 90 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,740 No! 91 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:45,920 Remember when they were bought by Verizon and Oath and that whole thing? 92 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,380 Yeah. 93 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:47,580 Oh, that's so sad. 94 00:05:47,580 --> 00:05:51,800 But it's sister app, not sister app, another one just like it. 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Russell, what about Yahoo Messenger, which was lost in 1998? Competitor to AIM. 96 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:03,600 Oh, no. Oh, no. You know what? Yahoo was like, it's still a thing. 97 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,400 They probably just bundle it in your email service and it still works somehow. 98 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,860 They got shut down in 2018. 99 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:11,280 Oh, my gosh. 100 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:14,660 Which means BBM BlackBerry Messenger survived both of them. 101 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:16,820 I was shocked. 102 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:17,760 Outlived AIM? 103 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,020 I know. 104 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:18,540 That's insane. 105 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:18,880 I know. 106 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,260 Oh, wow. 107 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:19,580 I know. 108 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:21,940 I have an AOL CD in the closet behind me. 109 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:22,700 Do you really? 110 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:23,740 Yeah. 111 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:25,240 That's fantastic. 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,260 Yeah, you could get about 20 of them every time you walked out of a Target, if I remember 113 00:06:29,260 --> 00:06:29,520 right. 114 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,820 Go use them as Frisbees. 115 00:06:30,820 --> 00:06:31,540 A stack of them. 116 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:34,580 I'm gonna use that for an art project, but I never got around to it. 117 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:35,120 There you go. 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,840 It's its own little treasure now. 119 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,160 It might be worth something on eBay. 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,900 You should check it out. 121 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:40,760 Drew, chat roulette. 122 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:42,620 It launched in 2009. 123 00:06:42,620 --> 00:06:43,540 It was a website. 124 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:44,460 You go into it. 125 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:46,340 Oh, by the way, I wrote all these in past tense. 126 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:50,620 So it was a website that you would go and it would fire up your camera and microphone 127 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:52,680 and pair you up with a random user like Omegle. 128 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,280 You press a button to leave and be repaired with someone else immediately, which was good 129 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:58,280 because there were a lot of penises. 130 00:06:58,280 --> 00:06:59,280 A lot of penises. 131 00:06:59,280 --> 00:06:59,880 A lot of penises. 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:00,280 A lot. 133 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:01,380 It doesn't still exist today. 134 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:01,940 Ooh. 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,200 I haven't tried that. 136 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,660 I haven't tried that in a long time, but I did use to chat roulette occasionally. 137 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:07,300 Same. 138 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:09,440 No penises though. 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,340 I always was lucky too. 140 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:12,660 Yeah. 141 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:13,380 I don't know. 142 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:14,260 I was lucky. 143 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,600 I'm going to say maybe they shut down. 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Chat roulette usage doubled during COVID. 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,220 They are more popular than ever. 146 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:27,380 I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 147 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:27,980 Yeah, I was surprised. 148 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:28,220 All right. 149 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:30,420 I'm going to chat roulette after this and see what's up there. 150 00:07:30,420 --> 00:07:31,300 Maybe don't. 151 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:32,540 Especially not at night. 152 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:33,420 Not with me. 153 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:35,980 I feel like COVID made or broke a lot of these. 154 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:37,540 Hey, it's daytime somewhere. 155 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:38,080 Right. 156 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Scott, you may recall that your and my good friend Russell Fyfe tried for a hot minute to 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,560 make Voxer happen. 158 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,900 Voxer is a push to talk walkie talkie group chat app that launched in 2007. 159 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:50,600 Oh, wow. 160 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,700 It's kind of a chat thing, but you like push and hold and you're sending audio messages 161 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:55,880 to each other and they went live to everyone else. 162 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Kind of Nextel phone style. 163 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Does it still exist today? 164 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,940 I have no idea, but my gut is no. 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 I feel like that one came up really quick and died really quick. 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Launched in 2007. 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Still kicking. 168 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,380 You can play with Voxer. 169 00:08:09,380 --> 00:08:10,840 Honestly, I'm happy for them. 170 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,400 That's awesome. 171 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,200 They kind of did a pivot to like business communication a little bit, but it's still a thing. 172 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,300 You could like use their SDK to make your construction site all use Voxer or whatever, I guess. 173 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:22,460 That actually is really cool. 174 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:23,740 My wife uses it. 175 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:23,980 Yeah. 176 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:24,320 Does she? 177 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,760 I hate it so much. 178 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,100 It's like all the worst parts of voicemail and then only that. 179 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:32,420 What does she use it for? 180 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:33,900 Work or friends or something else? 181 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:34,460 Yeah. 182 00:08:34,460 --> 00:08:34,840 Work. 183 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,380 Okay. 184 00:08:35,380 --> 00:08:36,320 Fascinating. 185 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,300 Is she like required to have the app for work or something? 186 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:44,920 No, it's just her and a friend slash business partner and they send messages back and forth 187 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,340 that way. 188 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:50,160 And they're like 15 minutes long and they're not talking about anything for most of it. 189 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,340 I just don't get it. 190 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:53,320 And it's always on speakerphone too. 191 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:53,580 Right. 192 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:54,700 It's never something you put it. 193 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:57,240 Well, maybe they've changed it, but it's always speakerphone. 194 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,440 It seems like the kind of thing that like, like what does it do better than just sending 195 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,620 an audio thing on iMessage or whatever? 196 00:09:03,620 --> 00:09:04,140 I don't know. 197 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:04,800 I don't get it. 198 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Lastly, Russell, I got a good one for you to finish this off. 199 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,140 The Facebook poke. 200 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:14,440 An early feature from 2004 that allowed somebody to go on Facebook and poke them. 201 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,600 That's all it did was it said, you've been poked by Russell. 202 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:19,740 It was a form of greeting, but does it still work today? 203 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:20,480 That's a good one. 204 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Oh man. 205 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,680 2004. 206 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,940 It was one of the first features that the platform had. 207 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:27,380 That was like why you went on Facebook. 208 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,080 So you would poke every day. 209 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,760 The back and forth. 210 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Poke streak. 211 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:32,660 Wow. 212 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:37,060 Probably some MBA at Facebook was like, this makes us no revenue. 213 00:09:37,060 --> 00:09:37,960 Let's kill it. 214 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 And so they probably killed it. 215 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:46,020 It is nowhere, anywhere in the UI, unless you go to facebook.com slash poke. 216 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,140 There's still a list of all your friends and you can send pokes and it sends a notification. 217 00:09:50,140 --> 00:09:51,620 It still works. 218 00:09:51,620 --> 00:09:52,060 What? 219 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:53,860 That's my public service. 220 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:57,820 Like journalism for this episode today is you guys all got to go and get all of your friends 221 00:09:57,820 --> 00:09:58,960 to see the notification. 222 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,260 You've just been poked. 223 00:10:00,260 --> 00:10:03,180 They have a whole page just for that? 224 00:10:03,180 --> 00:10:03,980 That's all it does. 225 00:10:03,980 --> 00:10:04,220 Yeah. 226 00:10:04,220 --> 00:10:05,140 Facebook.com slash poke. 227 00:10:05,140 --> 00:10:07,460 It's a list of all your people and press to poke. 228 00:10:07,460 --> 00:10:09,480 And 40 ads. 229 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,340 Yeah. 230 00:10:10,340 --> 00:10:12,840 But there's nowhere else that you can find it that I could see. 231 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Like all the news articles were saying that this is apparently resurging last May as popularity. 232 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,780 So maybe we're the last people to talk about it. 233 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:21,040 But I was amused. 234 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,860 That's what inspired this whole game. 235 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:24,340 It's like, hey, the poke. 236 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:24,780 Wow. 237 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:26,360 Time to poke some friends. 238 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,420 Which I think all three of you got two out of three, right? 239 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:29,360 So I guess it's a tie. 240 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Woo, tie. 241 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,340 Congratulations, everybody. 242 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:34,220 I think that means you have to start then, Leo. 243 00:10:34,220 --> 00:10:35,000 All right. 244 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,540 I'll go first. 245 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:37,180 If you guys aren't too sick of hearing me talk. 246 00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:38,680 My pitch this week. 247 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:45,040 So do you guys remember as a kid, there were the cheap, like, it's a little globe that has 248 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,120 a light bulb inside. 249 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,740 A little bit like a disco ball, but with just little pinpricks of light. 250 00:10:48,740 --> 00:10:51,780 And you'd get in a dark room and it would make like stars all over your wall. 251 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:52,260 Yeah. 252 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:56,900 I think that this could be modernized and turned into something really interactive and interesting. 253 00:10:57,220 --> 00:11:04,000 So I'm imagining small short throw projector on a base that has a swivel up, down, left, 254 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,060 right, pointing all around it, all the different screens. 255 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:10,980 And you could have that be movies or whatever, but I think it'd be really fun if you had a 256 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:15,620 software hardware thing that made the whole purpose of it be an interactive pet. 257 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:20,340 So you're setting it in the middle of the room and you've got this cute little Tamagotchi 258 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:26,720 frog or like a little puppy who's hopping around your walls and like snuggling with your kid 259 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,660 and all that kind of stuff. 260 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:30,900 But they're just on the wall and they're being whimsical and you can have fun like Disney 261 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:33,600 animations and things that aren't possible in the real life. 262 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,660 You know, ooh, he turned, he grew wings and flew up into the whatever, you know what I mean? 263 00:11:37,660 --> 00:11:42,800 Wouldn't it be neat if you could just like set down the one thing, it makes a rough 3D map 264 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,540 of the room and adjusts its skew proportionately so that it looked like it was like hopping 265 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,140 around the room and doing things. 266 00:11:50,140 --> 00:11:51,580 That's my whole pitch. 267 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:54,260 It's like a half-baked idea, but I think it'd be so cool. 268 00:11:54,260 --> 00:11:55,500 That is so cool. 269 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,140 So like projection mapped Tamagotchi. 270 00:11:58,140 --> 00:11:58,680 Yeah. 271 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:04,220 And maybe like every day you got to like bring it a little biscuit that you put in the box 272 00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:04,880 or something. 273 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,420 I don't know. 274 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:05,960 Yeah. 275 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,060 Leo, that is amazing. 276 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:09,180 That's a really good idea. 277 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:10,500 I don't know where it came from. 278 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:16,480 Friends come over and like, come, you have to go in the basement to see my pet, right? 279 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,240 I don't know. 280 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,140 I don't like the way you phrased that. 281 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,460 And then you murder them. 282 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:23,520 The basement. 283 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,460 I guess. 284 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:26,660 Sorry. 285 00:12:26,660 --> 00:12:29,180 I was like, I was like a elementary kid in my mind. 286 00:12:29,180 --> 00:12:30,520 Where's your pet? 287 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:32,260 It's in the walls. 288 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:32,360 It's in the walls. 289 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,860 He lives with people. 290 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:35,040 Yeah. 291 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,520 You could even have it be. 292 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,360 I don't know how good like compacts. 293 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,160 You always see those little cheap compact projectors that you could get on Amazon for a couple hundred 294 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,620 bucks, right? 295 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:46,180 Like, I don't know how miniature we could get with this thing, but it could be portable-ish, 296 00:12:46,180 --> 00:12:46,540 right? 297 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:52,320 It'd be like a night's little, oh, my unicorn read me my nighttime story tonight kind of thing 298 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,900 or something, you know? 299 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:55,600 Oh, my niece is obsessed with Frozen 2. 300 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,860 Never seen Frozen, but loves Frozen 2. 301 00:12:57,860 --> 00:13:01,780 And Elsa is like, you know, life and everything. 302 00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:05,840 And if you had an Elsa on the wall, like the same size as her, you could just interact 303 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,120 with. 304 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,340 That would be incredible. 305 00:13:07,340 --> 00:13:11,200 You know, the first thing that came to my mind is actually Peter Pan's shadow. 306 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:11,940 Yeah. 307 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,780 Like, it's kind of like a living being in the room, but it's confined to stick to the 308 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:17,460 walls and floor. 309 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,260 Totally. 310 00:13:18,260 --> 00:13:19,460 That would be cool. 311 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:20,180 Mm-hmm. 312 00:13:20,180 --> 00:13:26,240 We had a coworker, Dan Parker, who had a, he was working on something like this. 313 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,020 It was a handheld projector, but it just had like a laser line of sight where, you know, 314 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:34,900 it measured the exact distance from the wall and it would set its focal point depending on 315 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:36,420 wherever it was in the wall looking for. 316 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:39,260 I mean, the hardware and everything for this is here. 317 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:42,100 And if you're pointing at like the corner of a room, the thing. 318 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:45,940 The actual image that you would have to be projecting out would be bigger and kind of 319 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:48,100 skewed and weird looking if it was on a flat surface. 320 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:48,360 Yeah. 321 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,900 But you can do that math to where you're doing it. 322 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:51,260 Yep. 323 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:56,220 Rough approximation of like keeping it the same size and shape as it goes around. 324 00:13:56,220 --> 00:13:56,660 Absolutely. 325 00:13:56,660 --> 00:13:59,360 But then you need like a laser mapping system. 326 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,700 I feel like I've seen some museum experiences that have a badge you wear around your neck 327 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:08,460 and it does this like projecting onto things in the room that way. 328 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:09,280 That's cool. 329 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,480 That'd be cool. 330 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,540 How does that, what kind of content do they show for something like that? 331 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:14,460 It's escaping me. 332 00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:15,220 I don't remember. 333 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:16,200 That's really interesting. 334 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,580 You're going to watch on Mackinac now where you'll have some historical soldier telling 335 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:22,760 you the history of the fort and what we ate in the 1700s. 336 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,200 Okay. 337 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Very thrilling. 338 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Like a kids museum exhibit would be really neat with something like that. 339 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,540 And the brand, like you were saying, Elsa, like the brand tie-ins, you could partner with 340 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:38,500 Looney Tunes or whoever wants to get some advertisement for their cool new animated Paw Patrol movie or 341 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:39,060 something, right? 342 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:40,120 You're going to make this. 343 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,560 It's going to become super popular. 344 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,280 And then soon after, there's going to be a horror movie based on it. 345 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,680 I can't turn it off. 346 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,400 I can't turn it off. 347 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Put a blanket over it. 348 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,100 I think this is like the coolest nightlight ever. 349 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:58,980 I feel like you're going to, if this is going to get made one day, Leo, whether you build it or not. 350 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:00,340 It's just one of those things. 351 00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:04,280 I feel like if you just plug it into an outlet, it becomes a nightlight in the room. 352 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,960 It tells stories. 353 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,420 You could put like the whole, what is it? 354 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:09,640 Skylander stuff. 355 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:15,020 You can buy different toys and you put it on top and then it projects it into the room. 356 00:15:15,020 --> 00:15:15,700 That's good. 357 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,100 Now you got insane monetization. 358 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:23,240 Even in standby mode, it could just be doing like a little soft red dot on the wall and that's my nightlight. 359 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,460 And it's bubbles that slowly go around the room while I'm sleeping or something. 360 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:33,080 There's all kinds of animation potential when you take the space you're in and you have free reign to augment it. 361 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,780 Your target markets are endless. 362 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:36,360 Okay, but here's the big question. 363 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Is it internet connected? 364 00:15:38,820 --> 00:15:41,520 If you need to download the content and stuff, I guess. 365 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,060 But that does open up a lot of scary. 366 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:48,780 Oh no, the Russians got my projector and now the scary stuff's happening on my wall. 367 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:49,420 Yeah. 368 00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:55,880 You can buy like physical chips, like maybe like video game cartridges or something. 369 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Yeah, like a Yoto player, I think is a product out there that does that. 370 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,640 It's a connected online system, but the only way to interact with it is through physical cards. 371 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:15,440 It's a little cube that's a speaker so you can set as apparent like this tile when you touch it to the speaker cube, honey, sets your audio book. 372 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:22,160 Or this one reads you a story and this one is the branded tie-in with Disney that tells you the Lion King, whatever. 373 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:29,020 Yeah, that's the kind of model that it seems like companies are a little bit more open to making those deals, like the content owners. 374 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:37,980 That'd be so cool to like sit in front of like even just like a small projector and like now you have the story that you're going to read with your kid. 375 00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:41,380 It's like you put a little rug around it, becomes story time. 376 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:43,420 It doesn't feel like you're watching TV. 377 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:46,280 It feels like, it doesn't feel like screen time, right? 378 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,640 And so short little three minute things. 379 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,520 The storybook characters hopping around your wall on wall to wall, like the whole space. 380 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,480 That's the thing. 381 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,680 It's not fixed. 382 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,880 I'm not sitting on the couch. 383 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 I'm like, it's all around me. 384 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,360 And that's like the best part is that your market is so open to this. 385 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:13,360 Like you have the children's version, put like Cortana or something in there and turn it into Siri or something and just have it like, hey, this is who I interact with instead of this, you know, random device on my desk. 386 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:16,840 It's such a much better experience too than like a small screen. 387 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:25,180 A lot of home assistants have like you're, there's no reason that your pet, Tamagotchi, dog, whatever it is, can't also tell you what the weather's going to be. 388 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:26,140 Exactly. 389 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:27,840 And if it's internet connected, yeah. 390 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,640 Oh, true. 391 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:34,440 You're sitting in your home office and you're just talking at the wall and the wall's talking back at you. 392 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Yeah. 393 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,820 You forgot to email Bob about those blueprints or whatever. 394 00:17:37,820 --> 00:17:39,100 Ooh. 395 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:44,140 I wonder if you could do some directional speakers to really like kind of make it sound like the wall is talking. 396 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:47,400 We have standards for 360 audio, like the Dolby Atmos stuff. 397 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Totally. 398 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:48,320 Yeah. 399 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,500 That would be maybe a little kind of breaking point of realism is where the sound is coming 400 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:52,660 from. 401 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:53,160 That's true. 402 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,660 Yeah. 403 00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:54,420 Unless you did it. 404 00:17:54,420 --> 00:17:55,020 Yeah. 405 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:58,600 Put a couple of satellite Sonos speakers around the room that it's talking to or something. 406 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,160 That'd be sweet. 407 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Dude, I wonder if you could make us a version. 408 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:03,740 Like it's a little cheaper. 409 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:09,360 Like if you want to go really cheap with it, but you have like kind of like a music box with like, 410 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,680 I don't know if this is a little crazy, but like a ribbon that casts shadows across the 411 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,600 wall over a light. 412 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,100 Oh yeah. 413 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:19,520 And then that way it can like plays a movie almost from the project instead of having like 414 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,120 a film projector. 415 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:20,680 Yeah. 416 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Like a, but it's just a light with shadows. 417 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Right. 418 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,820 And so it like moves across the screen and maybe plays a song. 419 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:27,320 That's fun. 420 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,640 Before you go to the full 3d model, like the 3d version with audio, like all the bells and 421 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:32,900 whistles. 422 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:36,960 Cause I'm how expensive and how hard is like a short throw projector? 423 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,460 Those are like ridiculous, right? 424 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,980 They've come down, but you're still talking many hundreds, if not a grand or two. 425 00:18:41,980 --> 00:18:42,220 Yeah. 426 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:42,940 Yeah. 427 00:18:42,940 --> 00:18:45,620 Well, the engineers will fix that one, right? 428 00:18:45,620 --> 00:18:48,120 Make it cheap. 429 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:49,320 I mean, or Timu. 430 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,660 I've got some ideas. 431 00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:57,500 It actually brings to mind the Microsoft Surface, not the tablet, but the other one, which has 432 00:18:57,500 --> 00:19:00,160 like a bunch of these weird pillars that go up and down. 433 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,820 I think it was also called Surface. 434 00:19:01,820 --> 00:19:02,180 Yep. 435 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:02,620 Yep. 436 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:02,920 Yep. 437 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Am I wrong about this? 438 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,940 The original table thing. 439 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,820 Is that a random James Bond movie where they're like touching the table and throwing pictures 440 00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:11,120 back and forth on the surface? 441 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,000 Or is that just something else? 442 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,160 They tried really hard to promote it in a movie. 443 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,500 They wanted, I think you're right. 444 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:20,640 They wanted like hotel lobbies and restaurants to have this as their table and stuff. 445 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,840 And they had a bunch of cool demos, but I don't think it ever really caught on. 446 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:31,020 Anyway, there's like a particular kind of, I don't know, voxelized physical display that 447 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:37,400 probably could be amenable to your shadow puppetry idea that you just said of like somehow actually 448 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,920 flipping little windows in a ribbon that kind of creates that shadow on the wall. 449 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Absolutely. 450 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,140 I don't know. 451 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,880 Like you're doing shadow puppets, but it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 452 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,460 Like a grid. 453 00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:49,520 It's not a projector really. 454 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,900 It's a shadow project. 455 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:51,400 Yeah. 456 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,940 I mean, liquid crystal displays are the backlight shining through. 457 00:19:54,940 --> 00:19:59,740 What if you just had like a really bright projector bulb with liquid crystal layer going on? 458 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,080 Yeah. 459 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,600 There you go. 460 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,660 To make it small, you have to have a very tiny LED. 461 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:04,980 So it's a point source. 462 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:06,620 So you don't get blurry shadows. 463 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:08,000 But we have those now. 464 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,260 LEDs are fantastic. 465 00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:13,920 Unless you build the blur into your animations and it's a wispy little ghost. 466 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Back to your Peter Pan shadow. 467 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,460 Yeah. 468 00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:17,640 Yes. 469 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Yes. 470 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,960 It's the cloud around the image. 471 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,540 Yeah. 472 00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:22,320 Blobby. 473 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,100 He's my amorphous shadowy friend that lives in the walls. 474 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,900 You're getting institutionalized. 475 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:31,420 Smudge is my favorite. 476 00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:31,920 Smudge. 477 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:38,280 All right, Russell, you're up next. 478 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,140 What do you got for us this week? 479 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:39,960 All right. 480 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:47,700 So I have been in painting my basement, doing a lot of work, and I have been drying my walls 481 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,100 with a ton of box fans. 482 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,500 And I started to think about this. 483 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:57,180 Like, and I guess you guys have probably seen this, like the box fan mods for like AC units, 484 00:20:57,180 --> 00:21:01,800 you connect it to a cooler and you run like copper coils through it. 485 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,780 And like, yeah, there's like a bunch of mods. 486 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:11,340 I guess I was thinking, why don't we create a bunch of mods for the box fan as add-ons to 487 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:12,440 a line of products. 488 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,500 A standard box fan. 489 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:13,740 Yeah. 490 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,560 So you can use it as a filter. 491 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,220 Maybe you attach like, you can provide a special hose attachment that connects to your window 492 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:27,260 to help with the, you know how sometimes you throw a box fan in a window and shut the window 493 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:27,660 on it? 494 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:29,280 And it never works. 495 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,020 It falls out. 496 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,720 It never works. 497 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,800 It always does. 498 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,980 Interesting. 499 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:34,360 So you would create the mods. 500 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:39,000 You would, you would provide, you'd be a provider of all the different $20 accessories to the 501 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,280 $20 box fan. 502 00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:45,480 And now you can have an air filter, like a real, you can, if you throw an air filter, 503 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,660 like an HVAC air filter on there, I mean, you have a pretty solid air filter running on 504 00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:51,160 a box fan. 505 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,500 I told Scott about this, but University of Michigan did a study during COVID when people were really 506 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:56,920 worried about how to keep air clean. 507 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,420 And, uh, they tested a bunch of off the shelf, like the leading brands of air filter or whatever. 508 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:06,240 And the best performing one was a box fan with a 20 by 20 HVAC filter strapped to the 509 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,500 back. 510 00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:12,180 It moved more air and got more stuff through it than like all these $300 home for filter 511 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:13,060 systems and stuff. 512 00:22:13,060 --> 00:22:17,520 So, yeah, I'm so happy to hear that because that was the entirety of my concrete dust prevention 513 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,740 strategy at my old business that I ran. 514 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:20,300 It's great. 515 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:21,460 It does work super well. 516 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:22,300 It's kind of loud. 517 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:26,260 Like even on the low setting, the sound of a box fan with something up against it is pretty 518 00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:30,900 noisy, but I 3d printed some little like clips that just held onto it. 519 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:32,220 It was super, super great. 520 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:32,520 Yeah. 521 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,180 That's the idea. 522 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:37,560 I think that's the key to it too, is you just have clips that'll fit on like any type 523 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,340 of box fan, just like the panel grid on front. 524 00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:41,620 It doesn't matter the orientation. 525 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:42,980 They're all pretty much the same size. 526 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:43,280 Yeah. 527 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,400 I'm sure they're in weird orientations and stuff compared to each other, but you could 528 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,780 make something. 529 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:51,880 If you want to hook onto the grate, then probably, but just, I think like they're all the same 530 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,500 width and depth and height more or less. 531 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:54,880 Yeah. 532 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,900 Box fans are pretty universally about $1 per inch of diameter. 533 00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:02,660 It's the cheapest price per inch of diameter that you can get from a fan. 534 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:08,540 But as long as you can make some assumptions about the dimensions of the unit itself, you can 535 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,800 have things grab onto the exterior of it and hook up to it. 536 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Yeah. 537 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Some kind of clamp system. 538 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Yeah. 539 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:19,580 Just like phone clamps, you know, like in your car, there's the whole setup thing. 540 00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:20,460 That's it. 541 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:23,540 So you've got your copper tubing that makes it cooler. 542 00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:24,920 Got the AC version. 543 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Yeah. 544 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,760 You have the connects to the window. 545 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Okay. 546 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Maybe, or somehow like you want to get, let's say a bathroom that doesn't have a fan. 547 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,800 There you go. 548 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,180 You could throw a box fan on it and create a system that allows for air to go out, but 549 00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:41,240 not to go in. 550 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,380 A one-way valve. 551 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:43,620 Just like anywhere you want ventilation. 552 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:43,900 Yeah. 553 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,580 A one-way valve with a vent attached. 554 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:46,020 Yeah. 555 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:48,180 Those little louvers, little flaps. 556 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:48,540 Yeah. 557 00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:53,100 One of those like dryer hose things that you can just extend it to where you want 558 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:53,420 to go. 559 00:23:53,420 --> 00:23:53,800 Yeah. 560 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,820 I mean, you can get like, you can hang it on a wall if maybe, I know this sounds a little 561 00:23:57,820 --> 00:24:02,900 tense, but like you could put maybe vent, like it could be a form of ventilation in your 562 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:03,140 home. 563 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:06,020 If you put the right, you know, make it not look like a box fan. 564 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:10,400 I don't know, like do some stuff to hide it or allow for circulation. 565 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,640 I just feel like even more like my house is kind of old, so it'd be cool to add a box 566 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,540 fan to certain vents without it looking like a giant box fan that's going to fall over at 567 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:20,980 any moment. 568 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:26,500 To just move some of the AC that's down in my basement, let's say, or my first floor up 569 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:27,480 to my second floor. 570 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:34,340 These HVAC things are basically, it seems like a bigger version of a box fan, like a super 571 00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:37,960 box fan that moves all the ventilation in my house. 572 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,160 Like, I feel like you could create a whole setup in your house. 573 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,100 So one of your products is you cut a notch out of the duct work and you slide a box fan 574 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:52,600 into it and hold it with the clip and the kit and you've created like a, like a booster. 575 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Yeah. 576 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,700 I like that. 577 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:54,040 Yeah. 578 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,140 Or maybe if it's, if you need to be in the room, you have a little duct that goes down 579 00:24:58,140 --> 00:24:59,020 to your floor vent. 580 00:24:59,020 --> 00:25:01,840 And so it just, all the air sucks up out of the floor vent. 581 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,420 Like your thing, Scott. 582 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:04,140 Yeah. 583 00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:06,360 That's, I have just literally turned it off a second ago. 584 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,700 You have a thing? 585 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,160 Yeah. 586 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,340 But it's way more than $20. 587 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:11,020 Yes, it is. 588 00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:13,520 You want to describe your, you know, your thing? 589 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:13,900 Yeah. 590 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,660 It's a little, I have terrible heating and cooling in my office. 591 00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:21,880 And so there's just a little, like, it's like a PC fan that puts on top of my vent and 592 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,880 when it detects the air is flowing through it, it just turns on and forces more air into 593 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,300 my room versus the rest of the house. 594 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,000 It's very clever, but also you're right. 595 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,540 Expensive. 596 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:30,760 It acts as a pull. 597 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,340 It pulls more air out of it. 598 00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:33,300 Oh, sick. 599 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,380 So there you go. 600 00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:35,200 Box fan attachment. 601 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,260 Box fan attachment? 602 00:25:36,260 --> 00:25:36,980 Box mods. 603 00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:37,920 Seriously though. 604 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,140 So the whole thing goes as one big unit over the vent and like- 605 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:42,140 Funnels down into it. 606 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:43,960 Mega blasts into the, that's- 607 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,500 That's a really good one. 608 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:46,040 So I tried Scott's product. 609 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,880 I bought one too. 610 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,620 It didn't work for my kind of house very well. 611 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:53,680 But if I could take literal box fan, slide it into the thing that we're selling, which is 612 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,840 a shell that goes over and into the vent and like mega pulls it out. 613 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,460 And yeah, your thing but box fan would be sick. 614 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:05,140 No other room in the house would get any air. 615 00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:07,960 I also have one of those things. 616 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Nice. 617 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,740 Does it work for your house? 618 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,300 It does. 619 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:12,980 This is such an easy idea to start too, Russell. 620 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:17,180 All you need is like time and a 3D printer and a basic website. 621 00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:20,540 And you could make a, you know, half a dozen different things like you just came up with. 622 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:23,620 I think the size scale, you might want to invest in a small vacuum former. 623 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:25,440 Like those are pretty cheap. 624 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Yeah. 625 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,520 What's that mean? 626 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,360 What's a vacuum? 627 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,620 Oh, like a vacuum forming. 628 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,460 Like it sucks. 629 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:37,540 You heat up the sheet of plastic and it sucks it down over a mold to create a thin, large 630 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:39,160 sturdy, you know, part. 631 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,860 You can cut out sections of it afterwards. 632 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,480 3D printing, but a little more permanent. 633 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,140 Not quite an injection mold. 634 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:46,580 Yeah, right. 635 00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:47,860 It's way cheaper. 636 00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:48,980 The tooling is way cheap. 637 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:50,740 You can make the tooling out of literally anything. 638 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:51,780 You can make it out of cardboard. 639 00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:52,520 Okay. 640 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,020 I got some crazy ideas that maybe you guys would know. 641 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:02,300 So what it, could you make a box fan as powerful as a vacuum and create a vacuum out of a box 642 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:06,000 fan or, uh, just up the voltage. 643 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,840 It'll do it. 644 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,780 Yeah. 645 00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:08,760 Like, I don't know. 646 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Or like if you set, if you create the right, uh, like weird ass oblong shapes and sizes to 647 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:23,040 it or, uh, a shop vac, you know, I guess, I guess what I was saying is, could you go crazy 648 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,940 or a water pump? 649 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:26,300 Like what if you unscrew the whole box fan? 650 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:27,420 All right. 651 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,400 Put it in your pool. 652 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Use the, you figure out the whole rotary system and you just attach like these five clips to 653 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,700 the fan and it spins to create a pump. 654 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:46,080 Like, could you go one step further and literally unscrew the five screws or on a box fan, attach 655 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,020 something to it. 656 00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:53,380 And now I'm like, yeah, I have my box fan vacuum for $40, but it works. 657 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,520 And I'm, and listen, I'll throw it out. 658 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,580 Look out Dyson. 659 00:27:56,580 --> 00:28:02,700 Russell, you once said that the electric lawnmowers are just like putting a box fan on wheels and 660 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:03,840 pushing it around your yard. 661 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,260 Like, let's just do it. 662 00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:08,040 Let's put some casters on it and turn it into a Roomba. 663 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,420 Yep. 664 00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:08,960 Metal blades. 665 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,200 You put metal blades on a box fan and you have a straight up Sun Joe on Amazon for $80. 666 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Or casters and some metal blades. 667 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,200 You can put a bag on top, dude. 668 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,760 It would suck the grass in too. 669 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,640 Like, it would work. 670 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Now you need a second box fan on top for that. 671 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,680 Box fans used to have metal blades, right? 672 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,060 Maybe when the ones that would rattle? 673 00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:30,120 Yeah, back in the day. 674 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:30,660 Basically there. 675 00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:32,100 He's buying old one on eBay. 676 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,840 He recycled them into our Sun Joes. 677 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,620 Disposable. 678 00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:41,140 Well, you can edit out this comment from the mechanical engineer, but one of the features 679 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:46,160 that a box fan has going for it that makes it quite safe is that there's big gaps in the 680 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,340 corners where the fan doesn't touch the walls. 681 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:53,380 So even if you lay it down on the floor, it just churns air through those gaps and back into 682 00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:56,280 itself and doesn't like burn up the motor. 683 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,480 So they actually cannot build up hardly any pressure from behind or in front of them. 684 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,520 The vacuum cleaner idea would be a stretch, but if you chain a bunch of them together, you 685 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,140 might get there. 686 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:11,980 Or could Russell's attachment cover those inlets and create that extra suction? 687 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:14,100 You've got a backpack with like six... 688 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,400 I may or may not have tried that out of cardboard once. 689 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,940 Just trying to blow up a bunch. 690 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:19,960 And Drew, did it work? 691 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,860 That's the question. 692 00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:22,040 Did it kind of work? 693 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 I don't know. 694 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320 It's top secret. 695 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,420 The government doesn't want you to know now. 696 00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:31,740 It's just Drew's sworn to secrecy. 697 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:32,700 James Dyson. 698 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:33,700 He's going to kill you. 699 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,520 That's the box fan that had the air filter on it to protect me from concrete death. 700 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,180 Oh, you see? 701 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:41,340 I have two box fans I'm looking at right now. 702 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:44,420 I'm like, man, I could chain them together and create a... 703 00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:44,720 What? 704 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,140 What are those called? 705 00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:47,160 Super box fans? 706 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,340 The boats that fly on the water. 707 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:52,140 Like a hovercraft? 708 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:53,980 Or a swamp boat? 709 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:56,060 New Orleans swamp running around? 710 00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:56,880 Yes. 711 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,060 That's one fan. 712 00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:02,940 I got eight box fans and a buoy. 713 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,620 You know, I've seen giant walls of PC fans. 714 00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:08,560 You can make an even gianter wall of box fans. 715 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,720 Yeah, you could for pretty cheap. 716 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Yeah, real cheap. 717 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,240 It's cheaper than bricks. 718 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,820 It's cheaper than bricks by a lot. 719 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,340 And if you get them all pointed at a little bit of an angle, you can make a tornado. 720 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:24,900 Like, guys, what if your screen door at your old... 721 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,420 You know that one house that you lived at with no AC? 722 00:30:27,420 --> 00:30:29,800 I want a screen door of box fans. 723 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Three box fans stacked on top of each other. 724 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Did you say you did that? 725 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Right. 726 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,280 Yeah, we did that in college. 727 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Really? 728 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,340 We did several of these in college where we took, you know, the copper tubing. 729 00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:46,380 We ran a cooler full of ice that siphoned water through the tooling and then just had the cool air going out. 730 00:30:46,380 --> 00:30:47,040 And it worked. 731 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,000 We had a door that we replaced with box fans coming inward. 732 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,680 It was so hard to make the damn thing that by the time you're like, get it, you know, you're using it. 733 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,140 You're like, oh, this is kind of sucky. 734 00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:58,380 I wish I had put two hours of my time into it. 735 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:00,560 And that's the service your company provides. 736 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,100 20 bucks more, you get AC. 737 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,200 20 bucks more, it's battery powered. 738 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,680 20 bucks more. 739 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,300 Triple A's only. 740 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:08,440 Like mosquitoes. 741 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,400 Can you imagine? 742 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,080 Guys, a bunch of these around a campfire to kill mosquitoes. 743 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,100 Hmm. 744 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,820 Put a little zapper on it. 745 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,700 Well, you've seen those fire tornadoes, right? 746 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:18,960 Yeah. 747 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,340 Yeah. 748 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:21,560 Fire tornado. 749 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,620 I like the bug zapper idea. 750 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:24,540 You put the mesh. 751 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:24,820 Okay. 752 00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:25,760 Bug zapper on a box fan. 753 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,800 That would be really good. 754 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,100 Yeah. 755 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:30,200 Guys, I'm on the fly with this stuff right now. 756 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,660 I'm like, this is. 757 00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:32,060 You're going. 758 00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:33,940 We need an open marketplace. 759 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,940 We just open source this and everybody just. 760 00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:37,180 Lasco. 761 00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:38,560 Lasco, pay attention. 762 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,800 But what's your company called, Russell? 763 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,760 That Roku competitor from a long time ago called Boxy Box is folded so you could make the Boxy Box. 764 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,480 That's a good name. 765 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,380 Boxy Box. 766 00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:50,600 Ooh, hear me out on this one. 767 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Open fan. 768 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:53,260 What about box dazzled? 769 00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:54,080 Ooh. 770 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,940 The dazzle of your box. 771 00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:57,240 You're box dazzling mine. 772 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240 I bought this one just to box dazzle. 773 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960 I didn't even have it already. 774 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,960 Mom, I bought you a box dazzle. 775 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,340 Oh, which one? 776 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:07,620 Oh, man. 777 00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:11,500 Oh, yeah. 778 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:13,400 All right, Scott. 779 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Let's hear your idea this week. 780 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,900 All right. 781 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:24,380 So we have a dryer, a washer and dryer that is probably one of the most annoying devices on the planet Earth. 782 00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:29,040 It is very, it really wants your attention all the time. 783 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:41,200 And if a load is complete, if the door is left open, if you've hit a button on it and haven't hit like a second button to finish whatever you started, every 30 seconds, it'll give out a little doo-doo, doo-doo. 784 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,260 It's horrible. 785 00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:43,080 What? 786 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:48,020 I've also learned that it is extremely motivating to turn it off. 787 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:57,420 Just like if you have like a seatbelt and you're driving and you don't plug in your seatbelt and like it'll just beep again and again until you are so pissed that you're just like, fine, I will do it. 788 00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:57,980 I will do it. 789 00:32:57,980 --> 00:33:00,620 I move my car up the driveway, but like... 790 00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:01,280 Or the microwave. 791 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,140 My food's done. 792 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:03,620 Yes, exactly. 793 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:06,140 My microwave is pretty polite compared to the dryer. 794 00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:07,820 It's like every like two minutes or something. 795 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:12,500 Anyway, small annoying noises or small annoying things can be very motivating. 796 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:13,740 So I want to utilize this. 797 00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:15,020 Do you guys remember annoyatrons? 798 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:15,580 Yeah. 799 00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:16,920 Do you ever have those in high school? 800 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,620 Button cell coin. 801 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:27,780 A little device that you can hide somewhere that's just on like a simple, yeah, coin cell battery that will just beep every four minutes or whatever at a random interval to just kind of antagonize someone. 802 00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:29,120 Let's combine the two. 803 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,820 Let's make an IoT annoyatron to motivate you to do things. 804 00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:38,180 Like you've seen some examples where it's like, hey, I got to get up in the morning, my alarm clock. 805 00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:43,380 If I put my alarm clock across the room, then I have to get out of bed to actually hit the snooze or something. 806 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:44,860 What other things could you do? 807 00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:51,980 If you had an IoT device that had, you know, the classic sensors, an accelerometer, a speaker on it, maybe a flashing LED or something. 808 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:56,160 How could we use this to motivate people to do things if it's fully IoT? 809 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960 What if the flashing light was also running around the wall and you had to catch up? 810 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,800 Fantastic. 811 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,860 We'll combine it with Leo's idea. 812 00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:09,580 Well, you always jump with your assistant ideas, Scott, to like the don't forget to take out the trash type thing. 813 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:11,480 I'm trying to be a little bit more creative here about that. 814 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,140 Hey, taking out the trash is a good one. 815 00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:15,480 My trash can just chirps at me. 816 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,380 You got to catch the trash can. 817 00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:18,580 Everyone hates to do workouts. 818 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:19,680 That's good. 819 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,000 What if your weight's chirped? 820 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,720 There it is. 821 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,560 They will not shut up until you go in there and do X amount of reps. 822 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,260 The treadmill only stops chirping when you're actually running. 823 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:30,760 Whoa. 824 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,160 That is... 825 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,700 Oh, yeah. 826 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:33,620 Oh, no. 827 00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:38,260 And then after you've done like a half hour, it's good for the day, but then it starts up again. 828 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:39,420 Oh, that's haunting. 829 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,520 My chirp has been satisfied. 830 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,480 That's right. 831 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,720 That's great. 832 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,120 Put it on a water bottle. 833 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,020 If you don't take a drink every 30 minutes or something, just have it just go nuts until... 834 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:53,260 It's kind of like a mouse jiggler. 835 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:54,320 Yeah, exactly. 836 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,860 The little USB. 837 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:57,400 Like those ones that remind you to take a wrist break. 838 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,900 Just put the smoke alarm chirp in there. 839 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:00,500 Oh, gosh. 840 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,720 Oh, like a really loud one. 841 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,480 That would be the ultimate motivation. 842 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,100 Because then all the people around you are also helping you be motivated. 843 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:10,020 What is that? 844 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:10,600 Turn that off. 845 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:10,960 Oh, my God. 846 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:17,140 Like, I honestly think like of all the like exercise fitness ideas out there, this sounds 847 00:35:17,140 --> 00:35:23,460 like the most motivating one because knowing, all right, if I don't wake up at 6 a.m. to 848 00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:25,840 run or whatever, I'm going to have trips all day. 849 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,000 Yeah. 850 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,200 All day. 851 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,440 Motivatron. 852 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,340 You'd break it. 853 00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:30,220 I feel like... 854 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:31,140 Battery removed. 855 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:32,340 Like every... 856 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:32,780 Solar. 857 00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:33,960 You didn't make... 858 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,820 You couldn't make... 859 00:35:34,820 --> 00:35:36,040 Like, that would be your thing, though. 860 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,340 In order to stop it, you'd have to destroy it. 861 00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:40,380 That's your business model. 862 00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:45,040 People are always going to be destroying these things in order to not do whatever they're 863 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,680 doing with it, right? 864 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,620 I mean, how much power do you need to like chirp every four minutes? 865 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:52,160 You could just have it be like those solar calculators, the little Casio thing, and it 866 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,000 doesn't even have batteries. 867 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,740 True. 868 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,680 What if it was mobile and could run away? 869 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,100 I've seen the... 870 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,100 There's an alarm clock with wheels that'll like... 871 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,100 If you snooze it too many times, it'll take off screaming. 872 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,600 You gotta like go chase it down. 873 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,800 I think that was a thing on ThinkGeek years ago. 874 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,820 So like micro drone with a chirp? 875 00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:10,480 Yeah. 876 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,500 Like flies up and sticks to the wall? 877 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,460 My cat would be all over that. 878 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:18,900 Or like the ring one, the little home security drone, but it's just running away from you. 879 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,320 Yeah. 880 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,300 Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. 881 00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:22,880 Oh, dude. 882 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,220 Frickin' get back here. 883 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:25,860 I swear I'll do the dishes. 884 00:36:25,860 --> 00:36:27,180 My wife would divorce me. 885 00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:33,760 You go on vacation for a week and literally you walk in your home and everything is chirping. 886 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:42,080 You're sprinting upstairs and trying to pump weights while you're throwing laundry in. 887 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,640 Make it stop. 888 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,400 Changing the dishes. 889 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,560 Take out the trash again. 890 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,720 All right, I'm going to take this in a real weird direction. 891 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:48,560 Oh, yeah. 892 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,020 Are you ready? 893 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:52,200 It's an implantable chirp machine. 894 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Into your body? 895 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,640 That goes in your skin. 896 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,740 No. 897 00:36:56,740 --> 00:36:59,160 You can't turn it off. 898 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,200 The worst Fitbit ever created. 899 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Oh, man. 900 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,500 Honestly, though? 901 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:04,900 For the all or nothing people. 902 00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:09,160 And I'm going to take it even a little weirder. 903 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,740 It doesn't chirp. 904 00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:14,360 It just gives you weird doses of chemicals that make you feel sad. 905 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,880 Oh, I thought you were going to go the other way. 906 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,540 It's like a little jolt of... 907 00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:20,380 Oh, it could just shock you. 908 00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:21,440 Oh, that's good. 909 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,940 I was going to say... 910 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:27,100 That seems simpler than putting anti-antidepressants into you. 911 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,000 Is it epinephrine? 912 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,660 Just depressants? 913 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:29,500 Yeah, they're called depressants. 914 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:33,500 You want to stick them full of like a little EpiPen jolt to get their heart rate going? 915 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:34,800 You don't want to make them sad. 916 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,560 Honestly, if I'm walking around in public and I'm just chirping randomly, that would be pretty 917 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,620 motivating for me to be like, I need to stop this. 918 00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:44,500 How do I stop this? 919 00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,640 You could never fly on an airplane. 920 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,160 I'm trying to figure out how you could do it to stop like doom scrolling or like you have 921 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,540 someone who's been on TikTok or something for way too long. 922 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,440 I mean, I guess chirping the corner is good. 923 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,220 Maybe it just texts your phone or sends you notifications you can't get rid of and just 924 00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:03,000 keep spamming them across your screen. 925 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,800 I guess it's more the IoT version. 926 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,120 This is like user hostile as a service. 927 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,320 Yes. 928 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,660 I feel like you could probably integrate some social aspects of this, like social accountability, 929 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:16,040 right? 930 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,660 Like if you're doom scrolling for too long, it starts texting all your friends saying like, 931 00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:20,800 Hey, Scott's doom scrolling. 932 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,360 That's the ticket. 933 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,860 Scott's been on his phone for two hours and 48 minutes. 934 00:38:23,860 --> 00:38:26,260 But it doesn't tell you that it's doing that. 935 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:26,840 It just doesn't. 936 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,700 You just know in the back of your mind that there's a risk that gets higher and higher. 937 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:31,380 Yeah. 938 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:31,880 Oh, that's fun. 939 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,820 Oh, the probability goes up for every like five minutes you've been on the phone or something. 940 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:40,660 In fact, your chirp thing could be in someone else's house that you care about. 941 00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:41,340 Whoa. 942 00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:43,700 He hasn't worked out today. 943 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,560 The sensor's at your house, but the chirp is somewhere else. 944 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,440 If you don't work out. 945 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Oh, man. 946 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,400 Get up, you son of a... 947 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200 I am tired of the chirps. 948 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,340 Drive my ass over there. 949 00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:54,780 Leo, do your dishes. 950 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:55,720 God damn it. 951 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,060 Because there's... 952 00:38:57,060 --> 00:39:00,300 I will definitely take care of other people better than I'll take care of my own self. 953 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:01,080 Yeah, for real. 954 00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:04,920 Dude, the world needs these types of products where it's just like ridiculous. 955 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,740 Like, all right, who's going to do this with me? 956 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:08,800 You know, like that would be awesome. 957 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,380 You could build a whole brand around whimsy. 958 00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:11,400 Yes. 959 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000 Have you heard of the most dangerous writing app? 960 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,340 No. 961 00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:14,920 I don't think so. 962 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:21,100 For authors who have struggled just getting words on the page, it's like a text editor and 963 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:22,380 you can type in it normally. 964 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:26,420 But if you stop typing more than five seconds, it starts backspacing faster and faster. 965 00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:30,100 Or whatever the time limit is. 966 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:30,920 Don't go get coffee. 967 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,680 That's fun. 968 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,720 So basically, it's a text editor that forces you to just stream of consciousness. 969 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:35,920 Yeah. 970 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,540 Keep typing. 971 00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:38,140 Or else it deletes everything you've done. 972 00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:39,220 Is that helpful? 973 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:40,760 Like, does that help people? 974 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,080 That's a whole different thing. 975 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,820 Some people swear by like being forced to write all the time, like diary or you just like 976 00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:50,220 have a blank page and just whatever comes to your mind. 977 00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:54,080 It's a form of brainstorming that taps into like, I don't know what I was thinking here, 978 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,280 but that's an interesting idea. 979 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,440 There's a book called The Extended Mind that talks about how we use the world around us as 980 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,700 part of our thought process. 981 00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:05,880 And I think that's what it does is it sort of causes the page to become a part of your 982 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,300 brain thought process, whatever. 983 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,640 So like you're not writing good stuff the whole time, right? 984 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,200 But it's changing yourself. 985 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,260 And you are trying to minimize the filter where like, oh, I wouldn't have written that down 986 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:20,140 otherwise because sometimes the good stuff dies with the bad. 987 00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:22,740 So what's the chirp product called? 988 00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:23,560 The chirp chip. 989 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,540 Chirps up, dude. 990 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:25,420 Chirps up. 991 00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:27,660 I know you're trying to such a good name, but. 992 00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:28,120 It is. 993 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,940 It is a good name. 994 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,280 Twerp. 995 00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:30,180 Twerp. 996 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:31,020 Yeah. 997 00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:31,920 And you buy twerps. 998 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,400 That is catchy. 999 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,400 You can buy, throw a thing in the front or a thing in the, like, twerps by Brandon 1000 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,680 Ecio or twerp. 1001 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,280 Twerpy. 1002 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,060 Twerpy. 1003 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:42,380 Twerpy. 1004 00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:48,260 All right, Drew. 1005 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:50,440 What idea have you brought us this week? 1006 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,700 Well, I was debating between a couple of them, but I'm going to give you the one that I've 1007 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,880 thought about a little more and there's a lot more meat to dig into. 1008 00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,280 All right. 1009 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,620 This is really more of a service. 1010 00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:07,560 Pretty much every guy I know to some extent has a coffee can of nuts and bolts in their 1011 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,040 garage. 1012 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,000 Some people have many. 1013 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Some people have veritable suitcases. 1014 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,820 Some people just have a little Tupperware in the kitchen, you know, drawer, but everybody's 1015 00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:23,040 got this repository of garbage fasteners and we hold on to them. 1016 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,060 We think we're going to maybe use them someday, whatever. 1017 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:34,040 The idea here is that this is a service where I can turn in those crap nuts and bolts and 1018 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,580 in exchange, I get useful nuts and bolts. 1019 00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:38,420 Yes. 1020 00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:42,880 That are labeled and sorted and ready to go. 1021 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,580 Yes. 1022 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,300 I don't know. 1023 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:45,920 And maybe it's centralized. 1024 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,020 Maybe it's peer to peer. 1025 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:50,320 Maybe you ship them all to a sorting facility. 1026 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,940 I kind of think that's the way it would have to go because of the tech overhead that required 1027 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:55,580 for this. 1028 00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:58,640 But that's the basics. 1029 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,180 That's so good. 1030 00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:04,180 I have a little cup of like drywall anchors that came with that kit that I didn't end up 1031 00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:10,020 using and stuff, but they're all just fricking loose next to quarters and rubber bands and 1032 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:10,420 stuff. 1033 00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:15,920 I would love to ship away 30 of them and get back a 10 pack of whatever. 1034 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,600 Absolutely. 1035 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:16,980 Yeah. 1036 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:21,240 There's some overhead that goes into it and not all of them are coming back into the circulation, 1037 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:21,700 right? 1038 00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,140 Like some of these are rusty, damaged, screwed up. 1039 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,140 But you send it in and then your account a couple of days later is given like credits 1040 00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:32,200 that you can then spend on the pool. 1041 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,060 Yes. 1042 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:33,700 Yeah. 1043 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,960 And potentially even you buy into or you don't even buy it. 1044 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,040 You sign up for this. 1045 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:39,560 It's free. 1046 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,440 And you send in your grandpa's coffee can of nuts and bolts and it gives you credits. 1047 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,660 And, you know, maybe someday in the future, redeem those. 1048 00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:48,600 Maybe you don't. 1049 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,380 And maybe the maybe it's kind of a business model like Planet Fitness used to be before Gen 1050 00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:54,160 Zers ruined it. 1051 00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:58,560 Where they count on people buying memberships and not going. 1052 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,860 Or it's just a good way to clean out the drawer. 1053 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:02,200 I don't really need my whatever. 1054 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,780 I'll just send in the thing and maybe I'll use it. 1055 00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:05,360 Maybe I won't. 1056 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,060 The Goodwill model or whatever. 1057 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:08,080 Salvation Army. 1058 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,580 Yeah. 1059 00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:13,920 I'm just picturing like like this website that has these nice, neat, organized boxes of 1060 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,620 nuts and bolts. 1061 00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:15,620 Like McMaster Car. 1062 00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:16,260 Yeah. 1063 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:20,220 But like it's a pre-assembled thing where it has a huge variety of them. 1064 00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:23,440 And you can go on this website and you can buy one of these packs. 1065 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,680 But if you send them your by weight random jar of nuts and bolts, you get a discount on 1066 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,640 this box of something. 1067 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:30,840 Yeah. 1068 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,300 And then they just use those bolts. 1069 00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,040 They come in and put them making more packs. 1070 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,820 Totally. 1071 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,440 Lots of disclaimers. 1072 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,720 These are not load bearing. 1073 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:38,860 These are not rated. 1074 00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:40,500 We don't know what the materials are. 1075 00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:40,780 Yeah. 1076 00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:44,660 I do wonder how automated you could get on the intake and sort. 1077 00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:46,780 Like I know that we have our coin sorter. 1078 00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:47,680 Like could you? 1079 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,140 As long as you had somebody taking out all the nuts, all the whatever. 1080 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:57,240 Have you seen the machines that sort bad blueberries from good blueberries or whatever with little 1081 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:57,920 puffs of air? 1082 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,040 Yeah. 1083 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,680 Like I think it's possible. 1084 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600 There's some crazy vision sorting systems out now. 1085 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,100 Just like trash intake. 1086 00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:08,620 Like the local dump is taking in that and sorting recyclables out sometimes and stuff. 1087 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:08,960 Yeah. 1088 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,400 And they're identifying materials with like infrared cameras and other kinds of spectroscopy. 1089 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,620 All you need is one good sorting machine too. 1090 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:20,800 You don't need a crazy infrastructure setup. 1091 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,980 Just one thing that works and can tell you this bolt size is whatever. 1092 00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:25,680 It's all the screws. 1093 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,200 Yeah. 1094 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800 And you know, it doesn't even really have to cover everything. 1095 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,980 Like I don't care if you have some random specialty wall anchor that came with your chain 1096 00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:36,500 link fence accessory. 1097 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:39,160 Like throw that away and nobody's going to use that. 1098 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,000 Dude, I was thinking with this more being like a Coinstar model. 1099 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,360 Like you go to your local hardware shop and like literally you dump your coffee can into 1100 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,780 this machine and it's, you know, you can send it to a local storage facility or whatever. 1101 00:44:53,780 --> 00:44:55,420 But what if it was just like hyper localized? 1102 00:44:55,420 --> 00:45:00,700 It's like your community's nuts and bolts in a machine and on the wall. 1103 00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:02,600 It's like a vending machine, right? 1104 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,780 That sorts it into like, you know, 150 or 250 little plastic boxes. 1105 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:12,120 You're looking at the shelf and then you put in a hundred nuts and bolts or whatever. 1106 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,720 It sorts it on the screen and then you can trade in, you know, it's like a five to one 1107 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:17,020 model. 1108 00:45:17,020 --> 00:45:18,780 You put five nuts and bolts in. 1109 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:25,060 You get to pick from your selection of a hundred, you know, 250 on the wall and like you get credits 1110 00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:25,520 or whatever. 1111 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,540 But because for all the reasons why, you know, of the five bolts that you put in, one is probably 1112 00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:33,800 valuable and goes on the plastic wall. 1113 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600 But then that becomes the sort of, you don't need a facility. 1114 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,900 You sell these to Home Depot and whatever for the people that just are like, I don't want 1115 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:42,900 to keep them in my house. 1116 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:44,700 Brings them back into the store. 1117 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,400 Like those key cutting machines that have taken over all the key cutting. 1118 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,300 Yeah, exactly. 1119 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,220 Yes, that's it. 1120 00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:50,720 Yeah. 1121 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:51,180 Like that. 1122 00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:53,100 But look, but like that way you don't have to send it. 1123 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,600 Like, I feel like shipping logistics become this whole thing. 1124 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:55,800 Yeah. 1125 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,320 Metal's heavy. 1126 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,560 Metal is heavy. 1127 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,720 I just think it'd be, it'd be kind of cool to see like, oh, look at, uh, maybe not. 1128 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:08,160 Maybe it wouldn't be as cool as I think it would be like, look at that classic bolt from 1129 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,320 the seventies, 1920s, you know, roadster. 1130 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:21,620 I wouldn't have any qualms buying, going to the hardware store and buying the nut off the 1131 00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:23,840 shelf that I need, whether it's used or new. 1132 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,020 Like, why does it matter if this is 30 years old? 1133 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,180 If it's not rusted, then just as good. 1134 00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:31,960 Like they don't degrade over time too bad. 1135 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,240 Business model might not work well in Michigan. 1136 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:34,660 Yes. 1137 00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:38,700 I mean, no, I'm saying you go up to the coin star, you dump your thing and then the people 1138 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:40,600 just take that and put it back on the shelf. 1139 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,140 And now you have your little coupon and you get a couple of them for free when you buy, 1140 00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:46,560 but it can be part of the inventory of the store. 1141 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,260 Yeah. 1142 00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:48,320 Ooh. 1143 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,180 Or like that actually would probably save on logistics, right? 1144 00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:54,660 Cause you get like 400 pounds of like input. 1145 00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,060 And instead of everybody sending their own individual Home Depot or whoever manages the 1146 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:03,760 machines, bring it and consolidate it to that massive facility. 1147 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,920 And now you have your, your intake, uh, like your, your supply model, right? 1148 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:13,960 You got your demand booths like in the store and then, you know, you just get bought a 1149 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,420 bunch of screws for this one project. 1150 00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:16,320 Don't need them anymore. 1151 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,540 Do it a different project. 1152 00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:23,260 I did a deck project and was like four screws short and I needed to buy another hundred or 1153 00:47:23,260 --> 00:47:23,600 whatever. 1154 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:23,920 Yeah. 1155 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,460 That's wrong. 1156 00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:28,880 So that's something I often think about with these ideas is who is going to fight you. 1157 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,280 Big screw. 1158 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,900 And in this case, it's definitely big screw. 1159 00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:36,700 Their name is for their motto. 1160 00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:37,460 Screw you. 1161 00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:39,500 That's interesting. 1162 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:39,820 Yeah. 1163 00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:41,280 Who, who doesn't want this to happen? 1164 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,200 Like these companies are selling them for pennies. 1165 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,060 So it's not like you're undercutting too bad. 1166 00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:49,680 I get the warm fuzzies just knowing I'm reusing them. 1167 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,600 Totally. 1168 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,680 The, and, and the ones that get scrapped, like metal has a good scrap value. 1169 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,420 It's not, it's not the end of the world. 1170 00:47:56,420 --> 00:47:58,060 Like that's not a just trash. 1171 00:47:58,060 --> 00:48:05,180 I also wonder with this idea, if there's like a commercial or like B2B version of this where 1172 00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:11,480 like I've worked in several factory type settings and there's always like screws and nuts and 1173 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,980 washers and bolts that get dropped on the floor constantly and they just get thrown away 1174 00:48:14,980 --> 00:48:16,280 because it's not worth resorting them. 1175 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:23,340 But what if there was like a, you know, fast and all S company that just takes all that 1176 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:28,280 in and gives you back, you know, maybe, maybe it's not your nuts, your, your staple things 1177 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,500 that you use tons of, but maybe it's like the extras drawer, right? 1178 00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:34,520 Like, oh man, I just need to like hang this thing up. 1179 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,180 Paperclips. 1180 00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:35,860 No. 1181 00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:40,880 What if this, is there a model where like the cans where it's like 10 cents a can, but could 1182 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,340 you do this for the screws? 1183 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:42,980 For fasteners? 1184 00:48:42,980 --> 00:48:44,380 Turn this into, yeah. 1185 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,840 Turn this into like a metal recycle up program. 1186 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480 Like, oh, give us your old cups of screws and nuts. 1187 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080 I don't know how much metal would sell for like that. 1188 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:59,260 Like if you had like, like 40 pounds of screws and bolts to collect it from your zinc tin. 1189 00:48:59,260 --> 00:48:59,880 Yeah. 1190 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,320 Well, here in Michigan, you get 10 cents because you paid 10 cents when you bought it. 1191 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,320 Like, I don't know if I want to pay a tax on every screw just that I get back by returning 1192 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,860 it later. 1193 00:49:09,860 --> 00:49:15,080 But like scrap metal, I don't, I don't know how much metal it takes to actually make it 1194 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,500 valuable. 1195 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,780 But like, what if it was just like one of those programs? 1196 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:20,780 Like, or like, can you recycle? 1197 00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:22,860 If you had enough screws and fasteners. 1198 00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:23,740 Is that possible? 1199 00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:24,180 I don't know. 1200 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:25,860 Aluminum is pretty easy to melt down. 1201 00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:26,200 Yeah. 1202 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,760 But some other ones like the zinc plated and then like, oh shoot. 1203 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,600 How do I get like the different metals separated? 1204 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,580 How do you get the zinc off? 1205 00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:35,040 Yeah. 1206 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,860 Or whatever. 1207 00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:36,680 It's kind of depends. 1208 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,080 Just burn it, right? 1209 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,740 Just burn it. 1210 00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:39,800 Just melt it. 1211 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,360 And burn it. 1212 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,640 Just send it. 1213 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,020 Burn it. 1214 00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:44,320 Engineers will figure that one out. 1215 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:44,640 Don't worry. 1216 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,760 Engineers will figure it out. 1217 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,000 I think the chemists will figure that out in this case. 1218 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,640 Just the big cauldron in the corner, right? 1219 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,760 You throw the screws in there. 1220 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,420 It's the metal vat. 1221 00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:53,340 Don't question it. 1222 00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:53,940 Yeah. 1223 00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:55,000 What's this one made of? 1224 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,240 And then like, dribbling out the bottom is like little nuts and bolts. 1225 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,700 That's so handy. 1226 00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,200 Could you do that? 1227 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,500 No. 1228 00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:08,260 What if you put a bunch of metal in a cauldron and just started churning out like generic nuts and bolts? 1229 00:50:08,260 --> 00:50:08,420 Yeah. 1230 00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:09,400 That's all alloys are. 1231 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,860 It's just mixed up metals. 1232 00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:11,440 Yeah. 1233 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,960 I mean. 1234 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,500 Will it blend? 1235 00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:13,280 Will it blend? 1236 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:21,480 I'll give you a dollar if that's not what's actually happening in China for like a lot of the cheap screws that I get with some of these things I bought. 1237 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,800 Right. 1238 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,440 I'm ahead of my time, it sounds like, is what you're saying, Drew. 1239 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,220 Ahead of, yes. 1240 00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:26,960 Definitely that. 1241 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,680 It's not. 1242 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,020 You can't make that in America. 1243 00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:29,660 That's what you're saying. 1244 00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:33,680 We got to ship all the screws and fasteners overseas in order to make this happen. 1245 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,340 No, I'm not saying that. 1246 00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:38,220 Maybe we just haven't caught the vision yet. 1247 00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:39,720 So, yeah, maybe you are ahead of your time. 1248 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:40,560 No. 1249 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,920 Melt down everything. 1250 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,020 Mix it all up. 1251 00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:45,060 My wedding ring. 1252 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:45,420 No. 1253 00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:45,860 Shoot. 1254 00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:48,760 You accidentally get a golden screw. 1255 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,840 It's like one of the ones in the pack. 1256 00:50:53,220 --> 00:51:01,200 Hey, that would be a pretty sweet promotion if a screw company put one gold screw in one of their packs of screws somewhere in a hardware store. 1257 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600 And you get to go visit the eccentric factory owner. 1258 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,840 I got a golden screw. 1259 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,480 Companies don't do promotions like that anymore, but they should. 1260 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,740 Yeah. 1261 00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:11,860 The cereal box model. 1262 00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:14,760 They don't kill children and give away their whole factory. 1263 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,000 Well, no, not that part. 1264 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,320 No, yeah. 1265 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,780 Do you have a name for your idea, Drew? 1266 00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:19,360 I'm voting for that's a lot of nuts. 1267 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,740 I was kind of going with Pappy's Nuts. 1268 00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:23,700 Pappy's Nuts. 1269 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,660 Come on down! 1270 00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:29,740 Pappy's Nuts. 1271 00:51:29,740 --> 00:51:31,240 Bolt Cauldron. 1272 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:32,420 How about Bolt Cauldron? 1273 00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:33,460 The Bolt Cauldron? 1274 00:51:33,460 --> 00:51:34,500 Yeah, maybe. 1275 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:35,460 Or Bolt Star. 1276 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,800 Kind of riff on the Coinstar thing. 1277 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,220 There you go. 1278 00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:41,800 Bolt Star sounds like a villain in an 80s cartoon. 1279 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,640 It's not a bad name. 1280 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,380 It's kind of growing on me now that I said it. 1281 00:51:45,380 --> 00:51:46,780 You might get sued by Coinstar. 1282 00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:47,280 Yeah, you might. 1283 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,420 Well, dear listener. 1284 00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:49,460 They don't own Star. 1285 00:51:49,460 --> 00:51:52,140 They don't own the word Star. 1286 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:58,240 Well, dear listener, if you're headed down to the hardware store to dump your bucket into 1287 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:03,780 Pappy's Nuts and you're listening to us in your headphones, we thank you very much for 1288 00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:04,140 listening. 1289 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,640 We hope you enjoyed yourself. 1290 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,440 And thank you so much, Drew, for being here. 1291 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,240 This was so fun. 1292 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:08,980 You're welcome. 1293 00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:09,900 Thanks for having me. 1294 00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:10,980 Come back anytime. 1295 00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:12,100 You said you have multiple ideas. 1296 00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:13,420 We'd love to have you back sometime, man. 1297 00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:14,320 I got more. 1298 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,140 All right. 1299 00:52:15,140 --> 00:52:18,260 Well, our website is Spitball.show. 1300 00:52:18,260 --> 00:52:20,200 There you can find out more about us. 1301 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,300 Email us feedback, comments, ideas. 1302 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:24,360 We're a podcast@spitball.show. 1303 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