1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,580 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:02,580 --> 00:00:05,680 - I'm Scott. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,520 - I'm Russell. 4 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:07,340 - I'm Leo. 5 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:08,180 This is Spitball. 6 00:00:08,180 --> 00:00:20,360 Welcome to Spitball, the Pitchin' Kitchen. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Where three lovable scamps, that's us, 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,600 empty our heads of all of the startup 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,920 and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,440 and you can all have them for free. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,880 All right, Russell, what do you got? 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,080 All right, guys. 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,640 So my brother, he's been a he's been in the pro gaming scene. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,880 He's not a gamer himself. 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,680 He like ran teams and ran teams. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Yeah. Like he was like a manager, like a general manager for programming. 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,000 He managed pro game teams. 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Yeah. Crazy. 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 He helped get sponsors, do all this stuff. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,240 And then you start seeing all these like, you know, they're athletes, guys. 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,140 These are these e-sporter athletes. 23 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:02,380 Of course. Yes. 24 00:01:02,380 --> 00:01:03,800 It's a college sport now, right? 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Yeah. You get scholarships, you get D1, T1 schools. 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,920 I don't know if that's awesome. 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,680 And so but yeah, now you have all these gaming. 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,040 It's there. 29 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,120 If you think of them as athletes, right? 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,780 What do professional athletes like sell? 31 00:01:17,780 --> 00:01:19,560 Like what's their branding? 32 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,200 They sell like shoes, jerseys, all that other gear. 33 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,100 OK. OK. One thing that's crazy. 34 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:29,620 Okay, this is a mental game, right? 35 00:01:29,620 --> 00:01:31,340 So you gotta train your brain. 36 00:01:31,340 --> 00:01:32,580 You gotta fuel it. 37 00:01:32,580 --> 00:01:33,260 All right. 38 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:35,580 You gotta make sure it's up at the top of the game. 39 00:01:35,580 --> 00:01:39,580 So you gotta, you gotta take your supplements to make your 40 00:01:39,580 --> 00:01:41,740 brain the best brain possible. 41 00:01:41,740 --> 00:01:47,460 I'm talking about, I are like daily vitamins for gamers. 42 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:48,820 Okay. 43 00:01:48,820 --> 00:01:50,780 Performance enhancing. 44 00:01:50,780 --> 00:01:52,580 Oh my God. 45 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:53,860 Uh, not drugs. 46 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:58,640 performance enhancements to your gaming, okay? 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,340 Increase your reaction time. 48 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:01,180 - Sure. 49 00:02:01,180 --> 00:02:02,860 - Be more focused. 50 00:02:02,860 --> 00:02:04,640 Don't just drink caffeine. 51 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,580 Take the healthy way, right? 52 00:02:06,580 --> 00:02:08,980 Here's what's crazy. 53 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:11,740 I take B vitamins every once in a while. 54 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:15,220 You guys ever like, it's the natural stimulants. 55 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:17,060 Pop a five hour energy. 56 00:02:17,060 --> 00:02:18,060 Have you ever taken, like, 57 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:20,940 five hour energies really change my brain? 58 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:21,780 In a good way. 59 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:22,700 - For the better or worse, okay. 60 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:23,540 - Really? 61 00:02:23,540 --> 00:02:26,360 I like, like it's not like I'm shaky and stuff. 62 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,200 - How so? 63 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,020 - It's, I can, I'm just like connected to what I'm doing. 64 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:35,060 Like I'm more, I'm less shaky, I'm less like ADD. 65 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:37,740 It's like an ADD add on, I don't know. 66 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:40,580 It's like reduces it. 67 00:02:40,580 --> 00:02:42,580 So I take, I would take not 5-Hour Energies, 68 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:45,260 but my buddy, our buddy, Sean Lin, 69 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:49,180 he told me about these B vitamin things. 70 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:50,420 I start taking them and I'm like, 71 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:53,400 whoa, I can like work better, focus more. 72 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,440 - This isn't like placebo, you're actually feeling like, 73 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,180 "Oh crap, this is really helping." 74 00:02:57,180 --> 00:02:59,760 - Yes, B vitamins. - That's awesome. 75 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,600 - Really? 76 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,920 - Multiplex, I don't know what the heck they get at Costco, 77 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,040 but this like giant bar of them, 78 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,360 I take it, makes your pee like Gatorade green. 79 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,200 I don't know what. 80 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,440 (laughing) 81 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 So talk about, are you sure you weren't just 82 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,080 vitamin deficient before? - It's not a side effect, 83 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,080 it's a feature. 84 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,080 - I might be vitamin, like I might need more B vitamins 85 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,920 in my life. 86 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,040 All that to say, all right, sometimes when you're, 87 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,020 like even when you're lifting, right, 88 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:31,140 some people take it and you get the mind-body connection 89 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:32,680 better, right? 90 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,200 I'm talking about a set of vitamins 91 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,280 that you probably should take. 92 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,080 Gamers are not the most nutritious type of people, right? 93 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,120 And so you kind of sell it like IRLs, your dailies. 94 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Like there's all these terms that gamers use 95 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,320 when they're doing like gaming. 96 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,160 So you got your dailies, your weeklies, your monthlies 97 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,880 or whatever, turn those into vitamins 98 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 and now you're a better gamer, right? 99 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Stop drinking G fuel. 100 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,860 - This idea is growing on me. 101 00:04:02,860 --> 00:04:05,180 - Okay, this is good. 102 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:08,160 Like it's your pre-workout before your game. 103 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Take, yes, like. 104 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,080 - This idea is brilliant because it already exists 105 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,840 and you just wanna put a different label on it. 106 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,240 This is a marketing pitch. 107 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,080 This is not a, yeah. 108 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,200 going to buy not endorsed by the FDA dot com real quick. 109 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,000 People do it all the time. 110 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,120 They just take you could partner. 111 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,440 There's got to be some GNC drugstore brand that's ready to partner with you. 112 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,120 You become the consultant. Yes. 113 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,600 That's that's so smart, too. 114 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,800 You probably don't have to change any recipe or anything. 115 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 I'm sure there is something out there that is currently being mass produced 116 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 that you could market in the right way to be like, enhance your, 117 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,880 you know, mental abilities and reflexes up by X percent. 118 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 You stamp a lightning bolts or something on it. 119 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,700 - Yeah. 120 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:52,540 - Exactly. 121 00:04:52,540 --> 00:04:55,240 You have a big display case that's RGB. 122 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,080 I'm in. 123 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,560 - Yes, none of it's FDA regulated too. 124 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,720 So literally vitamins, supplements. 125 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Yeah, there's this weird. 126 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,600 - What? 127 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,880 - Yeah, protein powder, I guess, 128 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,960 and all this other stuff is just not, 129 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,480 you're kind of at your own risk there. 130 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,040 I don't know the full, don't quote me on it, 131 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,720 but I know it's not like the same as food and drugs. 132 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,280 I don't know why they're allowed to do it. 133 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,780 - It's a mixture of both, which means unregulated. 134 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:25,760 - Which, but also-- 135 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,760 - We were the Food or Drugs Administration, not ant drugs. 136 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,960 We can't do food or drugs at the same time. 137 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,500 - They'll never see it coming. 138 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:38,240 - Oh, that's so smart. 139 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 It's so, not easy, but like, 140 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 it's so doable to advertise for that too. 141 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Couple of intense gamer influencers, 142 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,080 or just call your brother. 143 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,540 I mean, yeah, he could. 144 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:51,300 There's connections out there and people would take this 145 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,940 and like it replaces the Mountain Dews, it replaces 146 00:05:54,940 --> 00:05:58,980 all the other stuff that people are supplements probably more aware of now. 147 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:02,800 Yeah. Like those are our current supplements for gamers, right? 148 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,240 Like we drink my Mountain Dew or have all this other stuff. 149 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,240 But now it's like, oh, I'm just going to pop a I don't know, a stimpack 150 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,700 or something, you know, you call it like Dimpak. 151 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:14,240 Oh, Stimpak's a good name for that. 152 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,700 Yeah, like video gamey recognizable as Fallout. 153 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,940 But yeah, there you go. 154 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:24,680 Like or partner with Bethesda, there's probably some like, yeah, 155 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,980 it's fallout fallout over 20 years old yet. 156 00:06:26,980 --> 00:06:29,280 Oh my gosh. OK, here's you. 157 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:33,080 You can rebrand it or like have special editions for certain games. 158 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,360 You want to promote that new game coming out. 159 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,960 We we rebranded this to match your, you know, this game 160 00:06:41,660 --> 00:06:44,860 Instead of the Flintstone vitamins or little Zelda vitamins now, 161 00:06:44,860 --> 00:06:50,600 little Minecraft creepers, you must construct additional vitamins. 162 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,380 It's like the Halo Mountain Dew or World of Warcraft Mountain Dews 163 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:57,140 or whatever a dish Call of Duty does this all the time, you know. 164 00:06:57,140 --> 00:07:01,140 But get a special code when you buy our vitamins. 165 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:04,160 God, you could just keep diving into this more and more. 166 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,180 This is the best one for RTS. 167 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:09,760 This is the best one for first person shooters for this reason. 168 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,700 Yeah, and there are some gamers that are just like, I invest all my money 169 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:15,020 into my gaming setup. 170 00:07:15,020 --> 00:07:15,940 Why not invest it in? 171 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:18,060 Yeah, like invest in yourself. 172 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:19,740 Yes. Oh, wow. 173 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:22,460 I'm a better gamer every day. 174 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:24,960 I put my take my supplements. 175 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,660 I do my stretches. 176 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:27,760 You know, we could be the. 177 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Yeah. 178 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,800 If you see like those hand exercises that you like, 179 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,760 and it can extend your fingers with that little rubber thing in the center, 180 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,260 have that as part of the promotion. 181 00:07:35,260 --> 00:07:36,680 That's the starter kit. 182 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,020 Increased strength in your hand. 183 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:40,700 This is a starter thumb workout regimens 184 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:46,360 and then just a bottle of Adderall. 185 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Dude, I think that's like right in a way. 186 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Adderall is the the illegal substance, I think, in gaming 187 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,100 or like there's got to be like a line right in there. 188 00:07:56,100 --> 00:08:00,300 But so where where the the you know, the regular supplements 189 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:02,700 before you go down hard drugs, 190 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:04,800 giving it crap. 191 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,860 But I actually I really like this idea. 192 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:08,320 Do let's just do it. 193 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,840 This will be the first product released on Spitball. 194 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,360 No. 195 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,820 And last, once the FDA shuts us down, because your honor, we swear 196 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:18,540 we thought that that wasn't regulated. 197 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:24,160 We had disclaimers may not do anything. 198 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,260 Dude, that's what liquid IV is, though, right? 199 00:08:27,260 --> 00:08:32,280 Like you get like people buy that shit all the time for like, I don't know. 200 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,180 Yeah, it's just powdered Gatorade, right? 201 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:36,060 It's great. 202 00:08:36,060 --> 00:08:36,440 I love it. 203 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,180 Gatorade. 204 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:40,380 They just took Gatorade powder and put it in pouches. 205 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:42,060 Pedialyte, yeah. 206 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:43,500 They'll be vials though. 207 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:46,380 They'll be in glass vials with a cork. 208 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:47,220 Oh God. 209 00:08:47,220 --> 00:08:48,040 Boom. 210 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:54,060 Are there mixed drink or beer or alcohol 211 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:56,340 that's marketed as like the healthy option? 212 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:57,340 Not like light beers, 213 00:08:57,340 --> 00:08:59,780 but something that has vitamins and stuff in it. 214 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:00,620 Oh. 215 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:02,500 That seems like a niche too. 216 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,900 Some kind of kombucha if I had to guess. 217 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:07,140 You're gonna drink the Bud Light anyway, 218 00:09:07,140 --> 00:09:08,940 but what about Bud Light Enhanced 219 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:12,740 that has 12 essential vitamins and minerals? 220 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:14,320 - Bud Light Enhanced. 221 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,460 Didn't the vitamin water people get sued 222 00:09:18,460 --> 00:09:20,500 'cause they were saying their drink is healthy? 223 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,220 - It's just sugar water, yeah. 224 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:24,460 Vitamin water is way far away 225 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:26,780 from like Gatorade and Pedialyte, yeah. 226 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:30,900 - Okay, what if you combine liquid IV in a drink, 227 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:32,780 liquid IV and alcohol, okay? 228 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:36,900 No hangover, you can drink as much as you possibly want 229 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:39,020 because every time you drink, you're actually 230 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:41,060 having a liquid IV too. 231 00:09:41,060 --> 00:09:42,060 Oh, man. 232 00:09:42,060 --> 00:09:45,260 Did we just solve hangovers for the-- 233 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:47,100 I think that's it. 234 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:50,000 And you have to buy 10 of them and drink them all in order 235 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,060 to feel anything. 236 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:55,020 So we have our built-in recurring revenue. 237 00:09:55,020 --> 00:09:56,820 All right, we'll sprinkle a little ibuprofen 238 00:09:56,820 --> 00:09:57,980 in every bottle, all right? 239 00:09:57,980 --> 00:09:58,480 We just-- 240 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,060 [LAUGHTER] 241 00:10:01,060 --> 00:10:05,780 Grind up ibuprofen in liquid IV, put it in an alcoholic drink. 242 00:10:05,780 --> 00:10:08,820 We'll call it Five Loko. 243 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:11,820 Five ibuprofen in each. 244 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:14,420 All right, we strayed away from your idea, but I love it. 245 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:18,020 I mean, it's applicable to other industries, right? 246 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:20,740 I feel like you could apply this to school, maybe. 247 00:10:20,740 --> 00:10:21,300 I don't know. 248 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,940 You could say, hey, instead of being a better gamer, 249 00:10:23,940 --> 00:10:26,120 you're a better student, right? 250 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,240 You could rebrand it to that. 251 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,060 It's about training the brain, making 252 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:33,840 it have all the vitamins, the soup that your brain is sitting 253 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,600 is filled and ready to go for your day. 254 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,440 I don't know. 255 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,580 - You're selling me. 256 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:43,780 It's just truly a marketing exercise there. 257 00:10:43,780 --> 00:10:44,620 - It really is. 258 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:46,900 - Existing products, slap your own label on, 259 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:49,900 drop ship it, and then advertise like crazy. 260 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:51,940 - Dude, and like, sometimes vitamins are like, 261 00:10:51,940 --> 00:10:53,780 all these vitamins are a little confusing. 262 00:10:53,780 --> 00:10:57,020 Like, should I take D3, fish oil? 263 00:10:57,020 --> 00:10:59,120 There's an element of like, all right, 264 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,260 what vitamin do I take? 265 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:03,500 Let's just gamify it a little bit. 266 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:07,780 Or make it just more like, oh, I take these every day 267 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:13,180 because it's just what IRL vitamins or dailies, my dailies tell me. 268 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:17,380 Right. There is definitely a skew toward old in the multivitamin 269 00:11:17,380 --> 00:11:21,820 like centrum silver looking like I've I've never really taken a multivitamin 270 00:11:21,820 --> 00:11:25,160 before because it looks like it's targeted toward people who are 100 years old. 271 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,160 If there was some hip and trendy with the hashtag teens multivitamin, 272 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,560 I might at least look at it. 273 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:35,660 You know, I walk by that island think that I cannot possibly be relevant to my life right now 274 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:39,700 And maybe I'm just gotta be something between the Flintstones. Yeah, exactly 275 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:45,260 Okay, what is the Gen Z? We'll call it like slay, you know slay your day 276 00:11:45,260 --> 00:11:49,300 Slay vitamins 277 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,020 Every day slay 278 00:11:52,020 --> 00:11:56,340 Your everyday slay yeah, multivitamins suck by the way 279 00:11:56,340 --> 00:12:01,380 I just feel like there's something about multivitamins that I don't like. They're targeted towards old people. 280 00:12:01,380 --> 00:12:04,040 How would you say neon green urine afterwards? 281 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:11,540 I mean it feels, when I take my B vitamins, it feels like I'm doing something. Even if it doesn't because of 282 00:12:11,540 --> 00:12:18,120 Because my pee comes out a little like neon. Like I don't want to, but all that to say is it's like oh man 283 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,120 I'm performance enhancing right now. 284 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:26,180 All right, Scott, what do you got? 285 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:28,420 - All right, so this is a very half-baked one 286 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:32,140 that I was thinking about literally on the way over here. 287 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:35,780 So the IRS, off to a good start, 288 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:38,740 allows you to do, like you can do deductions 289 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:39,980 for your home business right here. 290 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:43,080 I can write off pretty much anything 291 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,300 as long as it's related to my business. 292 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:46,940 If I'm using a certain room in my house, 293 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:48,340 I can say that it's my office 294 00:12:48,340 --> 00:12:49,900 and this many square feet goes towards that. 295 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:52,580 If I'm driving somewhere for my business, 296 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:54,100 picking up something, buying parts, 297 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,420 I can write off the gas that I used on that 298 00:12:56,420 --> 00:12:57,980 and any maintenance on my car. 299 00:12:57,980 --> 00:13:00,260 There is so much potential in there, 300 00:13:00,260 --> 00:13:02,820 and I'm wondering, is there a way that we could optimize 301 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:06,760 that or create an easy guide or blog or something 302 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,820 in order to guide people to get the most that they can 303 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:13,100 out of their tax return at the end of the year? 304 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,500 Not like H&R Block or TurboTax being like, 305 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:16,780 oh, you can deduct this and this. 306 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:19,240 Like, no, we're gonna help you set up a business 307 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,080 and do the absolute minimal work possible 308 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,440 for the IRS to consider it a business 309 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,400 and also give you a step-by-step instructions 310 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,960 of what you're allowed to write off 311 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,480 up to how much you're allowed to write off 312 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,480 before it raises a flag at the IRS. 313 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Please don't come after me. 314 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,440 - You wanna create the next TurboTax. 315 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,120 This is a supplemental TurboTax, 316 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,560 but instead of marking all the things 317 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:42,360 that you got for income or whatever, 318 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,440 you are marking all of the, 319 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,600 it's asking you a question and answer style. 320 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,920 - Yeah, more of like the precursor to that. 321 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Like here is how you do this throughout the year. 322 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,920 You could set up a business, call it whatever you want, 323 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,000 and you claim that it does this, 324 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 and by doing that and these couple additional steps, 325 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,560 maybe you could sell one item or however much it requires 326 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,160 for it to be considered a business. 327 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,760 - Dude, it makes sense. 328 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,360 People do this all the time. 329 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Like people are doing this every, 330 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,520 it's like every single person. 331 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,360 - Oh yeah, absolutely. 332 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,200 - Right? 333 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,920 So there's, I feel like two ways to look at it, right? 334 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Can I, how broad can I be? 335 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,000 What's the business that's super broad? 336 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,500 And then what can I write off? 337 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:25,340 Right? 338 00:14:25,340 --> 00:14:26,160 - Yep. 339 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,880 - And like the minimal amount of work, right? 340 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,300 So it's like, I think of vloggers, right? 341 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:35,220 You can be the worst vlogger or podcaster. 342 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:36,720 (laughing) 343 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,120 - But as long as you have a vlog up on a website 344 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,780 that is talking relatively close 345 00:14:41,780 --> 00:14:44,720 to what you're vlogging about, that's brilliant. 346 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,000 - Every time you try to- 347 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,800 - You needed that $6,000 gaming rig for editing. 348 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,820 We've seen a 600,000% increase in vloggers this year. 349 00:14:52,820 --> 00:14:55,140 - Guys, when you travel, every time you travel, 350 00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:58,600 just take a vlog video, upload it to YouTube. 351 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,380 Doesn't have to be good. 352 00:15:00,380 --> 00:15:01,940 It's just gotta be there. 353 00:15:01,940 --> 00:15:04,820 And then the IRS is like, I guess you did this for work. 354 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:06,500 Wow. (laughs) 355 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:08,180 I mean, when they watch the video, it'll be bad, 356 00:15:08,180 --> 00:15:10,540 but like that's, you can write off everything. 357 00:15:10,540 --> 00:15:12,420 - If you haven't messed up your taxes before, 358 00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:13,920 the IRS gives you one freebie. 359 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,260 So maybe we're gonna use up to that freebie. 360 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:20,100 - That freebie is a secret. 361 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:24,900 - So the punishment, the stick that the IRS wields 362 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:26,640 is the audit, right? 363 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,600 So maybe how you guarantee this with your insurance 364 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,340 that you're selling to them is audit guidance 365 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:34,060 or protection, 'cause this is gonna make your chances 366 00:15:34,060 --> 00:15:34,900 skyrocket, right? 367 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:36,020 - Oh. 368 00:15:36,020 --> 00:15:36,860 - Right? 369 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:41,860 So you'd have the, you are more likely to get audited 370 00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:43,740 and here's exactly what you need. 371 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:45,880 Let us help you prepare for it ahead of time 372 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,280 so that it's easy to go through by the TurboTax audit insurance. 373 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,680 That's it's one step. 374 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,120 No, that's a really good idea, though. 375 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,220 Gives you a guide of how to make it as least likely as possible to get audited 376 00:15:56,220 --> 00:15:59,620 while still optimizing your deductions and tax return. 377 00:15:59,620 --> 00:16:01,820 How to start a sham business to 378 00:16:01,820 --> 00:16:04,480 commit tax fraud. 379 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Step one, don't call it a sham. 380 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,320 I mean, like, that's the thing. 381 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,780 If you make it like what is defining the business, 382 00:16:11,780 --> 00:16:14,320 it's not the quality of the business, right? 383 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,520 It's you don't have to be a good business to get a write off, 384 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,420 which is why. Yeah, you could. 385 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:24,980 Like you could start a fitness blog or a travel blog, 386 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:26,260 and all you do is write off. 387 00:16:26,260 --> 00:16:27,960 I go and travel all the time. 388 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Every time I travel, I take 50% of the costs. 389 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,320 Oh, I like that. 390 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,560 You start as a questionnaire on our on this website 391 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,760 that guides you through this process. 392 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,260 You'd be like, what do you do? 393 00:16:39,260 --> 00:16:40,620 Like, do you like exercise? 394 00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:41,960 Do you like birdwatching? 395 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Do you like whatever? 396 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,460 Put your hobbies and your work and everything in here, 397 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:49,000 and we will give you the optimal business, the optimal write offs for it. 398 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,560 You drive a company car. 399 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,440 You live in company housing. 400 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 It's the company of housing. 401 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,300 Yeah, right. 402 00:16:55,300 --> 00:17:00,500 I mean, churches and schools and stuff do it. 403 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:04,360 Universities, I mean, it's got to be legal for them to own housing 404 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:07,200 and rent it or give it free to an employee. 405 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 It's not like a huge win, right? 406 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,760 You're not going to be making unless you're making a lot of money or not. 407 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,500 You're you'll I don't know how much money is there, 408 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:19,200 like five grand a year, maybe, let's say in tax. 409 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,760 I'd be I'd do that in a heartbeat if I could get five. 410 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Yeah, that's true. 411 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,640 That's pretty huge. 412 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,300 Like but like even like two to three grand. 413 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:29,860 But then you're kind of, I don't know, doing you can 414 00:17:29,860 --> 00:17:33,240 you can actually apply it to something that you're interested in doing. 415 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,140 You're in a way helping people create a starting point for their business. 416 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:39,600 Right. Like that they may be interested in. 417 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,000 Like, "Oh, I've always wanted to start a blah business. 418 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,500 Great, let's put that under this umbrella." 419 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:50,500 Maybe it's like umbrella-izing a bunch of people's ideas 420 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:51,980 or what they do. 421 00:17:51,980 --> 00:17:55,500 - This pitch you've devised requires a small army 422 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:57,900 of extremely proficient tax lawyers 423 00:17:57,900 --> 00:17:58,740 who are willing to commit tax fraud. 424 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:01,580 - Nope, just one very disgruntled accountant. 425 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,100 - There you go. - That's true. 426 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:06,020 - I suppose that once you set it up once, 427 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:07,780 unless there's a big change in tax law, 428 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:09,980 It doesn't need to be changed too much, right? 429 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:11,360 Yeah. 430 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:15,260 I guess your exit strategy is do this until you force the IRS 431 00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:18,000 to change the rules because you've broken the system so much. 432 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,060 And what's so wrong with that? 433 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:23,800 Right. Like Congress isn't going to pass any changes. 434 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,300 I don't know. 435 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,000 I think a lot of people are becoming more savvy to this, too. 436 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,500 I think you're just helping an already existing trend 437 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:36,080 make more sense to people so you don't feel like the dangers of 438 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:37,560 Am I going to get audited? 439 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Exactly. 440 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,060 It's intimidating because you're afraid of that audit. 441 00:18:41,060 --> 00:18:44,600 But at the same time, you don't need to go out and even get an LLC 442 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,760 or a partnership for this. 443 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,940 You could do this as a sole proprietor. 444 00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:50,360 Here's my small business. Here's my write offs. 445 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,260 And you know what? I do this. 446 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:53,700 I do this to some extent. 447 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:56,780 I still have my consulting technology business. Right. 448 00:18:56,780 --> 00:19:01,320 And it it was booming before COVID or during COVID. 449 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,480 And then it kind of is like petering off. Right. 450 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,520 I throw some money in there, but every time I buy like AirPods or something, right? 451 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:15,160 I put it, it's a business expense, but then there's a lot of, you know, gray area. 452 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,880 Let's say that. 453 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,880 Don't quote me IRS, but like this is a, for the podcast, 454 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,240 we're entertaining purposes only. 455 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Uh, but sometimes you buy a thing, you know, like a pair of AirPods or a new 456 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,080 computer and sure, 50% of it's being used for business. 457 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,680 You write 100% of it off, right? 458 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,440 One ear pod is for business. 459 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,400 The other one's for me for entertainment purposes only. 460 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,480 But yes, that's exactly like it's I mean, that's the thing. 461 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,640 I mean, accountants that we've talked to or I've worked with in the past 462 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,760 are always like it is a little bit the IRS is going to want you to do this. 463 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,800 And when you do the audit, it's just about correcting what you did wrong. 464 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,600 They're not like trying to dig for fines at you the whole time. 465 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,680 at least my understanding. 466 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,120 So never been audited. 467 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,080 So people have been audited. 468 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Feel free to join our show. 469 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,320 We can love to hear you. 470 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,720 That's the way. 471 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,480 But yeah, right in podcasts, it's about that show. 472 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Yeah. 473 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,640 It's about your recent audit experience. 474 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Next week, I really wish I hadn't said that. 475 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:35,240 All right, Leo, what's your idea? 476 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,240 All right. 477 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,960 So the thing that makes the time hop app successful, that 478 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,680 app that you sign into, and then it pops up 10 years ago, 479 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,480 you did this right is nostalgia. 480 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,920 People love a play where they are reminded of old moments. 481 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,880 The thing that they had forgotten about is dug back up from 482 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,360 the Internet. 483 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:55,560 Right. 484 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:03,560 I am weird in that I have nostalgia for early technology that I owned, and I think that I'm not alone in this. 485 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:11,560 So, this is part time hop, knockoff, and part forum signature generator. 486 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:22,560 I would love to have a web app, a website that I go to, and I just type in and search for every phone that I have owned from the beginning to the end to generate an image to share with. 487 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:29,160 It is so easy to make something like that viral where you have the image that it spits out with your website.com 488 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,920 watermarked in the corner where you just say you're the first five 489 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,480 laptops that I had 490 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,480 20 years ago to now and how they've changed and see them all stacked up side by side and to get 491 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Specs and to see release date and how long did you have them and all that stuff and a nice little infographic generator 492 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,720 I'd love to have a forum signature generator where I can put in every phone 493 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,920 I've owned 'cause I kind of do it by hand in Photoshop once in a while when I remember. 494 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,200 And I've got 15, 20 phones on there and it's fun to see them all side by side. 495 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 And people have weird pride for things like that. 496 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,560 I think I'm not alone. 497 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:12,400 So yeah, I want to go to smartphone.history and type in everything and get like a, you 498 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,440 know, there's databases out there of every phone ever made with pictures and stuff. 499 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,800 You could even see them like relative to size to see how big all the phones have gotten 500 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,800 over the years. 501 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,920 And you have that built in virality. 502 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,520 Like I said, you've got your share to Facebook, 503 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,880 share to Twitter, share to Mastodon, 504 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,300 share to whatever buttons right on it. 505 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:30,320 And people can collaborate and talk about them. 506 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Here's the link to mine, what's yours? 507 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,960 And you just kind of have a little thing 508 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,960 to reminisce over, you know? 509 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,800 - Yes, I love this. 510 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,600 I had the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 when it was popular. 511 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,280 - Is that the exploding one? 512 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,120 - That's the exploding one. 513 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,120 That you can't bring out an airplane? 514 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,320 But you don't have it anymore, right? You would have sent it in. 515 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320 I can't disclose that legally. 516 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,320 The IRS is listening still. 517 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,200 Right. 518 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200 They called their friends at the FBI. 519 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,120 They're calling over. 520 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:04,620 Exactly. 521 00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:11,160 No, I think it's cool because like especially for millennial types like us who kind of grew up with the boom, 522 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:18,460 you can kind of see, oh you had the Nokia, like how cool would it be to have the Nokia phone that everybody talks about in your 523 00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:20,300 or your list, right? 524 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:21,860 People wanna talk about that. 525 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:24,660 - There were moments, the first iPhone 526 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:26,180 and the Motorola Razr. 527 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:29,040 And there were these iconic devices for us. 528 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,420 There were the shitty Verizon feature phones, 529 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,500 like the LG Chocolate or whatever, right? 530 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,140 So people are like, "Oh, I totally remember 531 00:23:36,140 --> 00:23:37,700 "having that one specific thing." 532 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:40,180 And it's kind of this bonding experience 533 00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:42,220 for young millennials like us, I guess. 534 00:23:42,220 --> 00:23:45,940 - Okay, have you heard of TierList.com? 535 00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:48,500 - Or you can like, it's, it reminds me of that. 536 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:50,180 You have like S, A. 537 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:51,020 - What is it? 538 00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:51,840 - You rank. 539 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,680 - The tier maker. 540 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,380 - Yeah, you rank random things, right? 541 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:58,940 So like Disney movies, you rank them from S tier, 542 00:23:58,940 --> 00:24:01,220 A tier, B, C, D. 543 00:24:01,220 --> 00:24:03,580 And people then talk about, 544 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:08,060 why the heck did you rate it D or C or A or F or S, right? 545 00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:08,900 - Totally. 546 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:09,880 - And so everybody's talking about that. 547 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,620 So I guess it's kind of like, 548 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:14,220 if you created a similar app that does that, 549 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,700 but for your history of, I mean, 550 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:18,300 you can apply this to devices, 551 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:19,840 you can apply this to other things, 552 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,940 but like, that's cool. 553 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:24,300 Totally doable and totally viral. 554 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:25,460 Like, yeah. 555 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:26,300 - And as a side note, 556 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:28,500 I do need to make an S tier, A tier, B tier list 557 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:29,900 of every phone I've ever owned now. 558 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:30,900 (laughing) 559 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:31,740 - You see? 560 00:24:31,740 --> 00:24:32,860 - He's gonna start on that immediately. 561 00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:34,420 - Palm pre, number one, baby. 562 00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:35,420 Never let webOS die. 563 00:24:35,420 --> 00:24:36,620 - Dude, that's how you start it. 564 00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:38,060 That's how you market it. 565 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:38,900 Go to MarketLeo. 566 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:41,140 You do the tier list of phones 567 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:42,980 and you say, I built this on- 568 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:44,060 - Tier maker, yeah. 569 00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:45,100 - Time phone. 570 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:49,220 - Oh, you're thinking mine should be just a direct knockoff 571 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:50,060 this new site? 572 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:51,380 - Did you do a little bit of, 573 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:53,940 I mean, you can't copyright tier list, right? 574 00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:55,820 Like that's just a freaking box. 575 00:24:55,820 --> 00:24:57,940 - Use it as a very encouraging baseline 576 00:24:57,940 --> 00:24:59,500 for what you're doing. 577 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,540 - I think the secret sauce of this would be the database 578 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:02,540 that it pulls from, right? 579 00:25:02,540 --> 00:25:06,700 You could have, all I type in is Palm Pre or iPhone 580 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:07,900 and it's the list of all of them. 581 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,820 - Yeah, I do not remember any types of phones that I have, 582 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:13,620 but just the very general, like it was like an Evo, 583 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:14,660 something, something, something. 584 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:17,700 And if you popped up all the ones with filter by what carrier I was on 585 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,160 filter by a couple of years where I know I had it. 586 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,460 Oh, there it is. 587 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:23,560 Oh, wow. That's right. It did look like that. 588 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,400 You know, you have that moment for yourself and then you share it 589 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,520 because you're excited about it. 590 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,760 Nostalgia is such a big seller for that, too. 591 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,500 I really wanted one of the first ideas I ever wanted to try 592 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:34,420 and I never got around to it. 593 00:25:34,420 --> 00:25:36,220 So here you can have this one for free, too. 594 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:38,600 I always wanted to do like a day in the life of me. 595 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,300 That would be the name of the company. 596 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:41,660 And you go and you rent. 597 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:43,560 This is before body cams were a thing. 598 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,000 You essentially rent a body cam and you wear it all day. 599 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,500 It just to be like, well, what was a day in the life of high school? 600 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,560 Scott, like, and you know, it goes to all the sporting. 601 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,040 They ran cross country. 602 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,040 He did homework. 603 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,900 His walk to school or whatever. 604 00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:59,840 I'd love to see that right now. 605 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,340 What I was doing, who I was talking to, what people look like. 606 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,360 And I'm sure 20 years from this moment right now, I'd love to see 607 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,700 what I'm doing today. 608 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:07,860 So it's just a way to encourage that. 609 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:10,660 But then technology got too fast and caught up. 610 00:26:10,660 --> 00:26:12,840 Now everyone's got a camera in their pocket. 611 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,120 It's incriminating too now. 612 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:17,720 Everybody's so worried about everybody, you know, self-incriminating. 613 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Body cams for life. 614 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,000 No, sir. 615 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Body cams don't invoke a happy feelings in people right now. 616 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,680 Cameras on the face or wherever in general, people had a pretty 617 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,400 allergic reaction to a few years back with like Google glass and all that. 618 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Yeah. 619 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,440 That'd be cool for the tier list though. 620 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Like you said, like, I don't know, I bought the Google glass. 621 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840 I owned it. 622 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,560 You know? 623 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,440 interesting tech accessories you've owned over the years or something. Yeah. 624 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,840 I don't know. I feel like there's elements. Yeah. Like what else is there? 625 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,160 Like I think just display, like there's like trophies, 626 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,520 things that you don't want to throw away, you know, 627 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,720 and then you want to take a picture or have some sort of validation of it. 628 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,360 I had this, you know, that way you could throw it away, 629 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:07,080 get rid of the box or whatever. Sure. Um, whoa. 630 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960 If you say blockchain or NFT though, I'm kicking you off the show. 631 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,400 - Oh, there we go. 632 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,220 Let's bring it back. 633 00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:13,760 - No digital trophies. 634 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,600 - Right? 635 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920 I don't, I think there's something there. 636 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,500 (upbeat music) 637 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:24,140 - All right, so we had one of our first guests write-ins 638 00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:25,900 with submitting an idea. 639 00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:30,140 All they have said here though is "grinder for dogs." 640 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:32,340 And I'm not really sure where they were trying 641 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:33,160 to go for this one. 642 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,340 So thank you, Phil @PJPhil. 643 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:39,500 Yeah, so. 644 00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:40,860 - If you'd like to send in your own ideas, 645 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,300 it's podcast@spinball.show. 646 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,780 They could be as simple as that pitch. 647 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:47,420 - We can make this work. 648 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:48,260 Okay, so-- 649 00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:50,420 - Does Grindr for dogs insist that they're gay? 650 00:27:50,420 --> 00:27:55,760 - No, I was more thinking of like the GPS aspects of it, 651 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,780 but like-- 652 00:27:56,780 --> 00:27:58,740 - What is the GPS aspect of Grindr? 653 00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:02,020 - Grindr is fascinating compared to the other dating apps. 654 00:28:02,020 --> 00:28:04,820 So like Tinder or Bumble or whatever, 655 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:06,540 they're all looking, you know, 656 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:07,940 you can see someone's profile 657 00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:10,140 The mechanism is swipe left or right. 658 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:14,080 Grinder is just, hey, these are the people within your area. 659 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,820 X proximity. 660 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:17,080 And here's their profiles. 661 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Really? 662 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480 That you can react to from there. 663 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,920 So so it's always changing. 664 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,020 Yeah. So maybe grinder for dogs would be you go to a dog park and like deer. 665 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:28,440 Oh man, how would this work? 666 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,720 You set up your profile. 667 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,740 They set up their profiles. 668 00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:32,920 They bang in our dogs, banging each other. 669 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,340 You know, I think that's where they have. 670 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:36,080 That's where the confusion. 671 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,480 No, you pull up and hold on. 672 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,820 Oh, I got you still thinking. 673 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,680 What is what is this guy trolling us? 674 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,120 You pull up in a parking lot 675 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,980 and you happen to glance at your app 676 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:45,820 and says there are currently 12 dogs here. 677 00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:47,280 There's this, this, this and this. 678 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,820 He needs a little bit of distance. 679 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:51,080 That one over there is super extra friendly 680 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,180 and loves the breed that you happen to have. 681 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:53,980 That's amazing. 682 00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:56,820 You get the full profile of any dogs that are coming here. 683 00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:59,980 Or, you know, who's at the dog park at this time. 684 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:02,740 You can look at the popularity of the different times 685 00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:05,320 or your dog is a best friend if you go to a dog park enough. 686 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,560 The Pokédex for dogs. 687 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,240 The Pokédex for dogs. 688 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,920 There you go. 689 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 He's taking a picture of the dog and it knows. 690 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,000 On Grindr. 691 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,760 No, I'm just... 692 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Pokédogs. 693 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Pokédogs. 694 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,040 They can play, I guess. 695 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Like, I wonder what else you could do. 696 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Like, so is it... 697 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:30,600 I wonder if he was like, when he submitted this, was looking for like an app to like play with dogs or, you know, did he leave a description? 698 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,160 Like, is it like, hey, let's do some doggy playdates. 699 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240 The message consisted of those three words, 700 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 grinder for dogs. 701 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,040 So that is what we are working with here. 702 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,880 - You know, quality posts for quality podcasts. 703 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840 You know what I mean? 704 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200 Yeah, okay, all right. 705 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,200 So GPS dog hangouts, how do you monetize that? 706 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,760 Advertise. 707 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,720 - Yeah, that's how it is every time. 708 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Just put a bunch of chewy heads on there and call it good. 709 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,480 There is a chewy within 5.6 miles from you. 710 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Or chowhound, whatever they're called. 711 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,400 - Love bones. 712 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,080 Love bones. 713 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,080 But okay, but maybe there's a little bit of a market 714 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,120 for like dog breed matching or something. 715 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Like people wanna breed their dogs. 716 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,120 I don't know. 717 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,340 Like, is there a market for that? 718 00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:28,400 - Based on GPS location, like. 719 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,000 - I need my dog to get pregnant now. 720 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,700 sexy Dalmatians in your area. 721 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,760 I don't know. 722 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,760 I feel like that's hard. 723 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,200 I feel like that's not usually an urgent thing that they need done, but maybe. 724 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,340 I mean, it's maybe just hard to find other dogs. 725 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:46,340 You know, it's hard out here being a dog, looking for other dogs 726 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,140 to make babies, I guess. 727 00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:50,180 But I don't know. 728 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:52,980 I mean, those are some that's like a promoting backroom 729 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:54,100 breeding or something. 730 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:54,480 Just like. 731 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Thanks, Phil. 732 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:00,740 What is this guy thinking? 733 00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:06,820 Either too much or not enough, I'm not sure. 734 00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:08,860 Well, thank you for listening. 735 00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:11,060 We hope you enjoyed yourself this evening. 736 00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:13,780 If you would like to send your own ideas in, we would love to get them. 737 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:16,340 Please ideas, feedback on the show, comments, 738 00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:18,820 send them on to podcast@Spitball.show. 739 00:31:18,820 --> 00:31:20,780 That's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse. 740 00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:24,980 If you fire up Mastodon or some other client, type in podcast@Spitball.show. 741 00:31:24,980 --> 00:31:25,900 We are there. 742 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,540 You'll get updates about new episodes when they're posted and the like. 743 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,860 Our website is Spitball.show. 744 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:32,820 Please follow us. 745 00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:37,500 We're still at the Spitball show on Twitter and our subreddit is r/Spitballshow. 746 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:40,580 Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Bunkers Beat Club. 747 00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:44,740 And if you would please pull over if you're in your car or fire up 748 00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:48,180 that podcast app that you're listening to us on right now and press subscribe, 749 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:49,500 press add, press the plus button. 750 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:50,820 We'd love to hear your feedback. 751 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:52,860 And that's the best way for people to discover the show. 752 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:55,220 So hit us with a review if you've got it. 753 00:31:55,220 --> 00:32:05,620 five stars would be lovely. 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