1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:05,600 I'm Scott. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,580 I'm Russell. 3 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:07,440 I'm Leo. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,240 This is Spitball. 5 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:22,180 Welcome to Spitball, where three eccentric electricians and a guest empty our heads of 6 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:25,900 startup and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them 7 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:26,420 for free. 8 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:28,200 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,540 This week, I believe Scott, you brought our guest. 10 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:30,960 Is that right? 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,220 I did. 12 00:00:32,220 --> 00:00:36,900 I am very excited to introduce Richard, who I work with the same engineering company. 13 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:41,320 Richard's a product development engineer, IT professional, and team lead there. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,580 He's probably brought more products and projects to market than all of us combined. 15 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:51,280 Mechanical engineer, laser enthusiast, 3D printing master, and a pilot, honestly. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Oh, sweet. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,020 Yeah. 18 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:53,720 Welcome, Richard. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,220 Welcome. 20 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:55,020 Thank you. 21 00:00:55,540 --> 00:00:56,980 I'm so excited to have you. 22 00:00:56,980 --> 00:00:58,800 Fellow IT man. 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,660 We've got to represent. 24 00:00:59,660 --> 00:01:00,200 That's right. 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,420 It's good to have more diverse representation on this show. 26 00:01:03,420 --> 00:01:05,860 Okay. 27 00:01:05,860 --> 00:01:09,760 This week, to get us warmed up, I want to throw a little game around here that I'm going to 28 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,640 call this time. 29 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,080 But can it run Doom? 30 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Literally? 31 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:16,680 I'm just going to go down the line here and throw things out there, and you need to tell 32 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,260 me if it's something that I made up or if someone has actually gotten Doom running on this hardware. 33 00:01:20,260 --> 00:01:20,620 Are you ready? 34 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:23,520 And we do, as always, we've got to start with our guest, Richard. 35 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,860 I'm going to start off here with the Honeywell Prestige Thermostat, a small color LCD thermostat. 36 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:31,440 Did someone, yes or no, get it running Doom? 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,880 I would say yes. 38 00:01:33,540 --> 00:01:33,900 Absolutely. 39 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:40,540 In 2017, a developer named CZ7ASM got a whole hacked thermostat thing going. 40 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:41,120 It's the best. 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,480 Love nerds. 42 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,540 Wow. 43 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:46,300 Scott, a Walmart self-checkout kiosk. 44 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:50,820 I hope to God, yes. 45 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:51,620 Please say yes. 46 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:52,680 I made that one up. 47 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,220 No! 48 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:54,060 Man! 49 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,120 Not yet. 50 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Although it's probably just like a full Windows PC in there, right? 51 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,120 Or some Linux-based thing. 52 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,180 You probably could get it pretty easily. 53 00:02:01,180 --> 00:02:04,460 Nothing yet, but look out at DEF CON 2025. 54 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:07,640 Russell, a pregnancy test. 55 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,580 What? 56 00:02:08,580 --> 00:02:11,300 There's no way. 57 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:12,460 How could it run it? 58 00:02:12,460 --> 00:02:13,360 There's no way. 59 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,000 No. 60 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,420 That's what inspired this game. 61 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:21,760 There's a guy, a programmer who was on Twitter named, he calls himself Foon Turing in 2020. 62 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,420 There was this little tiny monochrome LCD display that would say pregnant or not. 63 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:32,300 And he put some buttons on it and a different CPU and he got it running due. 64 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:33,620 Oh my God. 65 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:36,080 What kind of processor does a pregnancy test have? 66 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,020 That's what I'm wondering. 67 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:41,400 A little arm cortex thing to make the screen work and boom, you're off to the races. 68 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,380 Richard, the AirTag smart Bluetooth device tracker. 69 00:02:45,380 --> 00:02:46,720 I'm going to say no. 70 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Yeah, no, I made that one up. 71 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,360 I'm like, does he need a screen for that one? 72 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,520 It's running dune. 73 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:52,080 Trust me. 74 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,500 If someone gets a pregnancy test working though, right? 75 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:56,180 I'll just throw you for a look. 76 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:58,460 Scott, a John Deere tractor. 77 00:02:58,460 --> 00:03:01,880 I'm going to go back to the no screen on this one and say no. 78 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,020 Someone got the whole instrument cluster and everything running doom. 79 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:05,900 No way. 80 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:07,000 Yeah, 100%. 81 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 And you could even use the sticks and stuff to input. 82 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,740 It's hilarious. 83 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:16,160 Yeah, in 2022, it was at DEF CON actually, a group that called themselves Sick Codes. 84 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,320 They were highlighting all the security vulnerabilities in agriculture equipment and how smart all these tractors have gotten and stuff. 85 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,000 But yep, it runs doom. 86 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,840 That's a good demo. 87 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,560 I respect that. 88 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:27,820 Right. 89 00:03:27,820 --> 00:03:28,380 Exactly. 90 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:31,020 Russell, the Samsung smart fridge. 91 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:32,680 Oh, 1,000%. 92 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,740 Yeah, absolutely. 93 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:34,620 That one had to. 94 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:35,080 Yeah, yeah. 95 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,200 In 2020, there was a developer posted a video of him running doom on his fridge. 96 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,860 It's the best. 97 00:03:39,860 --> 00:03:41,840 One more time through. 98 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Richard, the MacBook Pro touch bar. 99 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,660 Just the touch bar. 100 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:48,800 I'm going to say yes. 101 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,260 Yeah. 102 00:03:49,260 --> 00:03:53,080 Someone put the whole UI on the little tiny long monochrome screen. 103 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,340 OLED screen. 104 00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:55,300 Wow. 105 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:58,060 Scott, a Coinstar machine. 106 00:03:58,060 --> 00:04:03,280 I mean, if you can do it on a pregnancy test, I'm going to say yes to a Coinstar. 107 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,120 I made that one up. 108 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:04,540 I'm sorry. 109 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:05,980 No. 110 00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:06,980 New life goal now. 111 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:08,260 Yeah. 112 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:10,560 And lastly, Russell, last one of the night. 113 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,900 The IKEA Treadfury light bulb. 114 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:13,420 What? 115 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:14,900 A smart bulb. 116 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:15,780 No. 117 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:16,840 There's no way. 118 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:17,640 It's a light bulb. 119 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,060 Yeah. 120 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:20,760 Someone added a screen and a button to it and got it. 121 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,420 We're in doom. 122 00:04:21,420 --> 00:04:25,000 It's hilarious. 123 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Yeah. 124 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,220 So apparently a lot of them have ESP32s or other ARM chips in them to receive the Wi-Fi 125 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:33,360 radio waves and change the light bulb. 126 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,700 So someone put a screen on it and boom, you're good. 127 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:36,680 Hilarious. 128 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,020 If only we used that human potential for something good. 129 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:42,300 You know, something productive. 130 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:44,800 Now run doom on it. 131 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Let's run doom on stuff. 132 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Famous 1990 something, 1993 game. 133 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 It's been more platforms than anywhere else. 134 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,600 I learned also in the research for this that there's three separate projects for getting 135 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,840 doom running on the TI-83 calculator. 136 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:01,340 I was good. 137 00:05:01,340 --> 00:05:03,420 I swear you were going to say that one for tonight. 138 00:05:03,420 --> 00:05:03,920 Yeah. 139 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,620 It was a little too obvious. 140 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:06,100 I thought. 141 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:06,820 All right. 142 00:05:06,820 --> 00:05:07,840 Who's up first this week? 143 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:08,800 I think you are, Leo. 144 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:09,340 Me? 145 00:05:09,340 --> 00:05:10,300 Yeah, I can go first. 146 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:10,540 Sure. 147 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:15,440 So I actually pitched Scott in person on this idea a little while ago. 148 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,680 I was pretty hyped up about it. 149 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,300 And then he told me, oh, I think Disher had a project that was kind of like what you're 150 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:20,740 describing. 151 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:22,300 So it's perfect that you're here tonight, Richard. 152 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:30,980 I love the summertime activity of drawing roads and parking lots and stop signs and stuff 153 00:05:30,980 --> 00:05:35,140 with chalk in your driveway or in a parking lot somewhere and having your kid drive around 154 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:35,860 on a bike, right? 155 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:38,380 And I think it would be so fun to amp up. 156 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:42,860 I know if I were a kid, I would feel pretty hyped if there was a working traffic light 157 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:43,340 in that. 158 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:49,460 So I want to build and productize a little toy traffic light that the parent can have a 159 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:51,600 remote for and it can go into a timer mode. 160 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,280 You can set up a couple of them along the route, maybe even like, I don't know, blinking 161 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:02,600 yields and blinking arrows and stuff too, where like you've got the remote where you can say, 162 00:06:02,740 --> 00:06:07,400 yes, put it into regular 10 second timer mode or kids running at it right now. 163 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,900 I'm going to hit yellow on my little remote and turn red. 164 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:11,860 And then, oh, the kids, oh, we're having so much fun. 165 00:06:11,860 --> 00:06:14,660 I think it'd be such a fun toy to have a little smart traffic light. 166 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:16,080 You could 3D print it. 167 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,320 You just need a ring of LEDs and a little like Arduino ESP3. 168 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,400 It'd be pretty easy to get something like that up and running. 169 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,760 I would buy one. 170 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,980 That's the whole pitch. 171 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:26,240 Traffic light toy. 172 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,280 I have so much respect for little kids and lights now with my brother. 173 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:36,500 My brother's kids, they have one of those like LED things outside of the bedroom where it's 174 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:40,740 like you can't come out until the light is green and they just follow it. 175 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:44,160 I don't know what age that goes away, but it's very powerful right now. 176 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,480 When I'm driving around town, my toddler in the backseat's always like, why are we stopped? 177 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,880 It's green now. 178 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Or whatever. 179 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,900 It's like, no, it's not green yet, honey. 180 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:55,520 Or, you know, what color is that one up there? 181 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,460 Oh, yeah. 182 00:06:57,460 --> 00:07:02,940 This sounds crazy, but like you could use this for like driving schools or like, you know, 183 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:08,040 when you're 50, just like trying to get a bunch of kids to pay attention. 184 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,620 Like, yep, this is just the rules of the road. 185 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:13,300 Like, yeah, bumper cars, right? 186 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:18,420 You could do, replace the Sims with actual like, all right, you're in a go-kart. 187 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,720 You're going to go around this lot and your test is you driving around a go-kart. 188 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,100 Because those are pretty cheap now, too. 189 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:25,880 They're like 500 bucks for a Segway. 190 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 You know, for one of those Segway ones. 191 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Get a bunch of kids on them and let them roose. 192 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,220 Hey, I mean, it's safer than, and probably cheaper than those. 193 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:36,820 I don't know if you guys had like those old simulators in high school or like if you did 194 00:07:36,820 --> 00:07:37,840 the driving school. 195 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,780 No. 196 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:42,320 Like the boxes, like literally wheels, and they would track your score. 197 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:42,760 I don't know. 198 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,280 They seemed really expensive back in, I don't know. 199 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,480 This, my high school had like a 30, like these old ones. 200 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:54,140 But anyways, like you can use that to test kids, like, and just get them through training, 201 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:56,600 just more hours in the road and paying attention. 202 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Let's get them driving even earlier. 203 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,620 I love this. 204 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:02,000 Hey, that's what, yeah. 205 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,200 The McElroys, my brother, my brother and me did a TV show of six episodes that's really 206 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,600 delightful. 207 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,060 But in that, they described kind of what you're talking about, where they had a thing 208 00:08:10,060 --> 00:08:12,960 in their small West Virginia town called Safety Town. 209 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,960 And it was a bunch of little like electric bumper car type things in a small scaled miniature 210 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,520 like course. 211 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,960 And it was like a little town. 212 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,760 And they'd tear the kids loose on it and say, you know, learn how to obey traffic flow and 213 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,080 all that. 214 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Yeah. 215 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,720 It'd be great for something like that. 216 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:35,840 I think in the Holland area, we have a group called Velo Kids, where they teach, you know, 217 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,420 lower L kids how to ride bikes. 218 00:08:38,420 --> 00:08:42,500 And they got a bunch of those balance bikes, the scoot bikes. 219 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:49,200 I'm not sure of the brand name, but they totally would have a heyday with those streetlights 220 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:56,280 on a course in a parking lot and teach the kids not only how to balance and how to ride, 221 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:02,280 but what to do at a corner at a stop sign or a stoplight or whatever, you know, stop, look 222 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:02,840 for traffic. 223 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,340 And of course, you're going to have to make bike traffic go both, you know, four way stop 224 00:09:07,340 --> 00:09:12,180 or a two way stop or whatever, just to make, you know, potential crash opportunities. 225 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:13,580 Of course. 226 00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:14,740 God, I got to learn early. 227 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:15,820 It's amazing. 228 00:09:15,820 --> 00:09:21,600 The balance bike to riding a full bike pipeline is so much better than the training wheels 229 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,100 that we have. 230 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:22,540 For sure. 231 00:09:22,540 --> 00:09:27,960 Like my four year old thrives on his pedal bike now, and there was so little adjustment. 232 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,160 It's really, really cool. 233 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,040 And I know my two kids would love this. 234 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,840 I love the simplicity of the traffic light is so good, Leo. 235 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Like an MVP is exactly what you said. 236 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,480 ESP32, 3D print to housing, start selling it on Etsy or something. 237 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,420 Yeah, exactly. 238 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:47,200 Kids toys, like smart, smart, quote unquote, even with a dumb little remote and no Wi-Fi, 239 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,680 like so expensive. 240 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:53,440 Some of these things, like what you were talking about, the LED light for when you wake up in 241 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,920 the morning, my kids have, I think it's Hatch and it's like 150 bucks for a little speaker 242 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,260 and a charging circuit and a battery and a LED light. 243 00:10:03,260 --> 00:10:07,780 And it has, you know, an app, so they have to maintain some kind of server infrastructure, 244 00:10:07,780 --> 00:10:11,860 but it is like $4 worth of parts and it kills me every time, right? 245 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:17,940 There's five pre-recorded tracks on there for different white noise and that's all you get. 246 00:10:17,940 --> 00:10:18,260 Nope. 247 00:10:18,260 --> 00:10:19,180 Not a smart speaker. 248 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:21,040 Definitely not a smart speaker, right? 249 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,560 So they don't want it to become that. 250 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:24,040 So yeah. 251 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,580 Sounds like it needs to play Doom. 252 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:30,760 That's for sure. 253 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,540 Totally could, probably. 254 00:10:33,540 --> 00:10:34,740 Totally could. 255 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:35,160 Yeah. 256 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,380 Okay. 257 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,320 I think there's a lot of like outside of the toy aspect. 258 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:44,540 Like imagine when a, you know, when the street light goes down, you have a bunch of cops or 259 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:49,760 whatever, like traffic people drive around with like four of these little ones in the, in the 260 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,780 back of their car. 261 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:53,100 It's definitely safer than being in the road. 262 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:53,740 They hold it. 263 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:55,400 They stand in the middle of the street and just hold it. 264 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,260 You throw up like a, you attach like a tripod, a quick little retractable tripod. 265 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:06,620 You throw it on the road and now instant traffic control, safer than having a cop in the middle 266 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:07,120 of the road. 267 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:13,340 They can manually, let's say use the exact same timing that came in the original street light. 268 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:19,600 But now when it goes down, you could have like a cop just, or whatever, a service officer, 269 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,060 just go around and drop a bunch of those for like three or four street lights back to normal. 270 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:24,320 That's a cool idea. 271 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:24,860 Yeah. 272 00:11:24,860 --> 00:11:25,980 They're in a power outage. 273 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:26,620 That's fantastic. 274 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:27,400 Yeah. 275 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:32,420 Especially, yeah, like when there's a disaster, like you got a ton of people probably trying 276 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:33,040 to get around. 277 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,600 You need something like that and you don't want more accidents and boom, easy. 278 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Keep those. 279 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,220 And those, those could probably sell. 280 00:11:40,220 --> 00:11:44,280 That's where you sell it for like $8,000 a package or something, you know? 281 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,980 Sure. 282 00:11:44,980 --> 00:11:46,260 That's the economies of scale. 283 00:11:46,260 --> 00:11:48,820 I mean, they're disposable at that point. 284 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:49,480 Yeah, for sure. 285 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,300 One time use. 286 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:53,960 Seal in the battery. 287 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,920 Take that mother earth. 288 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Not returnable. 289 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,980 It's capitalism. 290 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:02,080 That's great. 291 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:07,460 Oh, you got to have one of those, those pull tabs, you know, like when you get the toy, 292 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:10,220 you got to pull the little thin plastic thing out. 293 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:10,840 So the battery. 294 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Yeah. 295 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:19,180 Part of the reason I'm thinking about this as a product is because I bought a full size traffic 296 00:12:19,180 --> 00:12:19,960 light recently. 297 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,560 like a standard, like auction was on the street one. 298 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:24,360 Oh, cool. 299 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Today I put it up on our wall. 300 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,680 It's up. 301 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,560 I ripped out all the incandescent stuff. 302 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:28,820 Yeah. 303 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:29,940 I told Scott about this. 304 00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:34,920 I ripped out all the incandescent relays and stuff and just put in three rings of 12 LEDs 305 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,420 in there and an ESP32. 306 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:40,260 And when our server status dashboard is green, it's green. 307 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:44,220 And when it's got, you know, partial downtime or maintenance, it's yellow. 308 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:46,780 And if there's a major outage, it's red and it blinks and stuff. 309 00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:49,140 It's really, really, really easy to get this kind of thing up and running. 310 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:49,440 Right. 311 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Nice. 312 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,260 It seems like I'm doing this work and it's like, man, I could just like not buy a decommissioned 313 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:03,400 light from Facebook marketplace, but instead, you know, put it in a little 3D printed housing 314 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,820 and my kids would love this too, you know? 315 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:11,340 Was it, did you make the whole like electronic remote control thing or I guess you did? 316 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:12,060 It's not remote controlled now. 317 00:13:12,060 --> 00:13:14,640 It's just going to the internet and pulling every 30 seconds. 318 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,020 Like what's the current server status? 319 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:16,640 Okay. 320 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,280 It's wall art for our office, you know? 321 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,440 It's not a toy. 322 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Lug that around on your back. 323 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,840 They're made of plastic now. 324 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,740 It wasn't that heavy after I took out the metal mounting brackets and stuff. 325 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:29,320 It's pretty lit. 326 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Oh, I always forget how big they are. 327 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:32,420 Yeah. 328 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:34,060 It's like four or five feet tall. 329 00:13:34,060 --> 00:13:34,260 Yeah. 330 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:38,200 That's just another example of one of those pitches where it's just something that I want 331 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,900 personally in my life. 332 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:43,840 I think almost all your pitches are and I respect that. 333 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,300 Gotta have passion for it. 334 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:52,920 Well, that's a, that's a good transition to me. 335 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,600 This is one that I want and absolutely don't need. 336 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,800 And probably would make the world worse, honestly. 337 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Oh, I want this. 338 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Okay. 339 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,280 All right. 340 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,220 I had a, two things happen to me recently that made me think this. 341 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:07,380 One, I watched Spinal Tap. 342 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:10,100 If you haven't seen that fake documentary in a while. 343 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,760 And two, my sister-in-law always does her one second videos. 344 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,860 Have you ever seen that app where you take like a one second clip every day throughout the 345 00:14:17,860 --> 00:14:20,540 year and puts it together and it just kind of shows you what you did throughout the year. 346 00:14:20,540 --> 00:14:20,920 They're great. 347 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,420 Yeah. 348 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:28,640 I'm going to put a dollar in the AI swear jar and say, I want an AI driven service that 349 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,000 would automatically create a documentary of my life about me. 350 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,140 And it was just using a combination of my entire digital footprints, my, all my Google photos, 351 00:14:38,140 --> 00:14:39,800 videos, social media posts. 352 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Hell, I didn't get it. 353 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Probably not email, but like voice notes or texts and just make all the highlights, birthdays, 354 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 vacations, major milestones with a narrator. 355 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,400 We'll have Morgan Freeman in the back, just describing what Scott is doing and going about 356 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:54,940 in his life. 357 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:56,900 That is what I want. 358 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:59,520 You can send that to your family as a Christmas card. 359 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,380 Exactly. 360 00:15:00,380 --> 00:15:01,740 Yeah. 361 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:06,360 It's like Spotify wrapped or whatever, but whatever customized time period you want, maybe 362 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,780 the last 10 years of my life or maybe the, I mean, there aren't many companies that are 363 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:15,940 positioned super well to do this except for Google and maybe Facebook if you're a big Facebook 364 00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:16,340 person. 365 00:15:16,340 --> 00:15:21,400 But I feel like you could with chat GPT five now and just all the image and video recognition 366 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:27,740 now you could, you know, it's not out yet, but what they're talking about with, uh, you 367 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:32,700 could have a pretty good narration and probably weirdly accurate to the ones that happened in 368 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:33,060 your life. 369 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:34,080 Hallucinates a little bit. 370 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,540 It's like, remember when you got that divorce? 371 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:38,380 You're like, Oh, I don't, I don't remember that. 372 00:15:38,380 --> 00:15:39,120 Thanks. 373 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,820 Gemini. 374 00:15:39,820 --> 00:15:42,220 Generate the video in between. 375 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:44,880 If it's missing something ever. 376 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,580 Right. 377 00:15:45,580 --> 00:15:48,260 Here's a render of Scott going to the opera. 378 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:49,280 That's fun. 379 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,740 I feel like we are, uh, predisposed as salt of the earth. 380 00:15:53,740 --> 00:15:58,180 Midwesterners here to like be humble about ourselves and meek and mild and all that. 381 00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:00,380 But I would totally watch a video of my own life. 382 00:16:00,380 --> 00:16:02,240 I'm vain enough to like enjoy that. 383 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:02,620 Yeah. 384 00:16:02,620 --> 00:16:04,120 I feel like we're humans. 385 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,180 Most people are. 386 00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:06,620 That's why social media took off. 387 00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:08,940 We want to see ourselves like online. 388 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:11,660 Why do you think it'd be the world would be worse with this? 389 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,940 Cause I'm giving an AI direct access to all these more things that I'm already probably 390 00:16:16,940 --> 00:16:17,960 shouldn't in the first place. 391 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Yeah. 392 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,420 Remember when the test results came back? 393 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:22,140 Oh yeah. 394 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:22,660 Thanks. 395 00:16:22,660 --> 00:16:23,440 Narrator. 396 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Crazy heavier targeted ads. 397 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,940 Oh no. 398 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:29,940 Why'd my insurance go up this year? 399 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:33,260 Gave my health records to check GPT. 400 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 I think that's, I think I watched all the time. 401 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:44,060 Like these videos that I get on like Apple photos that is like, remember this trip, right? 402 00:16:44,060 --> 00:16:44,400 Yeah. 403 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Three months or like a year and a half ago. 404 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,060 And you're like, whoa, I do now. 405 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:49,400 Right. 406 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,260 It's just like, it's an awesome experience to like relive something really quickly. 407 00:16:53,260 --> 00:16:54,080 Right. 408 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,720 And so like, even in a short, I want a two hour feature film, but, but right. 409 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,760 I think that's like, why not at the end of the year, celebrate the year, right? 410 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,500 You know? 411 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:07,280 And Google photos did that, but it's still only just the year. 412 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,640 If you could take every one of those that's been generated or whatever, and try to find 413 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,000 through lines and plots. 414 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,500 And oh yeah. 415 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:19,340 Every time you wore that shirt, you were doing these things or that time that you were with 416 00:17:19,340 --> 00:17:23,580 this person once a year for five years in a row, it was this thing that you do or, you 417 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:25,360 know, trying to like draw patterns and stuff. 418 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:26,360 That's what AI is best at. 419 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:26,560 Right. 420 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Dude. 421 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,480 It'd be so weird to like see my wife's two year documentary or like my kids two year documentary. 422 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,700 Just like, yeah. 423 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:34,680 Whoa. 424 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,060 There's so much that you're living outside of what I know, especially when you're like really 425 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:39,800 close with them. 426 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,220 Right. 427 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:44,880 So it's like, that would be, that would be nuts to watch somebody else's too. 428 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,260 That's how you find out about the affair. 429 00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:50,320 Boy, the Pablo's always hanging around. 430 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,820 Look at all those photos you have. 431 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:53,160 Yeah. 432 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,160 It's just a friend. 433 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,020 It's just a friend. 434 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:57,100 She always wears this when she's. 435 00:17:57,100 --> 00:18:00,880 Or doesn't wear this. 436 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Yeah, right. 437 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:12,000 All right, Russell, what do you got this week? 438 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,860 Yes. 439 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:14,820 So, all right, this week. 440 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:15,180 Okay. 441 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,620 I was thinking about, so I work in a, the stormwater industry. 442 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:20,140 Right. 443 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:26,820 And so one of the things that comes up a lot is people, whenever it rains, people like have 444 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:31,600 a problem with like puddles or ponding or issues on the road. 445 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,240 And my tech experience, there's this site called Down Detector. 446 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,580 That's like self-reported. 447 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:40,300 Like, oh, is this website down? 448 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:44,920 And literally your first Google search always brings you to Down Detector or something. 449 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 And it's literally just a website with people self-reporting that it's down. 450 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,360 And it's sometimes actually more often than not more reliable than the actual site that 451 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:54,940 is down. 452 00:18:54,940 --> 00:18:55,720 Because. 453 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,740 The status dashboard. 454 00:18:56,740 --> 00:18:57,120 Yeah. 455 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,340 There's probably some bureaucracy. 456 00:18:58,340 --> 00:19:02,700 They're like, oh, do we want to release this information that we're down for 10 seconds? 457 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:07,740 And then sure enough, like an hour later, we are experiencing some downtime. 458 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:08,220 Right. 459 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:12,520 But like Down Detector told me an hour and a half before, like, okay, it's down. 460 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,180 I can tell everybody on Slack, like, stop bugging me. 461 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:16,840 I know Gmail's down or whatever. 462 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Right. 463 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:23,580 So I guess I was thinking you could do this in a bunch of other ways and more thinking like 464 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:26,180 local community and GPS. 465 00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:34,020 So like when you're seeing flooding or a fire or a streetlight being down or all these other 466 00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:37,720 things, Waze, a cop, you know, like Waze does that really well. 467 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:45,240 So it's kind of like combining social reporting, but more for like the problem. 468 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Right. 469 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:52,160 And I think what's really cool about it is that data is so valuable because if you see reports 470 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:59,600 in a common location all the time, like, you know, even like something like a lot of trash 471 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,960 accumulates here, you report anything. 472 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,380 Right. 473 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:05,840 So we just encourage any nuisance reporting. 474 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,920 Oh, no. 475 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,640 And it just turns into like, well, we probably should solve a problem here. 476 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,900 And whether that's like a community coming together and being like, wow, there's there is a lot 477 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:19,960 of bad stuff going on here or we should solve this problem. 478 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:26,180 Like now it's it's publicly available, self-reported and anybody can maybe solve that problem. 479 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:26,480 Right. 480 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,380 But simply put, it's report a problem in your community. 481 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:32,780 Karen.com. 482 00:20:32,780 --> 00:20:37,800 I was, I was having a conversation with one of the guys that I worked with this afternoon 483 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:44,280 and he said that, and I don't think it works anymore, but in Kent County, they had an app 484 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,140 that you could pin potholes and graffiti. 485 00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:49,740 Really? 486 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:50,980 graffiti. 487 00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:51,380 Yeah. 488 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:52,020 Yeah. 489 00:20:52,020 --> 00:20:52,120 Yeah. 490 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:58,360 And he said he got so many potholes repaired in like short order. 491 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:02,800 And then just a little while ago, he went to use it again because he moved outside of the 492 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,420 city limits. 493 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:03,980 Mm-hmm. 494 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:06,160 And, but he, but he's still in Kent County a lot. 495 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,540 So, but he went to use the app again and it's not working. 496 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:12,500 Oh, it sounds like there was market validation there, Russell. 497 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,600 Yeah. 498 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,760 So it was pretty interesting, but it's kind of on the same regards as what you're talking 499 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,260 about, Russell. 500 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:18,920 Yeah. 501 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Potholes, graffiti. 502 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,700 That's a great one. 503 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:23,200 Like that's just stuff I want. 504 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Somebody should take care of. 505 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520 I'm not going to, that's as far as I want to go. 506 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,380 I just want to report it and move on. 507 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:28,600 Right. 508 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,600 It's step one. 509 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:30,900 You're right. 510 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,120 It seems like your customer would not be just the public. 511 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:38,120 I mean, it could be, I guess, direct to consumer, but your customer could be a partnership with 512 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:42,080 the local, you know, municipalities and utilities and stuff. 513 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Right. 514 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,360 You go to them and say, Hey, deploy this, advertise it, whatever in your town. 515 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:47,660 We'll facilitate it. 516 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:48,480 We'll keep it running. 517 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,900 Heck, maybe you even like show ads to the users and you make it free for the, you know, municipalities 518 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,580 to have or cheap or something. 519 00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:57,840 And then, or you get double income, I guess. 520 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,260 I don't know. 521 00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:59,140 Oh yeah. 522 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,320 But then yeah, like you facilitate the talk so that there's crowdsourcing and they don't 523 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,680 have to figure out how to make an app. 524 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,240 It's weird. 525 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Cause like if your goal is to drive traffic to your app or website, like reporting stuff 526 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 is honestly a great way to do that. 527 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,300 People, uh, sorry, but complaining about something like this is bad. 528 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:18,180 I want this fixed. 529 00:22:18,180 --> 00:22:22,080 I want to tell people that'd be great for ads and revenue. 530 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Yeah. 531 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,200 And I think local governments hate receiving those reports. 532 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,420 Like the front desk lady doesn't know where to direct it to. 533 00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:30,840 Yeah. 534 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,960 There's a pothole. 535 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,620 Okay. 536 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:34,600 Uh, who do I send it to? 537 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,340 Especially if it's like an empty text box and you're getting all the like, I hated that 538 00:22:39,340 --> 00:22:43,740 my neighbor left their lawn chair out front or there's all the like cruft. 539 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:49,860 If you can somehow whittle this down to predefined categories like ways does or somehow have the 540 00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:50,720 like the flow. 541 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,060 And then everyone who picks other just gets thrown away or something. 542 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:54,540 I don't know. 543 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:55,300 You keep it hosted. 544 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:56,540 Just one website. 545 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:59,860 It'll automatically put you in the, it has your location on there. 546 00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:02,080 And so it'll put you in the right district. 547 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,760 I really liked this idea. 548 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Russell, you could gamify it like ways did and have like the leaderboard. 549 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,740 Wow. 550 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:09,180 This guy's a graffiti champ. 551 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:11,940 He unlocked the graffiti award, you know? 552 00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:15,220 And then you could even like report when it got solved. 553 00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:15,720 Right. 554 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,420 And give a bunch of kudos to all those people that reported it, you know? 555 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:20,620 That's a great one. 556 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:21,100 Yeah. 557 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:25,220 If you get the municipality in there, like marking them as done, then they're giving out like 558 00:23:25,220 --> 00:23:27,340 free city bucks or whatever. 559 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:27,740 Yeah. 560 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,020 Not just notoriety. 561 00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:31,320 I want to be top dog in my reporting. 562 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,960 City points. 563 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,080 City points. 564 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,380 Yeah. 565 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:33,740 Yeah. 566 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,260 That's what makes it so simple to sell this. 567 00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:41,380 Cause like you, you're selling it to the municipality for them to market it, but it's not costing 568 00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:44,100 them anything outside of just promoting it themselves. 569 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:45,660 Everyone wins here. 570 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:50,120 I think it'd be fun too, just to see everybody complaining about certain things. 571 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,140 It's kind of like next door, but geolocation. 572 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:53,200 Yes. 573 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:56,500 And it's all, you know, recorded forever on here. 574 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:59,340 They could literally use that as their filing system for complaints. 575 00:23:59,340 --> 00:23:59,920 Yeah. 576 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,980 Any local government. 577 00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:03,140 Gotta figure out the bullying aspect. 578 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:03,600 Yeah. 579 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,840 I was just going to say, there's like a whole gossip scene around our local Facebook groups 580 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,120 that center around our town where it's like. 581 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,020 That's true. 582 00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:15,820 The meta narrative of, oh, can you believe this happened over there again? 583 00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:16,440 Kind of stuff. 584 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,840 You have to somehow skirt that. 585 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,400 And I think the predefined categories is one way to do that. 586 00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:24,180 The McDonald's on 32nd is on fire again. 587 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:25,080 That's his own category. 588 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,480 See you next week. 589 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Well, you know what? 590 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,300 Maybe we do the Waze thing where they, is there a cop still here or is there a fire still 591 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:38,320 here and just have, you know, a little bit of a rotation? 592 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Is that McDonald's still burning down, by the way? 593 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,460 I just thought I'd ask. 594 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:43,180 No big deal. 595 00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:43,760 No hurry. 596 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,800 But just curious. 597 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Is the library burning to the ground? 598 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,080 Is it still on fire? 599 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,480 Right? 600 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,900 It would be kind of fun to troll it. 601 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:57,080 You know, there's been a nuclear incident downtown or something. 602 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,180 Yeah. 603 00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:01,780 You know, that makes me think there's probably, the reporting might be different. 604 00:25:01,780 --> 00:25:04,560 It might be more, like, sustained, right? 605 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,080 Because you have your, like, reports of, there's a big cop showdown or whatever. 606 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,900 Lots of sirens at Centennial Park, right? 607 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:16,320 I see that all the time in, like, Holland Informed or whatever, or whatever, right? 608 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,540 So, it's just none of that. 609 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:21,420 Maybe it is maybe more stuff that's permanent. 610 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:23,160 That's probably reaching out. 611 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,180 Yeah. 612 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:26,520 Otto gets filtered into that miscellaneous category over there. 613 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,100 Yeah. 614 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:27,660 Yeah. 615 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:31,800 The idea of trolling you by dropping a pin on your house every day that says it's just 616 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,460 full of shit. 617 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:36,160 There is poop all over this yard again every day. 618 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,380 Massive hoarding. 619 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:40,420 Junkyard. 620 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:43,420 Every time you open this app, it's going to be like, is there still poop in your yard? 621 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:45,520 You're like, no, stop saying there is. 622 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,740 Yeah. 623 00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:48,020 The trolling would be real. 624 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:49,020 It would. 625 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:50,580 We'd have to ban people. 626 00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:52,500 We'd have to have a moderation system. 627 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:53,140 Oh, man. 628 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:56,080 I would wear a ban from this app as a badge of honor. 629 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,040 Your city bucks. 630 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,380 You're not going to get your city bucks now, Leo. 631 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:05,220 Ah, dang it. 632 00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:05,860 Yeah. 633 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:11,580 There's an element of like, report a liar is what I'll put on there. 634 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:13,600 Publicly. 635 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:13,860 Yeah. 636 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:16,140 You need a way to like publicly flog and shame these people. 637 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:16,460 Right. 638 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:19,340 How do you make trolling not fun on this thing like this? 639 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:19,680 Yeah. 640 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,340 Hmm. 641 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,220 My neighbor would used to, I think it was Holland Informed, he would troll them. 642 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:29,860 Whenever it rains super hard, the drains on our street just don't work and it would always 643 00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:30,140 flood. 644 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:31,140 It would flood every time. 645 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:35,100 And he would just get his kayak out with his kids and they'd kayak up and down 17th Street. 646 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:35,940 Oh, awesome. 647 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:39,740 And then he would post pictures on Holland Informed to be like, can someone fix this? 648 00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:40,120 So. 649 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:40,880 Nice. 650 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,500 He's, he was just ahead at the time. 651 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,660 And long after they fixed it, he's still posting those photos from four years prior. 652 00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:47,480 He saved them. 653 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 I thought we fixed that. 654 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,040 100%. 655 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Scott, were you sledding and tubing behind a car? 656 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,820 Was that you guys in college? 657 00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:59,240 That was me. 658 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,900 Oh, that was not me. 659 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,040 Yeah. 660 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,140 Open the tailgate and go down on a snow day down the road with a sled. 661 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:07,520 Yep. 662 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,140 And then the cops pulled us over. 663 00:27:09,140 --> 00:27:12,300 How'd you explain that one? 664 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:16,400 Well, it was funny because he, I was like sitting in the sled and he pulled up right behind me 665 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,460 and then walked past me. 666 00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:19,120 Cut her loose, cut her loose. 667 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,360 To the car driver. 668 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,060 And you're like, I wonder if he was going to talk to me like a pat, you know, because I'm 669 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:26,180 like driving the sled, you know? 670 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:29,060 It was awesome. 671 00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:29,760 What did he do? 672 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,620 Did you get a ticket? 673 00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:34,360 I think they told us to stop and then that was it. 674 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:35,100 That makes sense. 675 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,320 It was awesome though. 676 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,060 That's so funny. 677 00:27:37,060 --> 00:27:39,900 Highly recommend if you, but. 678 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:45,400 You should ask, can we hook onto the back of your car and do it with the lights and sirens? 679 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,400 We need a police escort. 680 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:48,860 Stab. 681 00:27:48,860 --> 00:27:53,680 That's like the kind of thing you'd take a picture of and say, won't someone plow these 682 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,080 streets? 683 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Jesus. 684 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,920 And put it in your app. 685 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,320 That's true. 686 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,720 There's a person. 687 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,000 There's a person who made an anonymous Facebook page where they spray painted penises over 688 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,420 potholes all over their city in the UK. 689 00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:06,700 Oh yeah. 690 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:08,940 And he named himself Wanksy. 691 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:11,260 Oh wow. 692 00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:16,980 And this person did that on purpose so that the municipality would have to go and fix it 693 00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:17,660 and clean it up. 694 00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,560 And while they were there, they'd fix the pothole. 695 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,080 I love that. 696 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,840 So funny. 697 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,100 I've seen the Domino's ones before. 698 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,380 The Domino's just fixes them and puts their logo on top of it. 699 00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:28,620 Whoa. 700 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:29,760 On public road. 701 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,980 Fixed by Domino's. 702 00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:31,400 You're welcome. 703 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,640 Oh geez. 704 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:33,460 Big corporations. 705 00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:34,340 Big corporations. 706 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:34,880 Yeah. 707 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,840 I hate that. 708 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:44,480 All right, Richard, what do you have for us this week? 709 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,660 Well, I do have a product idea that I'm working on and hopefully Scott's going to help me with 710 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:52,860 it so I can talk about that one at least first. 711 00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:53,520 Let's do it. 712 00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:00,660 I've been helping Velo kids here in the Holland area and they're a non-profit and their goal 713 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:02,240 is to really get kids on bikes. 714 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:09,920 And as a non-profit, you really want to be able to communicate to your donors and the community 715 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,620 on what kind of a difference you're making. 716 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:18,440 And right now, the only metric that they're able to really report is how many kids they 717 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,060 got on bikes. 718 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,940 But I thought it would be really cool if we were to be able to create a device to install 719 00:29:24,940 --> 00:29:33,200 on a bike that we could track how many miles and potentially even give parent an access to 720 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,680 an app and actually show them the trail that they rode and how fast they went. 721 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,120 And a lot of these are camps and stuff. 722 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:49,240 So during the camp, on week one, they're probably getting off the couch. 723 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:52,940 They're going to run onto a bike and they're going to struggle to complete the course. 724 00:29:52,940 --> 00:29:58,720 But by the end of the six-week camp, they're probably rocking it out. 725 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:05,840 And just to be able to show the parents the difference that this program made, this may 726 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,720 have been the very first time that they ever even rode a bike. 727 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,260 Or they might be super competitive and going after it hard. 728 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:22,040 But the metrics still speak pretty loudly for the individual and for the parents, but more 729 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,440 importantly for the program and the donors. 730 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,300 You know, like last year, they literally tripled the amount of kids that they got on bikes. 731 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:36,120 You know, and they're hoping to grow and expand even more this year into the Grand Haven area. 732 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:43,620 And to be able to have some tangible metrics to show like, hey, we not only had 3,000 kids on bikes, 733 00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:47,860 but we rode, you know, how many thousands of miles with these kids. 734 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Totally. 735 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,060 Like that would be pretty cool. 736 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:58,120 And my thought would be like, especially for the first time riders, like this device could even have a camera. 737 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:04,340 You know, I think of a product that Scott had made a while back, you know, that actually captured the moment. 738 00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:04,880 And Russell. 739 00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:17,240 You know, like how cool would it be to capture the kids very first time for actually, you know, riding a bike and be able to, you know, Scott, you could have that as your, your, your highlight video. 740 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,260 You know, that it sends it back to you like, hey, you know, so-and-so your kid, you know, rode their bike for the very first time. 741 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:26,160 And oh, by the way, here's the video of it. 742 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,800 That's great. 743 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,560 It's all existing components. 744 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040 I was just going to say all of this is been demonetized before. 745 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,720 A hundred percent. 746 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,060 GPS, camera. 747 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:42,820 Even bike computers is a category of thing, but I don't think there's distributed bike computers where a fleet is reporting back to like a central tracking thing. 748 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:43,060 Yeah. 749 00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,240 Like the admin is keeping track of all that stuff. 750 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480 I had this exact same problem that you're describing, but with pedometers. 751 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:59,760 Someone came to me at Hope College and said, we want to measure across all these different employees in our dining area, how many steps they all take to see if we can make some of their like trips across the kitchen more efficient. 752 00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:04,120 Some of these employees walk 8,000 steps a day and some walk 20,000 steps. 753 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,240 That's because they're the baker that has to go over to the mixing station, then all the way across to the oven. 754 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,320 And we want to know where we should put the oven. 755 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,720 Right. 756 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,640 And I found one company that targets K-12 schools that is like the, everyone gets a pedometer. 757 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:24,360 And then when they're done at the end of gym class, they snap their pedometers in and it just like collects all the information on the computer. 758 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,080 Oh, yeah. 759 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,300 You kind of, you want that, right? 760 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:29,600 Where you've got like all these bikes with the clipped on computers. 761 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,380 And then at the very end, you get back your mileage and your bike number 12 went on this way and here's their map. 762 00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:42,220 And yeah, you don't have to like worry about making accounts for all these different trackers and getting the data somehow. 763 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:43,300 Dude, that'd be so cool. 764 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:44,200 I love that, Leo. 765 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,300 And for you, Richard, because like that solves all the battery charging issues. 766 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:51,620 Because you're constantly going back, you're just cycling those guys. 767 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:52,620 The data gets downloaded. 768 00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:53,960 We don't need wireless anymore. 769 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,820 I did kind of like the idea of a giant mesh network of a bunch of six-year-olds on bikes and Bluetooth going around. 770 00:33:00,820 --> 00:33:03,440 But this is, I really like that, Leo. 771 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:12,220 Even during the event, you could have like the leaderboard of who's in like what place and, you know, oh, wow, so-and-so's gone and they're in number one or whatever, you know. 772 00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:12,860 Yeah. 773 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:17,420 I mean, this is just the Lime scooter technology minus the scooter, right? 774 00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:24,000 You take all the, I'm sure that those micro SIMs and all that stuff, you just get a little box. 775 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,720 You stick it exactly as Leo said, like boom, throw it on every bike. 776 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,200 That technology is out there. 777 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,220 It's super cheap. 778 00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:33,320 It's just probably a small subscription if you want to use SIM. 779 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,660 If you don't, it probably is just like GPS or something. 780 00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:38,840 You can just create a different set of options. 781 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,660 Awesome. 782 00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:41,660 Local Wi-Fi network or something. 783 00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:42,060 Sure. 784 00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:42,920 Zigbee. 785 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,460 Yeah. 786 00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:45,700 Just a massive Wi-Fi network over everything. 787 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:50,400 Leo, what you're saying though, like this is like a niche case for that. 788 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:58,760 But if you had truly had a device that snaps in, like you said, and had an accelerometer and GPS and all those fun things, there's probably a million applications for that. 789 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,160 Totally. 790 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,460 And any factory. 791 00:34:00,460 --> 00:34:01,260 Factory. 792 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:01,920 Yeah. 793 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,460 Any kind of manufacturing on there. 794 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:04,980 It's like a supercharged AirTag. 795 00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:06,340 Smart AirTag. 796 00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:10,580 With like network, you know, taking the AirTag to the next level, right? 797 00:34:10,580 --> 00:34:11,180 Yeah. 798 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:13,420 And they're already pedaling to make power. 799 00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:20,500 You've got to make it so that it's hooked up to the wheel so that there's a little magnet that's like slowly generating an electric current to keep it charged. 800 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:21,860 Sure. 801 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,700 Just shake it, you know? 802 00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:28,100 Or a little wind turbine on the front that's spinning. 803 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,560 A little beanie. 804 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:42,260 I can't get over the amount of applications that could have this if you had a closed system where, hey, I know all these tags are going to be back at the end of X time in my possession where I can charge, download data, and figure out what to do with it. 805 00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:42,820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 806 00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:44,000 Your Pedometer one's a great example. 807 00:34:44,260 --> 00:34:51,540 I mean, this might be good for like, I don't know, playgrounds or like if you have camps, right, with a bunch of kids, you know, you don't want to lose a kid. 808 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,380 Give them ankle tight and bracelets. 809 00:34:53,380 --> 00:35:03,600 You know, just like, like if you, you know, if you have like a camp where you have a thousand campers, like it's kind of like a peace of mind aspect. 810 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,240 Like, oh, we are missing a kid. 811 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:10,860 Now, just, you know, it'd be nice to know where they are very quickly. 812 00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:13,680 Maybe it's a safety thing for parents, right? 813 00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:25,220 Because like, if you're going to have your kid off walking around in the woods, you know, their middle school, like there's a lot of camp adventures that you kind of want them to go explore, but you don't want them to. 814 00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:26,200 Find a bear. 815 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,720 Well, or just go somewhere they shouldn't or they get lost. 816 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:42,000 Like, it'd be kind of cool to allow kids to like go on a trail, a set of trails and know that we can find them at the end of the day if they happen to go make a right instead of a left, right? 817 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,360 Tons of adventure, like camps out there would need something like this for sure. 818 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,700 Yeah. 819 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:53,480 I think of athletic teams too, like track teams or cross country team. 820 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:04,500 Imagine a real-time dashboard for a coach at a track meet that you could see your athletes and how they're performing. 821 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:20,180 And if you, you know, from that perspective, if you were able to kind of overlay some of their recent training to see if they're like, you know, if they're going to get one of their personal best or, you know, if they're not having the greatest of a day or whatever. 822 00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:33,820 And then, you know, and if they're running more than one event, like you could, you could really kind of connect with them in between races and say, Hey, like, you know, you're, you're underperforming today or man, you're killing it today. 823 00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:39,180 What are you doing different today that you did, you know, at, you know, training over the past week or two? 824 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:39,920 That's great. 825 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,940 You know, as far as implementation goes, it's fun to dream up the hardware and how we would assemble from basic components. 826 00:36:45,940 --> 00:37:00,520 But you could probably do this with software only on an Apple Watch type thing where like either they're using their own device and you somehow registered into your session that you are managing or you have your case of 20 Apple Watches that you already have. 827 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,480 And then that has everything you need, right? 828 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,760 Yep, for sure. 829 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,300 True. 830 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:05,920 You've got GPS accelerometer. 831 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,340 You've got connectivity out. 832 00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:15,040 You've got, you know, you load up the one app that's on there and it's somehow talking back home to home base and reporting out all these stats. 833 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,760 That's incredible. 834 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:25,120 It's basically like Strava or one of those other run apps, but more flexible to a centralized, like, like I'm in charge of all these different trackers at once. 835 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,640 All you need then is a big charging station for a bunch of them. 836 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,880 That's the only hardware you got to make. 837 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:40,160 And then AliExpress, a ton of cheap Android based smartwatches that you put your own and only your own app on there and you're done. 838 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,140 And then sell it for $10,000 to Russell's school. 839 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:44,740 Yeah. 840 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,620 Or camp. 841 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:46,820 Yeah. 842 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:47,620 Yeah. 843 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:49,440 The camp is an interesting thing, too. 844 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,220 Then you just need a box. 845 00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:52,360 You just need a box. 846 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Yeah. 847 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,740 A charger box. 848 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:56,000 A charger box. 849 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,240 Yeah. 850 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:08,000 I remember at my hospital or like when my baby was born, they had like a station with 20 iPhones and everybody in this nurse's station uses iPhones to communicate to each other with the Epic app. 851 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,420 Yeah. 852 00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,380 I mean, it's crazy. 853 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:10,280 iPhone. 854 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,780 Yeah. 855 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:11,200 Why? 856 00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:12,020 Old iPhones. 857 00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:13,380 I don't know. 858 00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:16,540 It's just they're instead of a walkie talkie, they use iPhones. 859 00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:16,820 Right. 860 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:22,080 And so you just take that similar concept, just dock and dock and run. 861 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,580 Right. 862 00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:23,220 Huh. 863 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:24,360 I want to do this. 864 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,020 Yeah. 865 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:27,600 It seems like you could get there with just software, right? 866 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Mm-hmm. 867 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,720 Mm-hmm. 868 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:29,660 You make your app. 869 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:37,060 I wonder if that like the scooter technology or like without the scooter, like you just buy those. 870 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:38,920 I think those are really cheap, actually. 871 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,420 Just like those little devices. 872 00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:41,840 Little like head unit. 873 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,440 Really? 874 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:42,820 Yes. 875 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:43,820 Yeah. 876 00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:49,860 Like not the whole scooter, but like the SIM card GPS combo, like that's within the scooter itself. 877 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,740 You just take those few components out. 878 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:52,140 No kidding. 879 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:53,500 And stick it. 880 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,400 I think, yeah. 881 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:03,020 I was looking at this for next door photo, like for my photo company, like for tracking media, our photographers. 882 00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:07,320 But it was, yeah, I don't, you can buy like a network. 883 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:15,320 Like there's companies out there that are resellers of scooter tech and they sell like the SIM card packages and all that stuff. 884 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,700 And I think there was one that you could bring your own device. 885 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,020 You would buy their, you'd buy their technology that would stick on that scooter. 886 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:24,020 Sure. 887 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,700 But if it doesn't exist, I mean, that's, I mean, just take the three components and throw it in a, you know, a box. 888 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:30,660 You're not as constrained. 889 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:38,860 If you decide to go with your original idea, Richard, of like something that's clipped onto the bike, then you're not as constrained for battery and weight and size and stuff. 890 00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:49,100 You've got a little bit more room to make something that'll last all day and be a little bit less maintenance than fiddling with, you know, getting watch bands and charging them after a couple hours because they're so small and all that. 891 00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,680 The screens too, right? 892 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,740 Like just might add a lot of extra, right? 893 00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:58,020 How smart is the smartest bike computer that you could buy just for yourself? 894 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:03,020 Remember how they had like little like speedometers that you clip onto there and it'll like, look at the wheel. 895 00:40:03,020 --> 00:40:05,540 Do they have those that track location and stuff now? 896 00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:06,300 Can you play Doom on it? 897 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,080 It'll definitely play Doom, I'm sure. 898 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,680 They're, I mean, they've, they've got some that are crazy powerful. 899 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Some of the Garmin stuff for bikes and crazy expensive too. 900 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:30,800 But yeah, some of them will not only, you know, have a GPS and track your ride, but they've got like 4k video capability like built into them. 901 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,440 Wow. 902 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,900 Yeah. 903 00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:33,920 Some of them are pretty out of this world. 904 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,880 When you said 4k video for a brief moment, I thought you meant to watch. 905 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,340 I was like, so you can put like Peloton right into a tree. 906 00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:43,340 Right. 907 00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:44,180 Yeah. 908 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,540 No dash cam, but bike. 909 00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:45,960 That's cool. 910 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,260 Dash. 911 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:46,620 Yeah. 912 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:47,160 Bike cam. 913 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,660 Yeah. 914 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:51,740 I still like the smartwatch version of it because there's just so much flexibility there. 915 00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:57,440 You're a little more weight and battery constrained, but then you do get things like heart rate and all that stuff too, which is cool. 916 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,100 Body metrics. 917 00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:58,680 Yeah. 918 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,100 The key component is you're saying like swap them each time you change out, recharge. 919 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,900 That makes it so much easier. 920 00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:12,880 You could do this for like 5k's and marathons and stuff to get a real time map of where all your people are, not just by bib number. 921 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:18,580 But because some of those, the bibs I think are pretty much all smart nowadays and that's how they'll measure your time. 922 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:27,800 But if you could also get like minute by minute analytics across the whole thing for an optional additional fee, I bet a lot of runners and stuff would sign up for that too. 923 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,560 Absolutely. 924 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,000 They probably, a lot of them probably have Garmin watches and stuff though. 925 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:43,960 Somehow being able to take your Garmins and Fitbits and Apple watches of the world and like contribute that data out to a centralized organizer of an event or something seems like the missing piece there. 926 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,740 And a lot of these platforms probably aren't incentivized to give that data away, huh? 927 00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:48,720 Yeah, that could be. 928 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,600 I think of running, you know, girls on the run. 929 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,420 You know, they're getting middle school, is it middle school? 930 00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:58,220 No, it's elementary school girls. 931 00:41:58,220 --> 00:42:05,640 And they have a program through the school and they run together at least one day a week, maybe two days a week. 932 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,900 And then at the end of the program, they all run a 5k. 933 00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:09,680 Oh, cool. 934 00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:15,880 And, you know, they would totally benefit, you know, because a lot of those kids, they're not going to have the smartwatch, you know. 935 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:24,280 But if the program had some that they could loan out to the different schools, because they don't all do the same 5ks at the same time, right? 936 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:34,380 So if they had a set of these that they could loan out to, you know, the kids at a particular elementary school and they could, you know, not only use it for training, but then use it to run the race. 937 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:44,320 And then to be able to share that data with family and the program and administrative officer or whatever, you know, then they could maybe even use that data to help tailor the program a little bit, too. 938 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:44,680 Yep. 939 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:52,800 Well, dear listener, if you've chosen to listen to the show instead of Eye of the Tiger while you're running your latest 5k, we're very grateful for your time. 940 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,180 Thanks for listening and hope you enjoyed yourself. 941 00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:56,780 And thank you so much, Richard, for joining. 942 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:57,480 This was so fun. 943 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,280 Yeah, you bet. 944 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,000 Thanks for having me. 945 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,500 Yeah, yeah. 946 00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:02,300 Our website is Spitball.show. 947 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