1 00:00:04,639 --> 00:00:05,360 I'm Scott. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,200 I'm Russell. 3 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:07,080 And I'm Leo. 4 00:00:07,260 --> 00:00:07,940 This is Spitball. 5 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:21,760 Welcome to Spitball, where three groundbreaking geeks and a guest empty our heads of startup 6 00:00:21,860 --> 00:00:25,340 and tech product ideas that we have stuck up in there so you can all have them for free. 7 00:00:25,660 --> 00:00:26,980 Anything that we say is yours to keep. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,860 Scott, I believe you brought our guest this week. 9 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:30,040 Who'd 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,260 you bring? 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,620 - I did, guys. 12 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,420 I'm very excited to finally bring on the show, 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,780 the David Webster. 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,700 David, not only a long time friend, 15 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:40,580 but also professional percussionist. 16 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:45,020 He's the drummer behind the weirdo death doom metal madness 17 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:46,440 that is Slugchild. 18 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:48,480 You know, if the name Slugchild's familiar, 19 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:51,160 it's because the new hit single "Love Leech" I believe, 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,620 just hit the 21 00:00:51,620 --> 00:00:52,600 Billboard Top 100 on 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,580 Spotify this week. 23 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,320 We have been 24 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,700 trying 25 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:55,200 to book him 26 00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:56,360 ever since this show started. 27 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,100 We're very excited to have David Webster. 28 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,620 - Now you have a 29 00:00:59,620 --> 00:00:59,860 hard 30 00:00:59,860 --> 00:01:00,900 stop in 50 minutes 31 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,260 for 32 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:02,260 going to Rolling Stone, right? 33 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,660 - 15 34 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:04,120 actually, yeah, sorry. 35 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,120 (laughing) 36 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,840 I'm so busy, you know, with all of my-- 37 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,800 - Thank you for being here, David. 38 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:11,300 - Yeah, no worries. 39 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:12,100 - This is gonna be a good time. 40 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,560 - My Spotify millions has turned me 41 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 into a really selfish, rancid person, yeah. 42 00:01:19,299 --> 00:01:19,700 (laughing) 43 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:23,700 - We've all gotta have a hobby, and mine's being rancid. 44 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,100 Yeah, 45 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,160 my hobby is getting paid for playing music. 46 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:29,600 That's my main hobby. 47 00:01:31,539 --> 00:01:32,340 Making royalties. 48 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:35,200 Well, in addition to being an excellent musician, sir, 49 00:01:35,580 --> 00:01:37,240 I always tell my friends that I can always tell 50 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,140 when David's been at a party that I've hosted 51 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,320 because when I go to do my returns, 52 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,620 there's these weird ass 53 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:44,660 beer cans 54 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,320 that can't be accepted anywhere 55 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:48,260 because you are an enthusiast of 56 00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:49,000 adult 57 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,440 beverages. 58 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:51,100 So to get us warmed up today, 59 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,540 I wrote a little game for us 60 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:54,320 that I'm gonna call Algorithms. 61 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Great. 62 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,900 In this one, I'm just gonna list a word. 63 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,860 You're gonna tell me, is it a Midwestern beer 64 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,180 made by someone in one of our neighboring states here, 65 00:02:03,620 --> 00:02:04,700 or is it a programming language? 66 00:02:05,299 --> 00:02:05,780 (laughing) 67 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:06,880 I love this. 68 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,640 This is great. 69 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:10,259 And we gotta start always as we do with David, our guest. 70 00:02:10,539 --> 00:02:10,979 David. Okay. 71 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:13,420 Crystal, programming language or beer? 72 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,500 Or drug. 73 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,260 Or Pepsi. 74 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:18,420 Oh, I mean, it's certainly Pepsi. 75 00:02:18,620 --> 00:02:19,180 It's a Pepsi. 76 00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:20,640 I'm gonna say, 77 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:24,480 I'm going to say obscure programming language. 78 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,980 It's an obscure programming language. 79 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,040 A Ruby-inspired 80 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,060 language with a focus on speed and type 81 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:29,500 safety. 82 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:30,020 Very good. 83 00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:30,440 That tracks. 84 00:02:30,580 --> 00:02:31,060 That tracks. 85 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,860 Scott, Cascadian. 86 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:35,600 I'm going to go beer on that one. 87 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,680 I 88 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:35,860 just can't-- 89 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,460 It's a beer. 90 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,640 It's a style of beer. 91 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,760 David is already nodding. 92 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:39,520 David's going to-- 93 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,160 No, I don't know it. 94 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,280 I'm just agreeing with you. 95 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:43,140 Very good. 96 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:44,860 Found in various Midwestern breweries. 97 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:46,480 Russell, Cobra. 98 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:48,640 Oh, man. 99 00:02:48,860 --> 00:02:49,500 That's both. 100 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,580 Is that a trick question? 101 00:02:50,780 --> 00:02:51,280 That is both. 102 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:51,920 - Triple checked, 103 00:02:52,260 --> 00:02:53,540 maybe there is somewhere, 104 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,360 but in the Midwest is where I tried to limit it down to. 105 00:02:57,780 --> 00:03:00,900 - I'm gonna say then, oh man. 106 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,440 - Cobra. 107 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,000 - I'm gonna say coding language. 108 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:03,480 - It 109 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,440 is, very good. 110 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Object oriented for.NET. 111 00:03:06,580 --> 00:03:07,540 That's three for three, right? 112 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:08,640 Well done, okay, this should get 113 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:08,820 harder. 114 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:10,860 - Let's go beat the game. 115 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:11,860 (laughing) 116 00:03:11,860 --> 00:03:12,200 Ooh, let's go. 117 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:12,820 - Dastard. 118 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,560 (laughing) 119 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:14,480 - Getting cocky 120 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,100 in round one. 121 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,580 David, Bodhi, B-O-D-H-I. 122 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:20,860 I'm gonna say that's programming language. 123 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:23,120 - Columbus Brewing Company in Ohio. 124 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Condolences. 125 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:25,280 - Dermot! 126 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:26,860 (laughing) 127 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:28,940 - I'm out! - Storm off. 128 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:29,740 - Yeah, I'm outta here. 129 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:32,640 He's gotta write a song. 130 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,440 - Scott, 131 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,800 mosaic. 132 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:37,700 - Ooh, everything in me is screaming beer, 133 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:39,240 but I have to do the opposite of what I say, 134 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:40,680 so I'm gonna say programming language. 135 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,060 - It is very good. 136 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,600 - Nice. - Strategy, guys. 137 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,200 - Damn, Scott, you figured this out. 138 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,780 - 'Cause it would be mosaic, hopped, IPA. 139 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,160 - 37 episodes. 140 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,140 (laughing) 141 00:03:50,860 --> 00:03:51,740 - Russell, Matilda. 142 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,160 - Oh man, that's a beer. 143 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,960 That's gotta be a beer. 144 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,180 - Goose Island, Illinois, very 145 00:03:56,180 --> 00:03:56,460 good. 146 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:56,880 - Okay, 147 00:03:57,140 --> 00:03:57,540 that's right. 148 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,260 - Way to go guys. 149 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:00,020 - David, 150 00:04:00,460 --> 00:04:00,600 Dart. 151 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:01,900 - I'm gonna say beer. 152 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,300 - It's a programming language from Google. 153 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:04,640 - Fuck. 154 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,540 - It's a UI development one, yeah. 155 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,360 - Scott, Pike, P-I-K-E. 156 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,280 - Going beer. 157 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:11,660 - It's another programming language. 158 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:13,080 - Ah, okay, see? 159 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:14,260 - Is it a four letter word? 160 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,000 - Programming language. 161 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,079 Well, these are all Russell Vala, V-A-L-A. 162 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:20,320 V-A-L-A. 163 00:04:20,359 --> 00:04:21,420 This is the four letter round. 164 00:04:21,780 --> 00:04:22,100 Yeah. 165 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:25,360 That's a programming language. 166 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,040 It is, developed by Gnome. 167 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Yes, very good. 168 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:30,160 Last time through, David Enigma. 169 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:30,940 Beer. 170 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:32,800 Yeah, New Glarus in Wisconsin. 171 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,000 You've probably had all of these. 172 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:35,060 I don't know. 173 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:35,840 Scott 174 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,940 Groovy. 175 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,200 That's got to be a beer. 176 00:04:38,620 --> 00:04:38,720 It's a 177 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,400 programming language. 178 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Runs on JVM, yeah. 179 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,660 Very good. 180 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,460 What? 181 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Yeah, condolences. 182 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,360 And then Russell, furious. 183 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:46,620 Oh, 184 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:47,240 that's a beer. 185 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Yeah, surly brewing in Minnesota. 186 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,000 David-- oh, oh, come on. 187 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:52,400 Oh, I called David-- 188 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:53,080 It's good. 189 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:53,620 It's good. 190 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:56,840 So if you got it, does that mean that Russell, you got all four? 191 00:04:57,060 --> 00:04:57,300 Did you? 192 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:57,960 I think 193 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,160 so. 194 00:04:58,260 --> 00:04:58,620 I think he did. 195 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Did I get all four? 196 00:04:59,560 --> 00:04:59,980 Damn. 197 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,400 You might 198 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:00,620 have. 199 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,280 Although I never keep track during these. 200 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:03,540 Don't worry about it. 201 00:05:04,099 --> 00:05:04,740 Well done. 202 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,580 Russell, does that mean you go first 203 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:07,640 or you pick who goes first? 204 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:08,820 We've never really figured out what 205 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:09,880 the prize is. 206 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,460 Yeah, he gets to decide. 207 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,640 And Leo, I'm always impressed. 208 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,140 Not only do you come each week with an idea to pitch, 209 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:16,000 but you gotta come up with a game as well. 210 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:16,520 Yeah. 211 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,660 Well done, Randy. 212 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:18,000 The door's 213 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,560 always open if one of you guys 214 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,100 wants to. 215 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:20,700 (laughing) 216 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:21,020 One 217 00:05:21,020 --> 00:05:21,820 of you guys wants to 218 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:23,040 do something. 219 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Yeah, 220 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,220 come on, to collaborate, co-collaborate. 221 00:05:26,820 --> 00:05:27,180 (laughing) 222 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,900 I'll go first. 223 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,500 Do it. That's fine. 224 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,220 Hit us, go ahead Russell. 225 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:33,900 All right guys, so as you know, 226 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:37,520 I do my yearly patronage out to Florida 227 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,600 for a couple weeks. 228 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:39,680 Ah yes, welcome back. 229 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,240 Yes. 230 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,360 Patronage. 231 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,340 Is that what it is? 232 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:44,420 In your retirement, 233 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:44,760 yeah. 234 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,460 What's the word? 235 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:47,080 Your-- 236 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,820 Your snowbird. 237 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:48,740 Pilgrimage. 238 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:50,720 That's the word, pilgrimage. 239 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,440 That's what 240 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:51,600 I-- 241 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Yeah. 242 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:54,780 I yearly pilgrimage out to 243 00:05:54,780 --> 00:05:54,960 Florida. 244 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,360 To the holy land of Tampa, Florida, or wherever. 245 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,500 That's right, yes. 246 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,160 I'm 247 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,140 more of a Gulf of America guy. 248 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Insane, 249 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:04,700 right? 250 00:06:05,780 --> 00:06:05,880 Got 251 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,520 to see that for the first time. 252 00:06:08,180 --> 00:06:09,700 - I'm used to seeing the Mexico version. 253 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:15,280 And now that I got, when I was there, 254 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,960 I brought this up in the past, 255 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:20,100 but they have these awesome sailboats 256 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:23,020 called Hobie Cats, they're catamarans. 257 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:27,020 And these boats are basically two car boys 258 00:06:27,580 --> 00:06:29,100 and a trampoline between them 259 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:30,320 with a sail, 260 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:30,960 all right? 261 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,020 - There you go. 262 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:32,060 - And, 263 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:35,200 or like, you know, two inflatable tubes. 264 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,920 And I'm like, basically I want to disrupt 265 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,540 the pontoon industry through these Hobie Cat pontoon boats. 266 00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:45,900 They fold 267 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:49,020 up, they collapse on each other, right? 268 00:06:49,460 --> 00:06:49,780 So like 269 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:51,720 the whole thing is basically, yeah, 270 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:56,020 two tubes, two metal pipes, and a piece of fabric 271 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,300 that keeps everybody together. 272 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,000 You 273 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,540 throw a motor on that thing, and you're off, right? 274 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,880 The pontoon boats of today are like 30 grand, like new. 275 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,840 And it just blows my mind. 276 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:13,940 - Right, they have all that disgusting electricity 277 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,660 and like, you know. 278 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:17,240 - Cushions. 279 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:17,760 - And 280 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,060 sensors. 281 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:20,380 - Seats, yeah, a steering mechanism. 282 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:21,200 - Yeah, right. 283 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,280 - Hate that shit, it sucks. 284 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:25,140 - Sorry, you weren't 285 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:25,360 done. 286 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:26,700 - Ruins the boating vibe. 287 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,900 - You, okay, 288 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:29,840 outside of the 289 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,800 electricity, okay, 290 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:30,960 you 291 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,860 put that in a plastic 292 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:32,560 bag, all right? 293 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,180 Everybody's got those, all right? 294 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:35,620 (laughing) 295 00:07:39,180 --> 00:07:40,700 These sailboats are like, what, 296 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,600 I think they're five grand maybe? 297 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,180 - Sure. 298 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:46,120 - 10, 15, it depends on how you're looking at it. 299 00:07:46,580 --> 00:07:49,160 But I just don't see why you can't create 300 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 a collapsible, cheaper pontoon boat 301 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 using, you know, like the smart car of 302 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,980 pontoon boats, 303 00:07:56,110 --> 00:07:56,560 but not 304 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,260 as lame. 305 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,140 So, 306 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 and then you have, right, a rudder, you know, 307 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440 - Just the millennial version of a pontoon boat, 308 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:06,220 because listen, 309 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,560 only the boomers can afford the real ones. 310 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:09,560 - That's factual. 311 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:11,980 - I'm 312 00:08:11,980 --> 00:08:14,460 out here like dreaming and drooling 313 00:08:14,490 --> 00:08:17,800 over a collapsible boat and not a dinghy. 314 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:19,100 Those things are just 315 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:19,400 nobody deserves. 316 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,840 - A collapsible party boat. 317 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,840 - Yes. 318 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:22,860 - Hell yeah. 319 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,080 - And then it can collapse when you're having a party on it. 320 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:27,160 That's like. 321 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,060 - No, you have some industrial 322 00:08:30,060 --> 00:08:30,820 metal 323 00:08:30,820 --> 00:08:31,700 pontoons. 324 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,500 You know what I mean? 325 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:33,080 Can you 326 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:33,400 elaborate 327 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:33,620 what 328 00:08:33,620 --> 00:08:34,560 you mean by collapse? 329 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,620 I'm having trouble picturing this. 330 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:37,599 I want to fit this in the back of my car. 331 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:38,800 Like the two just come together. 332 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:39,260 OK. 333 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:39,700 Yes. 334 00:08:39,940 --> 00:08:40,500 So you want 335 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:42,440 it to somehow lock into place, 336 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,640 and then unlock, and then fold up or something? 337 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,980 I'm saving on shipping costs, right? 338 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,240 And so-- hey, get it? 339 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:49,660 Boat, 340 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,020 shipping. 341 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:50,460 Yeah, Ikea boat, 342 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:50,960 shipping. 343 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:51,520 Yeah, a 344 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,380 little bit of an Ikea boat assembly kind of thing. 345 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,440 But it also adds to the portability. 346 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,760 You can throw it on the roof of your car. 347 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Car. 348 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,780 or you know what I mean? 349 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:01,960 Like 350 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,420 something like 351 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:05,040 two, you can put two kayaks on a car. 352 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:07,600 Why can't you make a pontoon boat 353 00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:09,340 that works kind of like that? 354 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:10,060 - Boom. - Interesting. 355 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:10,660 - Okay. 356 00:09:11,020 --> 00:09:13,100 - Russell, I think you could seriously do this 357 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:14,120 with some tent poles. 358 00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:16,040 Okay, like something stronger than tent poles, 359 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,820 but that idea that you build them on itself 360 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:19,460 and like two inflatable kayaks. 361 00:09:19,899 --> 00:09:21,800 Fully, like that 362 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,740 whole thing could fit 363 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,780 into a duffel bag at that point. 364 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,220 And then you just need an air compressor, 365 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,900 a car battery and a trolling motor. 366 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:30,060 - Yes, thank you Scott. 367 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,260 - I'd buy water 368 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:31,580 for $300, man. 369 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,060 - Yes, and it's like a bed. 370 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:36,580 And dude, what if you turn that into a camping tent? 371 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,060 Somebody said this. 372 00:09:38,540 --> 00:09:40,320 The tent pole is like, why 373 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,520 not 374 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,300 sleep on the water? 375 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:43,780 - That's fun. 376 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,800 - Because you can't sleep in a kayak, really, I don't 377 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,220 think. 378 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:48,540 - But it's like a hammock 379 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:49,940 in between the two kayaks. 380 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:50,660 That's nice. 381 00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:51,920 - Throw a little anchor on the end. 382 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:52,460 That sounds 383 00:09:52,460 --> 00:09:52,980 amazing. 384 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:53,600 - It does 385 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,060 sound amazing. 386 00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:55,020 - Poles are rigid. 387 00:09:55,090 --> 00:09:56,440 They keep the two sides apart. 388 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Oh, yeah, this could 389 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,420 work. 390 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,740 - You know what's funny, too? 391 00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:00,700 I think you can just park your 392 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:02,120 boat in the middle of the lake 393 00:10:02,180 --> 00:10:03,920 and no fees, right? 394 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,360 You can moor it out there. 395 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:07,880 You'd have to add an anchor to your whole contraption, 396 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:08,600 but we could do it. 397 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:09,140 Yeah. 398 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:10,740 I mean, that's free living. 399 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Like, no property taxes. 400 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,140 Buy a PO box, and you're gone. 401 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:17,040 You just buy 402 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,140 an actual tent and put it on top in the water. 403 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:19,360 Right. 404 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,060 Right. 405 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,460 Do people-- like, houseboats, I guess they don't moor it, 406 00:10:23,930 --> 00:10:24,020 right? 407 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:25,060 They don't do what I-- 408 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,200 do crazy shit like 409 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,300 that. 410 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,080 You could. 411 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:27,580 Yeah. 412 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:28,180 You just 413 00:10:28,180 --> 00:10:29,840 got to have supplies, right? 414 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:32,020 Houseboats have that electricity, though. 415 00:10:32,100 --> 00:10:32,340 They got to 416 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:32,820 plug in. 417 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:33,520 Yeah, they have that 418 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,300 filthy refrigeration 419 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:36,860 technology. 420 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:37,520 It sucks. 421 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,540 Have they solved for that yet, electricity? 422 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,780 They're working on it. 423 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Batteries, I guess. 424 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,860 Solar cells. 425 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:45,380 Yeah. 426 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:52,200 I mean, if you had an OK solar array that wasn't like 10,000 427 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:53,120 pounds, you know? 428 00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:54,340 There's some cheap thin 429 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:54,940 ones out there 430 00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:55,320 you can get on 431 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,260 AliExpress now. 432 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:57,900 It's gotten a lot better. 433 00:10:58,340 --> 00:11:00,080 This might be my privilege talking, 434 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,700 but I can think of at least two people in my life 435 00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:04,860 who've bought a kayak or a canoe 436 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,440 and don't really use it anymore. 437 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,020 It sits in a garage or something. 438 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:08,520 So 439 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,620 yeah, okay, you're one of them, David. 440 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,460 Okay. Inflatable, but yes. 441 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:11,920 Sure. 442 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:13,900 What about if your business, Russell, 443 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,900 sold the conversion kit, 444 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,860 where you have the, like, 445 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:20,040 you attach the rods and stuff 446 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,140 onto what you already have gathering dust 447 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:23,820 up in that attic in a garage 448 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:25,680 that you haven't gotten out in two or three seasons. 449 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,600 do something new with that thing 450 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:28,920 that you don't know what to do with. 451 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:29,520 - I like that. 452 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,040 - I want 453 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,460 on Craig's list for 50 bucks 454 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:34,340 and lash it to your other one that you've got. 455 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:36,080 Reduce, reuse, recycle. 456 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:37,160 - I like that. 457 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,680 - This is why we spit ballio, 458 00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:39,340 yes. 459 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,900 - Then you're on the hook for like, 460 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,780 I don't know, when it goes catastrophically wrong 461 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,260 when they have two different kayaks 462 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,840 or they're puncturing holes in their 463 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,400 inflatable 464 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:49,780 thing 465 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,100 then trying to go out on the water. 466 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,799 - No, no, you have the obviously legally binding 467 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,480 user agreement that they don't read when they sign it. 468 00:11:57,700 --> 00:11:57,940 There's a 469 00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:58,520 sticker on 470 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,400 it that says, do not 471 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,840 use. 472 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,900 Do not use ever. 473 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:02,300 Don't sue us. 474 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:04,740 Also, you can't, 475 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,240 OK? 476 00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:09,580 But like, yeah, hypothetically, you get-- 477 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,420 man, actually, if it's light enough-- 478 00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:12,080 I mean, a conversion 479 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,140 kit would be-- 480 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:15,220 yeah, if you're just selling a conversion kit, 481 00:12:15,260 --> 00:12:16,920 I don't think you're really responsible, 482 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,980 because it's someone-- 483 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:22,060 they're DIYing it, you know what I mean? 484 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:22,940 You just sell the kit. 485 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,200 they're responsible for their own shoddy workmanship, right? 486 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,220 A master never blames his 487 00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:28,420 tools. 488 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,480 Basically a bag 489 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,820 of Menards supplies, 490 00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:31,340 right? 491 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:32,300 Some Lowe's 492 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:32,960 screws 493 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,500 and a rod. 494 00:12:35,180 --> 00:12:37,080 Have you bought furniture any time 495 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:38,780 in like the last six years? 496 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:39,760 Yeah, that's true. 497 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,080 That's all furniture is. 498 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:45,080 Yeah, you are the Ikea of hammock on the water. 499 00:12:45,540 --> 00:12:45,800 Yes. 500 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,700 Is there a way to do collapsible boats? 501 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Well, 502 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,720 that's a great, okay, David, 503 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,080 you have an inflatable kayak. 504 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,460 How 505 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:53,080 small could 506 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,740 you get that guy? 507 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:59,520 It becomes like, let's see, probably about a foot around 508 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,180 and like 2 and 1/2 feet long. 509 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,880 OK. 510 00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:05,300 2 and 1/2 feet long? 511 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,220 Queen size air mattress. 512 00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:07,000 That's pretty short. 513 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,020 Like smashed 514 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:08,980 into the bag. 515 00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:11,360 Yeah, because I mean, there's still a fair amount of material. 516 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:15,880 Guys, have you seen those gigantic unicorn or inflatables 517 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,360 that fit six or eight people? 518 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:18,220 Yeah, my mom 519 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:19,180 has a paddle board 520 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:19,520 that you 521 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,100 You can have like 522 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,140 four people comfortably seated on 523 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:22,860 or standing 524 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:23,820 on, walking around. 525 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,120 It's like a tank. 526 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:25,640 It's awesome. 527 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,480 It's cool. 528 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:30,300 So maybe we just need like an attachment that-- 529 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,940 Is this for turning it into 530 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:32,760 a sailboat 531 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,280 mechanism? 532 00:13:33,460 --> 00:13:35,060 What is the attachment doing for us here? 533 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:36,800 OK. 534 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,440 I'm spinning this hard now. 535 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,360 All right. 536 00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:41,560 What is it? 537 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:42,040 A jet ski. 538 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,000 So imagine a jet ski, but remote controlled, without-- 539 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,640 like it just sits in front of you and pulls 540 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,300 your boat. 541 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,100 I've seen that for water skiing. 542 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,200 There's like a little individual jet ski like thing 543 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,680 that's autonomous that you can go water skiing behind. 544 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:56,660 And the handle that you're holding onto 545 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,880 has controls on it. 546 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,040 See, it's been solved. 547 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:00,100 We don't need to worry about 548 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:00,860 electricity anymore. 549 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:02,460 We just create two 550 00:14:02,460 --> 00:14:03,320 kayaks and an adapter. 551 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:03,340 No. 552 00:14:04,699 --> 00:14:05,100 [LAUGHTER] 553 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,160 I don't 554 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:06,520 know what they're running. 555 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:06,780 We need 556 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:07,620 gas now, right? 557 00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:09,680 Can you make it roll coal? 558 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,140 Slap a diesel engine 559 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:13,660 on it. 560 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,480 You ready to go out for a calm afternoon summering on the lake? 561 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,580 (imitates boat engine revving) 562 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,660 - Mount a giant steel tailpipe 563 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,080 on the back 564 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,680 of your rubber 565 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,240 inflatable. 566 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:29,460 (laughing) 567 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,620 - Do you think those could 568 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:32,160 pull though? 569 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,080 - Drive aggressively 570 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,100 around sailboats 571 00:14:34,180 --> 00:14:34,920 cause you're mad at a 572 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,260 sailboat. 573 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:35,760 - You gotta 574 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,040 get eight of them Russel, 575 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:37,620 and on 576 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:39,680 Dasher and Dancer and just be all holding up 577 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,480 in front for you. 578 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,200 - And then you die. 579 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:44,320 Then you disintegrate when you hit the water. 580 00:14:44,740 --> 00:14:46,700 Yeah, why do all boats push? 581 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,760 There's got to be 582 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,340 some reason, 583 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:49,560 some scientific reason. 584 00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:51,580 Like, why are they always in the back of the boat pushing? 585 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:53,000 Why can't we just have one that's pulling? 586 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,180 Frickin' sinks in the front, doesn't it? 587 00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:58,320 I mean, I think that exists, but it's like an oar. 588 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Front wheel drive. 589 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,540 Front wheel drive, right. 590 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:02,680 Why can't we do front wheel drive? 591 00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:03,260 Why is everything 592 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:03,540 back wheel drive? 593 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:04,700 Because it's easier 594 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:05,420 to have-- 595 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:06,700 You ever tried to push a shopping 596 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:07,240 cart backwards? 597 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:07,900 Yeah. 598 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,600 It's very difficult. 599 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Yeah, you want to-- oh, yeah, because it's getting 600 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,560 steered from the back, huh? 601 00:15:12,340 --> 00:15:16,940 What is the problem that you're trying to solve by moving the location of the engine? 602 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:18,780 A motor that pulls, 603 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:19,720 okay? 604 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:25,780 At the end of the day, I just want everybody to have a boat that's cost 605 00:15:25,780 --> 00:15:26,300 -effective, 606 00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:26,880 get 607 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,120 more millennials on the water, right? 608 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,040 More cheap skates like myself and not use dinghies. 609 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,020 Those things are 610 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:34,540 ugly 611 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:36,400 and I can't believe they can 612 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,100 be in the 613 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:40,040 water, let alone make. 614 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:42,160 And I think, yeah, I love this 615 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,560 recycle version. 616 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:44,940 I think that's the way to go. 617 00:15:44,940 --> 00:15:49,800 A roof over every head, a chicken in every pot, a jet ski pulled inflatable party 618 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,720 pontoon 619 00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:52,040 in every garage. 620 00:15:57,990 --> 00:16:01,200 All right, David, let's hear what you got for us this week. 621 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:09,640 So my idea is basically a neighborhood-centric, hyper-local potluck app. 622 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:15,840 So like, the biggest problem is vetting, right? 623 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,200 It's user vetting, because obviously, 624 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,280 if you're going to welcome potentially a stranger 625 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,760 into your house, like, problem. 626 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,640 But I feel like there are a number of ways 627 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,680 you could probably do it in a fairly simple way 628 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,100 to confirm that a person actually lives where 629 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:35,260 they say they live, like you're actually there. 630 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:39,580 The search radius would be like something really short, right? 631 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:42,040 'cause ideally it's like something you can even walk to 632 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:43,440 rather than have to drive. 633 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:44,980 'Cause then it's like, you know, 634 00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:46,960 if you can just like walk to a neighbor's house 635 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,340 and like they say, I am making fucking chili, 636 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 bring toppings or bring, you know, 637 00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:55,840 something to go with chili, 638 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:56,320 you know? 639 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760 But like, I was just kinda, 640 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:02,920 I'm getting involved with some sort of like 641 00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:05,720 direct community action out here in Grand Rapids 642 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,800 with just sort of like providing hospitality 643 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,459 trying to feed people who are maybe experiencing instability. 644 00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:17,439 And I don't know, I have a lot of neighbors and like every time I've gotten a chance to 645 00:17:17,459 --> 00:17:20,680 like talk with them for the most part, they're cool. 646 00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:21,819 They're like chill people. 647 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,300 Sometimes you know, you have crazy people, but around me, it's it's mostly cool. 648 00:17:26,699 --> 00:17:33,760 And I don't know, I feel like we are incredibly isolated usually, you know, and like, I feel 649 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:41,900 like just sort of nothing makes you more like, okay, I feel I feel at peace. I feel like 650 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:47,100 connected to my city and my community more than like, you know, just cooking food for 651 00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:50,820 people and sharing food, you know, I don't know, at least for me. That's like, I love 652 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:58,300 doing that stuff. So I was just sort of thinking I pot dot luck was one of the initial names 653 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,020 and I don't know if that carries water, 654 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:01,200 but like... 655 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,860 It's either a casino, a 656 00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:05,480 leprechaun, or potluck. 657 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,400 I was kind of thinking about like, with user vetting, I think like, 658 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:16,280 it's probably a higher barrier of entry to host than to attend, right? 659 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Because like, you want to make sure if someone is saying, 660 00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:25,340 "I'm going to host a potluck," they're not like, doing any weird shit, you know? 661 00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:31,900 I would hope that like if I feel like going the Craigslist route of like it's not ad supported 662 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,480 It's not try it's really not even trying to make money 663 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,520 It's just kind of trying to like exist 664 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:44,040 You know as a resource like that helps because then you don't really worry about like growth or any bullshit like 665 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,260 that 666 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:44,780 It's more just 667 00:18:44,780 --> 00:18:45,740 like a useful tool 668 00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:52,820 Bear bear probably pretty bare-bones interface and then I like something along the lines of like you say, okay 669 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:58,420 I'm making food and I have room for two extra plates at the table basically. 670 00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:03,960 And so only two people get to sign up and once it's full, it's full and like you can't 671 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600 even see it to avoid extra people showing up. 672 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:15,020 And like I think you'd probably also have to go by like basement show rules where the 673 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 your address is not posted anywhere 674 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,600 and you basically 675 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,300 get notified of the people who are 676 00:19:20,020 --> 00:19:23,020 going to attend and you tell them your address. 677 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Because otherwise, you just don't want cops showing up. 678 00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:29,880 It's got to be 679 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,540 cool. 680 00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:32,200 It's a brownie party, boys. 681 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:32,540 It's got to 682 00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:33,900 be on the DL. 683 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:34,200 Post 684 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,200 free food here. 685 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:37,640 I don't know. 686 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,820 I feel like I don't want to do this shit on Facebook. 687 00:19:39,910 --> 00:19:41,220 I don't want to do this shit on Instagram. 688 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:46,380 I don't want to do this shit on anything like that, because all that stuff is too public. 689 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:49,160 I feel like it 690 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,720 would be impossible 691 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480 to totally avoid bad actors, probably. 692 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:55,220 - Chat roulette or Omegle for food. 693 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,620 - Chat roulette with my neighbors, which 694 00:19:58,620 --> 00:19:59,000 is-- 695 00:19:59,020 --> 00:19:59,120 - I 696 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,100 don't know, yeah, I feel like it'd be fun. 697 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:01,400 - That's 698 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,900 kinda cool. - I feel like it 699 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,440 would be fun. 700 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,760 But it's not bulletproof, for 701 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:05,920 sure. 702 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:07,580 - With an Uber-like rating system 703 00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:09,520 so you can avoid the one-star weirdo 704 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,120 who made arsenic pie or whatever. 705 00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:15,480 - Yeah, I think it's one of those things 706 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,080 where it's like you'd either have to, 707 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240 it's a one strike and you're out type thing, 708 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:20,860 you know? 709 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,100 Like I feel like there would have to be like actual, 710 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:26,680 like you just don't get to do this anymore, 711 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,940 you know, type things. 712 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:29,740 But then you 713 00:20:29,740 --> 00:20:30,800 can't really like run 714 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,340 background 715 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:31,640 checks 716 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,000 on every person who uses it. 717 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,180 But 718 00:20:33,180 --> 00:20:33,400 like, 719 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,720 I feel like some sort of like 720 00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:36,720 local identity verification. 721 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,840 - I don't want any of the safety features, man. 722 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:39,880 I just wanna go in 723 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,560 and I just wanna see what the hell happens. 724 00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:42,140 - I mean-- 725 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:43,340 - Let's play with that roulette. 726 00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:44,520 That's why it's called roulette. 727 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:45,400 - So yeah, 728 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,980 like there's the safety version, right? 729 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320 I'm almost thinking that would be fun, Scott. 730 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Seriously, 731 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:50,880 though. 732 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:51,560 Pop that career. 733 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:52,200 College kids. 734 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:52,400 The 735 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,780 only reason I see my neighbors-- 736 00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:54,940 this is the street I live on. 737 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,400 The only reason I see my neighbors 738 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,680 is when all the cops come outside one 739 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:58,820 house. 740 00:20:58,820 --> 00:20:58,940 Right. 741 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:00,320 And then all the neighbors come out, 742 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,260 and they all just kind of gawk, and we 743 00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:02,420 call that neighborhood get-togethers. 744 00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:02,960 You see your 745 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,920 neighbors, you give them the nod, 746 00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:05,280 they give you the nod, and they're like, OK, 747 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,880 what's going 748 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,000 on? 749 00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:06,220 Right. 750 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,420 It would be very interesting to do a roulette game of dinner 751 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:10,220 parties with them. 752 00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:10,980 I'd be into 753 00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:11,220 it. 754 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:13,720 I mean, it might be a disaster, you know? 755 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,660 Or it might be like you find common ground, 756 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,080 and you share a nice meal, 757 00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:20,880 and at least then you feel more welcome 758 00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:23,080 in the place where you live, you know? 759 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,520 - I think that's it. 760 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:27,560 I would love a round robin kind of idea, 761 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,140 right? 762 00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:31,620 So let's say you get 10 neighbors in the community 763 00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:34,340 to commit to, hey, every week 764 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:35,520 we're gonna round 765 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,100 robin. 766 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:39,200 Potluck, we come to your house, you come to my 767 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,680 house. 768 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,780 We get to know each other, right? 769 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,160 It's kind of like the post-block party 770 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,780 hangover 771 00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:47,040 to meet 772 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,860 your neighbors, right? 773 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,560 And if you could have like-- 774 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,240 yeah, it's just that would be really, I think, cool, casual. 775 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,660 You don't have to worry about too many safety features. 776 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,580 It's not open 777 00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:58,420 to the 778 00:21:58,420 --> 00:21:59,120 public as 779 00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,560 much. 780 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:03,980 It's more like, hey, this block, 22nd Street on Next Door 781 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,600 wants to do a round robin. 782 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,720 You want to jump 783 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,000 in? 784 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:08,160 Yeah, I like that. 785 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,900 Yeah, you can vet it, right? 786 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,760 So maybe 787 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,240 in a way-- 788 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,700 And Next Door already has the vetting 789 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,940 of where you have to verify your address and stuff. 790 00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:17,160 this almost seems like a feature of that platform 791 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:17,980 or something, yeah. 792 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:19,860 - Yeah, I could totally see it being 793 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:20,480 as like 794 00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:22,120 sort of a spin off of that. 795 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,600 And like again, you know, it's like, 796 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:28,420 I think there's a part of me that's like very weird 797 00:22:28,540 --> 00:22:30,520 about like data collection and stuff like that, 798 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,060 you know what I mean? 799 00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:32,900 'Cause I mean, 800 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,600 but it's 801 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,060 also a bit of like, 802 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,240 well, it's all, that ship's sailed, you know? 803 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:38,940 It's 804 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:39,920 already like, 805 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:40,840 I don't know. 806 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,540 - They already know. 807 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,220 - Yeah. - Right. 808 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,760 - And I think the coordination of like 10 different families 809 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:50,400 and trying to round robin between 10 different dinners 810 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,540 across 10 different weeks, 811 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,100 managing vacations 812 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:53,860 and time off, 813 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,300 this app would solve all of that headache 814 00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:59,300 and now it would just be, 815 00:22:59,750 --> 00:23:01,920 all right, we're meeting the neighbor across the street 816 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:03,580 that we've, I mean like in a way, 817 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:06,180 I've lived in this house for four, five, nine 818 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:06,480 years? 819 00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:07,140 Shoot. 820 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:11,300 And I barely know a lot of my neighbors. 821 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,380 I know of them, but I, you know. 822 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:14,740 - Yeah. 823 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,660 - Not gonna knock on their door for a cup of sugar. 824 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:16,980 - Right. 825 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:17,300 - Right? 826 00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:19,520 - The people-- - That's too sketch. 827 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,500 - Like the people behind us, 828 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,220 they threw some dope ass parties. 829 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,160 They were very cool. 830 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:26,680 They were super duper welcoming, 831 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,520 like aggressively welcoming, you know? 832 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:30,740 And the people who moved, they moved out, 833 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:32,740 and the people who moved in were perfectly nice, 834 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,740 but you know, had four children, no time, you know? 835 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,220 And they're moving, and it's like, 836 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,440 well, maybe the next neighbors will be cool, 837 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Or maybe I just need to be the cool neighbor. 838 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:43,840 That might 839 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,420 be what 840 00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:45,160 I need to do. 841 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:46,220 - It's gotta start somewhere. 842 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,680 - Right. 843 00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:48,360 - What a cool way to introduce somebody 844 00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:49,140 to the neighborhood too. 845 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:50,880 Like, hey, join the Ron Robbin app. 846 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:51,200 We have 847 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,940 10 neighbors that would love to 848 00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:54,120 just get to know you, 849 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,480 have you over for dinner 850 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,280 while you 851 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,420 do your move-ins 852 00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:58,440 and whatever, right? 853 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,020 - Absolutely. 854 00:23:59,260 --> 00:24:01,740 - Way better than a drop off of cookies or jello, right? 855 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:01,940 Hey, 856 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:02,360 nice, 857 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,340 welcome you to the neighborhood, 858 00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:03,800 bye. 859 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,580 Like, we'll see you later. 860 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:06,400 - Right. 861 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:07,240 I mean, 862 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:09,680 it's funny 'cause it's like, 863 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,660 In some ways, I think the internet has usurped that 864 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:16,280 in a really huge way. 865 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:19,480 And it's nice to be able to pick your friends, 866 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:24,580 because I'm sure you end up with some awkward conversations 867 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,160 with your people. 868 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,620 But then it's also like, I don't know, 869 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:29,160 it would be kind of nice to know the people around you 870 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,820 well enough where it's like, oh shit, I need a tool. 871 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,900 I can just go ask my neighbor if they have a tool and borrow it 872 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,420 and-- 873 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,440 rather than having to pay in Home Depot or something 874 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:38,780 to get, 875 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:42,460 like, to rent a tool if your neighbor literally has it, 876 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:42,840 you know? 877 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,980 Episode 21. 878 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,940 So true. 879 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,700 I think, like, yeah, you're going 880 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,060 to vibe with certain neighbors 881 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,020 around Robin 882 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:51,940 better than you would, you know, eight of the 10. 883 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:54,200 I think it could be fun. 884 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,800 But yeah, the Pot Dot Luck, or-- 885 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,560 Pot Dot Luck. 886 00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:00,300 I don't know. 887 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,420 I feel like there would be other pun names that 888 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,020 would work better. 889 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,140 Dot Luck. 890 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:06,540 I don't know. 891 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,120 I'm hosting a Dot Luck next week. 892 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000 - Yeah, oh, just dot look I think is good, yeah. 893 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,280 - Man, you could do this for, 894 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:14,900 you know, I organized a block party a long time ago 895 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,440 and 896 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,740 it was 897 00:25:15,740 --> 00:25:16,100 hard. 898 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,100 It's just like, well, it could be, 899 00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:20,420 it's just that you don't know 900 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,040 and like there's weather delays 901 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,840 and you just wish you could communicate with everybody 902 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,500 about the events or 903 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:26,760 whatever. 904 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:30,700 - I mean, Facebook neighborhood 905 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:31,160 groups 906 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:33,660 are pretty good for that. 907 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,060 You know, we have an okay one, but I don't know. 908 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:43,560 It's also hard because it's like, you kind of just have to be welcoming and make a point 909 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:46,140 of it, even if it's kind of weird or awkward, you know? 910 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,500 It just kind of has 911 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:48,440 to... 912 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,580 Yeah. 913 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:49,540 I think this 914 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:53,400 summer I would like to just kind of throw some backyard parties. 915 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Just kind of just a post, "Hey, we're chilling. 916 00:25:57,620 --> 00:25:57,780 Come 917 00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:58,340 grill." 918 00:25:58,340 --> 00:25:58,800 Because 919 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,520 I 920 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,220 like doing that. 921 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,400 Scott. 922 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Scott, 923 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:09,260 what do you have for us? 924 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,380 - Thank you, David. 925 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:12,860 Okay, I got something a little different this week. 926 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,560 I do not actually have an idea. 927 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,000 However, I have a market. 928 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080 I have hundreds of thousands of contact names 929 00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:23,920 in that market, which as Russell, you and I know, 930 00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:25,520 is probably one of the most important parts 931 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,060 of trying to get a product out in the world. 932 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,120 It's not even a niche market, it's big. 933 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,180 And I have no idea what to sell, either product or service. 934 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,820 and I want to Spitball what we should do with that. 935 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,620 So I was literally, I saw a movie last night. 936 00:26:40,670 --> 00:26:42,660 I saw Mickey 17, it's good. 937 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,440 But the credits came up and they just kept going 938 00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:46,280 and going and going. 939 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,400 And I realized every one of these is a name of someone 940 00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:52,420 in the movie industry, not even just the actors, 941 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:56,160 but the producers, all the people on the light sets 942 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,980 and costume and everything. 943 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,760 All these people are in the niche market 944 00:27:00,140 --> 00:27:01,140 of the movie industry. 945 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,580 You could easily find them on LinkedIn or IMDB or some form. 946 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:08,980 There's thousands upon thousands of movies out there that you could go and 947 00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:12,960 capture all these names and put them on a list and just mass spam them 948 00:27:13,060 --> 00:27:14,880 with some product or service. 949 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:18,540 What do you sell a bunch of people that have been in movies in the background? 950 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,020 Oh, cool. 951 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:20,420 First thing 952 00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:24,140 that came to mind was just like some kind of trophy that 953 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,860 memorializes their role in that film. 954 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:30,220 So you take all the people from Mickey 17, you'd be like, "I'm going to give 955 00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:36,280 you this special collectible coin or like a lasered out on acrylic frame that 956 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:40,060 shows their credit page with their name on it highlighted or something and then 957 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,980 you just you know hundreds of letters or emails or whatever way and just make 958 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,420 them to order as they come in that's that is all I've got so far I've been 959 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,080 thinking about this about seven minutes what 960 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,240 if you either scraped IMDB or tore 961 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:56,500 optical character recognition and AI loose on those 962 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:57,260 credits itself 963 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:57,500 and 964 00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:01,840 assembled the database and sold that as the contact sharing directory to the 965 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:05,800 other people who might want to know, network in Hollywood. Oh, you want to 966 00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:10,080 know who some of the best sound designers are 967 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,660 on set? 968 00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:12,420 This guy's been in 37 movies. 969 00:28:13,010 --> 00:28:14,520 Oh, that is clever. 970 00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:14,960 I 971 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,560 think that IMDB kind of does that, but do they do that with like second grips and 972 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,500 stuff like that? Like background whatevers? I bet that there's value in 973 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,740 and having a comprehensive list of everyone 974 00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:27,520 who's been in there. 975 00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:29,700 And there are special rules in those credits, Scott, 976 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,600 for what they mean. 977 00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:33,040 Like if you have people who wrote the movie 978 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,360 and it's A-N-D, two people, 979 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:37,300 that's different than ampersand 980 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:37,760 people, 981 00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:38,500 whether they 982 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:39,660 collaborated on it together 983 00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:40,860 or one of them wrote it and the 984 00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:41,720 other one rewrote it. 985 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:44,440 There's like a structure to credits and what they mean. 986 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,420 It's almost its own little like database 987 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,580 that you could scrape. 988 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,700 You could get trends on what songs have been most popular 989 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,400 across the decades. 990 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,400 You could get all kinds of stuff. 991 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,480 The 992 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080 thing, this is like very easy to do. 993 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,780 It would not be hard to create a tool that could do that 994 00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:00,620 scraping for it. 995 00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:01,860 You just have to pirate every movie. 996 00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:06,960 Yeah, and like you said, this, like every Sundance Film Festival producer would 997 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,380 be like, 998 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,020 oh my gosh, we can get expert, like D-list talent, right? 999 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:13,260 That's seen the real good 1000 00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:13,840 stuff. 1001 00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:18,520 And you hire them to do the Sundance film that's going to make it to their, you know, 1002 00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:23,060 instead of the fourth grip, they're the first grip now because they did a Sundance, whatever 1003 00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:29,240 one night interesting I love that idea though selling the plaque I am always 1004 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,680 curious 1005 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,480 like in 1006 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,880 the back of the film they want recognition to write totally 1007 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,400 and then you Facebook target add them were you the assistant dolly on 1008 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,380 super-targeted assistant 1009 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:49,000 dolly who was born on the 4th of July and I love too 1010 00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:54,220 hard and yes my director bought me this plaque sell him a t-shirt with exactly 1011 00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:55,080 that I love it 1012 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,900 that'd be funny you just have the whole credits and then their 1013 00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:00,680 name highlighted 1014 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:07,140 oh I wonder if there's something to that no hold on what if 1015 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,220 there you sold them 1016 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,420 a movie what's 1017 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:10,860 a physical representation of the whole 1018 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:16,039 credits a flipbook what if you sold them a flipbook and when you flip through it 1019 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:18,040 all it is is just the credits frame by frame, 1020 00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:19,200 but then their name is circled. 1021 00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:20,180 You add in the circle. 1022 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,020 And you can be like, hey, 1023 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:22,560 here's 1024 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,660 a memento of the thing 1025 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,020 that you did. 1026 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,660 A scroll. 1027 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,220 A scroll that like-- a 1028 00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:26,600 long 1029 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,180 scroll. 1030 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:28,860 Yeah, Star Wars style. 1031 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:30,120 And you can do it on physical paper. 1032 00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:31,400 A lot of credits are artsy. 1033 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Oh, 1034 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:31,780 yeah. 1035 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,140 Yeah. 1036 00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:33,200 That's meant to be fun. 1037 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,500 And then you can see like, oh, yeah, I was the-- 1038 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:36,640 I remember that. 1039 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,640 --microphone holder for the whatever. 1040 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:39,120 Yeah. 1041 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,300 That 1042 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:41,140 would be really scalable too, right? 1043 00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:43,660 Because you just get like-- you print the same credits 1044 00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:44,520 over and over again. 1045 00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:46,240 And you could just, for every order, 1046 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:48,580 you just manually put a sticker over the name. 1047 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,240 Right. 1048 00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:51,860 And now you're just like-- 1049 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:51,960 Got 1050 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480 to hope a lot of orders are coming in, though. 1051 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,180 Yeah, and 1052 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,880 then if you could frame the scroll in a way 1053 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,180 where it's preset to their thing, but at any point in time 1054 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:01,520 they can press a button, right? 1055 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520 And it can scroll through all the credits, 1056 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,400 or 1057 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,720 literally the old Roman 1058 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,700 scrolls. 1059 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:09,420 That 1060 00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:10,160 would be interesting. 1061 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,900 For a couple past projects that we did, 1062 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:20,340 These were like very in-depth, very awful engineering projects that took months or years. 1063 00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:29,940 And at the end of them, we would order like a little hexagonal PCB with like the project etched in the front and like the date or something on the back. 1064 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,840 And we'd have them as like tokens, like, "Hey, oh, you survived that project? That's awesome." 1065 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,420 And keep them as collectibles on your desk. 1066 00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:36,280 Just do that. 1067 00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:41,740 Have the movie, make a bunch of these tokens, have the movie on one side, print them one for every person in the credits. 1068 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,420 and then 1069 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:43,960 serialize or whatever, 1070 00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,400 put their name on the back if they order these. 1071 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,100 And then be, you gotta collect all the movies 1072 00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:48,880 you've been in, you know? 1073 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,260 Or you can 1074 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:49,860 show 'em off to your friends. 1075 00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:51,480 - That's not a bad idea. - Something up on your wall. 1076 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960 - What about like one of those, 1077 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,100 one of those like picture frame, 1078 00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:58,040 like digital picture frame things? 1079 00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:01,600 Where, I don't know exactly how you do this, 1080 00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,440 but like you take like a little snippet screenshot 1081 00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:08,880 of every credit, like from the credits of every movie 1082 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,180 they've been in where their name 1083 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:10,480 appears. 1084 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:10,900 - There it is, 1085 00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:11,060 yep. 1086 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,420 just scrolling with all of the different names and all the different fonts. 1087 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:16,440 I don't know. 1088 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,540 That'd be cool. 1089 00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:17,900 Yeah. 1090 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,660 Consolidation of all their work. 1091 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:19,940 Right. 1092 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Right. 1093 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:22,040 Into just this long. 1094 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:22,500 I don't know. 1095 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,300 I like 1096 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:23,700 that. 1097 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:23,980 I, 1098 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,820 all of these could work, honestly. 1099 00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:27,920 I don't think there's a right answer. 1100 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:29,620 People love merch, right? 1101 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,960 People 1102 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,620 love merch about 1103 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:31,160 themselves. 1104 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:31,640 Yeah. 1105 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,140 Oh yeah. 1106 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,240 Oh, you target their friends and family. 1107 00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:36,280 Whether it's something that you don't. 1108 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:37,620 Like this would be a great gift. 1109 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,020 I mean, 1110 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320 so like if there was a tool, like a 1111 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,460 website to 1112 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:45,040 So here's Doyle Lewis, here's all the films he's been in. 1113 00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:48,640 If you want to create memorabilia or buy it for him-- 1114 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:49,240 Absolutely. 1115 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Yeah. 1116 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,200 People are proud of their kids or whatever, right? 1117 00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:54,260 Definitely. 1118 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,900 That might actually be cool, too. 1119 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,560 You were joking, David. 1120 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,980 And my director bought me this shirt. 1121 00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:00,920 But if you have the 1122 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,160 production company or whatever 1123 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,100 able to place a bulk order for everyone 1124 00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:05,880 as their thank you for working on this gift, 1125 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,120 it seems like an easy way to get a couple hundred orders. 1126 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,440 I mean, there's-- listen, I feel like the floor 1127 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,900 pretty low. There's some real dog shit rap gifts out there, you know, and just just some like, you know, 1128 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:23,900 the Bourne identity not even in the movie font, you know, just in like Ariel, you know, like on a t-shirt. 1129 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,220 On a mug. Right, exactly. 1130 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:25,860 Yeah. 1131 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:29,940 It's I feel like that wouldn't even be very expensive, like none of this shit would 1132 00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:30,920 be expensive, you know. 1133 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,620 I like my favorites the scroll idea. 1134 00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:33,300 I like that a 1135 00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:37,900 lot. The credits but in flat form like an old ancient scroll. 1136 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:43,060 That's cool. Yes, that would be fun. Yeah, like get the the weathered paper so you could just be like 1137 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:44,380 You know 1138 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,320 Maybe you can have the poster on one side and this and the credits on the other right? 1139 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Oh, that'd be cool 1140 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,140 How legal we 1141 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:55,320 could or how far you get without getting sued for trademarking? 1142 00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:58,300 Let's push a lot of like a lot of triple 1143 00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:00,300 -a movies make like a thing 1144 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,340 of their credits, too 1145 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:05,280 They're like they've got the art your characters like dancing around the credits and stuff, right? 1146 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,440 So this might border on infringement. 1147 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:09,040 I don't know. 1148 00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:12,120 - It doesn't have to be the produced credits, right? 1149 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,480 It could just be our own version 1150 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,720 of 1151 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,120 parody credits. 1152 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:16,460 We put a... 1153 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:16,679 - Right. 1154 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:18,240 - Parody credits. 1155 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:19,659 - How does parody law work? 1156 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:20,820 We gotta talk about that. 1157 00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:21,020 I'm one 1158 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:21,820 of these spit-falsies. 1159 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:24,200 - I feel like you could play pretty fast and loose with it. 1160 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Listen, I don't know, man. 1161 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:30,300 Is anybody gonna be checking on this shit in like a year 1162 00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:32,720 once the United States 1163 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,600 like is no 1164 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,720 longer a thing, you know? 1165 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,980 When the US Patent and Copyright Office is shut down. 1166 00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:38,460 Right, 1167 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,120 exactly. 1168 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,260 Maybe that won't happen because that's 1169 00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:41,840 like-- 1170 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,700 Corporate interests. 1171 00:34:43,090 --> 00:34:43,240 Exactly, 1172 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:43,659 yeah. 1173 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,260 The oligarchs, Disney, whatever. 1174 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,220 The very last thing to go. 1175 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,800 Who owns the patent office now? 1176 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,080 Is it Elon, or is it-- 1177 00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:52,280 Disney. 1178 00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:53,659 Bezos is his point. 1179 00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,360 Disney, Disney, that's it. 1180 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,340 All right, Leo, what have you brought this week? 1181 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,920 All right, y'all been to Sam's Club in the last two years? 1182 00:35:05,340 --> 00:35:05,680 Costco? 1183 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,380 I'm not familiar. 1184 00:35:06,799 --> 00:35:07,160 Costco's 1185 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,560 the better Sam's Club, and we all know it. 1186 00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:10,980 But if you end up slumming it in a Sam's Club, 1187 00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:13,060 they have 1188 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:17,120 taken the high school janitor's floor cleaner 1189 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,620 that you ride on, and they've made it self-driving. 1190 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,780 And it's the coolest thing to watch in the world. 1191 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,740 All day long, 1192 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:23,220 this thing's 1193 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:24,240 just going, beep, beep, 1194 00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:26,540 and driving around and going back up and down the aisles. 1195 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,460 And not only is it autonomously cleaning the floors, 1196 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040 but it has a stick with a camera on it, 1197 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,500 and it's taking inventory of all the shelves. 1198 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:35,000 - What? 1199 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,560 - It's so 1200 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:35,920 cool. 1201 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,040 It's how it drives. 1202 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,940 It'll just like stop and wait for people 1203 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,300 with their carts to go by and stuff, 1204 00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,280 and then it'll just keep going 1205 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,400 and it beeps every 10 seconds. 1206 00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:43,040 It's so fun. 1207 00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:45,060 I love it, and I'm very inspired by it. 1208 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960 Parallel to that, I know, that's already, 1209 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,780 that's not even a pitch, that's a product that exists. 1210 00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:51,080 - That's amazing. - Parallel to that, 1211 00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:53,160 we have in our town, 1212 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400 one of thousands of Midwest festivals that happen. 1213 00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:59,000 We love our festivals around here. 1214 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,660 And in order to prepare our town for it, 1215 00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,580 Our grounds and city hall and all that 1216 00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:09,400 go crazy with beautification, including street sweepers. 1217 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,640 We have so many of them. 1218 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,460 I know autonomous vehicles are very hard, 1219 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,780 but what if you had an autonomous vehicle 1220 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,420 whose only job was to stick real close to the curb 1221 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,700 and street sweep? 1222 00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:24,260 It seems like the perfect usage, the perfect little niche 1223 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440 for baby's first self-driving. 1224 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,500 My pitch-- 1225 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,960 I don't think that would necessarily 1226 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,600 be that hard. 1227 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,000 No. 1228 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:31,680 Take 1229 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,160 my Roomba and put it outside? 1230 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:33,840 (laughing) 1231 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,640 Roomba, street sweeper, outdoor, 1232 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:39,100 self-driving street sweepers, yes. 1233 00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:40,360 It seems like-- 1234 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,680 Why not? 1235 00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:43,440 You'd have the camera so you could do the whole like, 1236 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,620 you know, mapping out of all the streets and stuff 1237 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,980 and have an up-to-date map of, I don't know, 1238 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:51,040 what would you wanna have real-time information on? 1239 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,160 It's like Street View but daily updated, right? 1240 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:54,320 And it's just going 1241 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,700 around. 1242 00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:57,440 It's gotta be the size of like a Zamboni or smaller, 1243 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,160 a little thing. 1244 00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:00,900 Full-size driven street sweepers are not that 1245 00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:01,160 big. 1246 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,280 They are like half a car. 1247 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:03,540 I love the idea. 1248 00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:06,160 And I'm trying to figure out what other data you 1249 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:07,640 could collect to make it an easier 1250 00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:08,980 sell to the municipality. 1251 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,140 Like, our town is notorious for if you have not 1252 00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:14,940 cut your lawn in a reasonable time, 1253 00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:15,380 they will put 1254 00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:16,420 a little ticket on your door 1255 00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:16,900 and be like, 1256 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:18,080 hey, guys, you got to do that. 1257 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,760 We'll find you. 1258 00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:22,140 Well, this robot actually hops up and trims out the lawn, too. 1259 00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:22,760 I forgot 1260 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,220 to mention that. 1261 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,300 It's got blades on the back. 1262 00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:25,100 Of course, of course. 1263 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:26,500 Yes. 1264 00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:29,820 Yeah, it's got citation management. 1265 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,500 You just put in a fence and you didn't pull a permit. 1266 00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:33,000 This 1267 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,240 vehicle's not registered. 1268 00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:34,800 The robot 1269 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,500 saw, yeah, right. 1270 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,180 It's got like the equivalent of like a pigeon launcher, 1271 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,080 but the pigeon is just like a disc 1272 00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:44,840 with a bunch of tickets 1273 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,780 like stapled 1274 00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:46,680 to the other side. 1275 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:49,160 Just shoots it inside your window as it goes 1276 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,540 by. 1277 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:51,480 Through a brick full of citations. 1278 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,480 Yeah, exactly. 1279 00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:55,840 Each one's stuck into the hole, 1280 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:56,900 that it just yeah 1281 00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,980 we are teetering on the edge of powered mail delivery 1282 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:00,500 robots 1283 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:01,080 I think here 1284 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,180 this thing 1285 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:05,880 is the mailman - it shoots you packages right 1286 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,800 it yeah 1287 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:15,460 couldn't be more American we gave the mailman a gun this pitch evolved 1288 00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:15,800 quick 1289 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,000 yeah but seriously getting 1290 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,480 back to the core right this thing hugs the curb the 1291 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,940 whole time. 1292 00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:22,300 Yeah. 1293 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,140 It goes slow. 1294 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:25,500 It's like cautious by nature. 1295 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,800 It's something that people are already trained to go around. 1296 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:32,020 You could absolutely take an existing street sweeper 1297 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:33,080 and retrofit this thing. 1298 00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:35,920 I cannot imagine that they have a very complicated driving 1299 00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:36,280 pattern. 1300 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:36,940 They got to 1301 00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:38,700 go around trash cans 1302 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:39,620 and parked cars, 1303 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,940 and that's about the hardest 1304 00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:41,680 that it gets, right? 1305 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,740 I mean, that sort of lower speed decision making is-- 1306 00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:49,040 I mean, it's a solved problem for 1307 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,120 sure. 1308 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,100 They can do it in a Sam's Club where people are walking around with 1309 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:52,280 their 1310 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,760 toddlers. 1311 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:53,880 Yeah, for sure. 1312 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:54,280 That's the 1313 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,800 speed that this thing needs to go. 1314 00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:57,080 It works all day, 1315 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,820 all night. 1316 00:38:58,220 --> 00:38:58,320 Doesn't 1317 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,740 sleep. 1318 00:38:59,020 --> 00:38:59,340 Yes. 1319 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,240 You don't have to pay 1320 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:00,340 it. 1321 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,820 Hell, and you don't have to get it healthcare, you 1322 00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:03,160 know. 1323 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,500 That's 1324 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:03,720 right. 1325 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,900 To our city parks department. 1326 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,340 I'm sorry. 1327 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,300 I'm gunning for your job. 1328 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:09,860 It never says that it wants to work from home, you know, 1329 00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:13,060 unlike the existing 1330 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:14,120 street sweeper drivers. 1331 00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:15,240 Right. 1332 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480 But you can imagine a fleet of 10 of these things, right? 1333 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,420 They come back to their charging station like a Roomba. 1334 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:20,860 Yeah. 1335 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,320 Could we just have it so the street sweepers work from home? 1336 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,580 We just give them a remote control in there. 1337 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,060 Like, we take out all the AI part of this 1338 00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:29,380 and just 1339 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:31,560 have them drive the robot. 1340 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,760 At least there's a stopgap until we can get the AI part 1341 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,180 figured 1342 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:35,340 out. 1343 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:35,780 And then five Indonesian children 1344 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:36,720 are remote controlling 1345 00:39:36,740 --> 00:39:36,880 this. 1346 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,160 Yes. 1347 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:37,820 Uh-huh. 1348 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:38,720 Uh-huh. 1349 00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:39,120 Yep. 1350 00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:40,460 You got it. 1351 00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,580 But damn, they'd be better than any American driver 1352 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,360 behind 1353 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:44,600 the wheel. 1354 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,140 Of course they would. 1355 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:45,760 Yeah, for real. 1356 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,760 even with a couple seconds of latency. 1357 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:51,940 - They're like professional gamers 1358 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:54,640 just cleaning the entire city in 30 minutes. 1359 00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:57,940 - They're all Rainbow Six Siege 1360 00:39:57,940 --> 00:39:59,780 high tier people. 1361 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,480 - Downtown Kalamazoo speed run 80%. 1362 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:03,980 - They can do 1363 00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:06,100 7,000 ping and they'll beat you 1364 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:06,780 every single day. - So Pivoting, 1365 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:07,900 this is now 1366 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:09,820 a thing that Twitch has, right? 1367 00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,280 So we are 1368 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,139 going to turn this into a sport 1369 00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:14,320 that 1370 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,220 people can compete. 1371 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:15,720 Twitch clean streets. 1372 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:16,840 Exactly. 1373 00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,440 So anyone can plug in their controller and open your app, 1374 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840 and you're suddenly in control of a street sweeper 1375 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,500 across these United States. 1376 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:27,920 OK, you could seriously-- 1377 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,020 if you created a device that could pick up trash 1378 00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:32,680 in some form and gamified it 1379 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:32,980 in that 1380 00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:33,440 way-- 1381 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,460 No joke, though. 1382 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:34,700 --and you can control it-- 1383 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:35,260 Oh, man. 1384 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:36,700 The little park cleanup bot. 1385 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,000 You just solved global warming 1386 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,380 right there. 1387 00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:38,740 Absolutely. 1388 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,700 You turn park cleanup 2025 simulator 1389 00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:43,860 into a remote control robot thing. 1390 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:44,220 That's 1391 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:44,560 great. 1392 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,140 I'm the beach cleaner guy. 1393 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:47,980 I love that. 1394 00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:48,060 I 1395 00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:50,040 mean, I genuinely think a lot about like, 1396 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600 if the government decided that they were gonna do 1397 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,660 universal basic income, but they were still mad about people 1398 00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,520 like maybe not working, you could do a make work program 1399 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,440 of a whole bunch of things like that. 1400 00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:05,300 You could even do like, I've been watching a lot of like, 1401 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,420 biology type videos where people just go out for surveys 1402 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120 of like bugs and snakes and stuff. 1403 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319 And it's really funny to be how much of that work 1404 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640 Just walking around, finding bugs, you know, 1405 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,740 finding creatures. 1406 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,920 Like, I feel like you could do like a distributed 1407 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,460 citizen science and just have like a bunch of yokels 1408 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,680 walking around being like, 1409 00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:28,500 "I seen a bird with my camera, look!" 1410 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:29,200 You know, and you just 1411 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,040 like, "Oh, look 1412 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,720 a bird!" 1413 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640 I don't know, I mean, that feels like that would be, 1414 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,280 if that was my job, man, that would be awesome. 1415 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:37,960 I would love that. 1416 00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:40,079 Get paid to walk around in the woods 1417 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,380 and look at creatures for a survey. 1418 00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:47,960 Get paid to sit at home and do street sweeping simulator 1419 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,860 2025, but it's real and I'm actually helping. 1420 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,180 Yeah. 1421 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:53,500 The market's there. 1422 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:55,080 The market is absolutely there. 1423 00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:55,240 If 1424 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,100 people will drive Euro Truck Simulator. 1425 00:41:57,620 --> 00:41:59,760 I mean, if people will do forklift 1426 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,120 simulator and 1427 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,820 power 1428 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,160 washing simulator, people 1429 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,440 like doing stuff. 1430 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,140 There's a pitch. 1431 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,719 Power washing simulator plug-in, but it's actually 1432 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,060 cleaning 1433 00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:10,220 your local community 1434 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:10,780 centers. 1435 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,860 - Whoa, that'd be great. 1436 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,020 - We need a Spitball on that. 1437 00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:14,500 I wanna go hard on that. 1438 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:15,500 - Absolutely. 1439 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:17,620 - It's Ender's game, 1440 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,480 but it's 1441 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,060 just helpful. 1442 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:19,120 - They 1443 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,380 flip it to real life without you even knowing. 1444 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:21,880 - Right, 1445 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,220 it's just a nice thing. 1446 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:25,860 - That's literally what I wrote down, Ender's game. 1447 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,620 (laughing) 1448 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,060 For street sweeping. 1449 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,040 - Ender, don't be mad. 1450 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,720 This whole time you've actually been 1451 00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:32,100 cleaning 1452 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:32,900 the homeless shelter. 1453 00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:33,280 - All 1454 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,980 you need is a Snapchat filter 1455 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,560 that makes it look like a game. 1456 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,740 like takes in real life images and you know, 1457 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,620 takes out all the resolution. 1458 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,480 You must never lose in order to win. 1459 00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:46,980 And then you just get paid money all of a sudden, right? 1460 00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:47,260 You're like, 1461 00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:47,900 holy cow, 1462 00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,220 I'm making money or something. 1463 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,980 - I mean, it would be great. 1464 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,080 - And no, seriously, it would not 1465 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,500 be hard 1466 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,380 to make a power washing robot 1467 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,120 that you can remote 1468 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,340 control from anywhere. 1469 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:54,760 - It would be 1470 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,400 really not hard. 1471 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,640 - Just a couple 1472 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,760 of, a power washer, 1473 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,540 like some kind of shaft that goes up and down 1474 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,420 with an angle on 1475 00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:00,540 it. 1476 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,260 - Right. - Oh my God. 1477 00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:03,140 - Well, you need also, you know, 1478 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,800 if you're gonna do a robot, 1479 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,840 You also have to have image recognition 1480 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,600 so you're not giving people fluid injection injuries. 1481 00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:12,280 No, that's all on the person driving the thing. 1482 00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:13,500 This is America. 1483 00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:14,180 We don't have safety. 1484 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,100 How does it get set up and plugged in? 1485 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,140 You hire one guy, and he 1486 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,500 runs around and drops it off. 1487 00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:22,000 One really, really stressed out guy with a laptop. 1488 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:22,640 That's 1489 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,240 usually how 1490 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:23,520 it works. 1491 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:23,820 He's got 1492 00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:25,460 20 of these things in his garage, 1493 00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:27,840 and he just drops it off and runs to the next place. 1494 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:29,060 There needs to 1495 00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:31,400 be five guys with laptops, 1496 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:33,240 and they're all still kind of stressed. 1497 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:34,800 But there's only one. 1498 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,280 - But at least they work from home. 1499 00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,340 - Well, they work from, it's one of those things 1500 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720 where it's remote, but it's like 50% travel. 1501 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,820 But the travel would be local, so it'd be fine, you know. 1502 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:44,820 (laughing) 1503 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,140 - It's just down to my coffee shop. 1504 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,980 - I'm sorry I 1505 00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:48,760 drove the street 1506 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,240 sweeper 1507 00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:50,440 through that brick wall. 1508 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:50,740 I 1509 00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:51,840 was on the airplane wifi 1510 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,800 and I 1511 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,280 got some 1512 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,480 lag. 1513 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,520 (laughing) 1514 00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:56,540 - Okay, hear me out. 1515 00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:59,960 Could you just like triple your human cost on there 1516 00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:02,560 and have like three people all controlling the same one? 1517 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,760 and then as a fail safe, do it Age of 1518 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,560 Empires style. 1519 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,640 -Oh, so like 1520 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,460 three people controlling 1521 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,220 the same player. 1522 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,140 -You're all trying to do 1523 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:12,160 the same thing and there's a right and wrong answer, 1524 00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:14,580 but if two of the three say that this person's wrong, 1525 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,540 then they get negative points or something. 1526 00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:17,660 -Consensus model. 1527 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,260 It's like the opposite of a firing squad, 1528 00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:23,280 where only one person 1529 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,100 has the bullet. 1530 00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:25,560 [laughter] 1531 00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:26,380 -As 1532 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:29,140 long as it was score-based and really horrible. 1533 00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:31,000 -It weights them based off 1534 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,380 of how good their driving's been in the 1535 00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:32,760 past. 1536 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,480 - Yeah, based on the other two. 1537 00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:36,360 And as long as all three of you are the same, then. 1538 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,800 - Well, I mean, you're accruing a score. 1539 00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:40,800 I've got a 4.9 rating in my staying between the lines 1540 00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:42,120 and you're only a 2.6. 1541 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,900 - It's out of 10, man. 1542 00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:43,940 - Oh, fun. 1543 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,740 - What if, okay, local residents 1544 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,180 just bought street sweepers, okay? 1545 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,320 Hypothetically, 1546 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:50,760 okay? 1547 00:44:52,339 --> 00:44:53,360 Government incentivizes them. 1548 00:44:53,710 --> 00:44:56,160 All right, you buy this special street sweeper, 1549 00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:58,460 you get all the compost that comes out of it, 1550 00:44:58,980 --> 00:44:59,340 hypothetically. 1551 00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:01,940 It's a lot of free, like, what is, 1552 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,160 Do you know, Leo, if people take all those leaves 1553 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,540 and they just throw it in the dump? 1554 00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:08,180 Are they composting 1555 00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:08,420 it? 1556 00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:10,240 There is such thing as a vacuum truck 1557 00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:12,460 that's different than the street sweeper that just brushes, 1558 00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:13,700 but doesn't actually-- 1559 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:15,080 Oh, I guess that's what they 1560 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,320 do. 1561 00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:15,960 They don't pick up 1562 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,720 any of the materials. 1563 00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:19,460 But there is-- what you're describing does exist also. 1564 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,700 So yeah, we could have a fleet of vacuum trucks. 1565 00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:22,540 [LAUGHS] 1566 00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:26,840 And you get the compost from it. 1567 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:26,920 I think 1568 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,700 that compost is one of these hidden revenue sources. 1569 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,860 and I thought maybe this would be a-- 1570 00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:34,700 - Isn't compost expensive? 1571 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,880 Compost is like-- 1572 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,320 - No idea. 1573 00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:37,840 - Guys, it's like eight bucks a pound. 1574 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,480 - You can make your own free compost, 1575 00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:40,740 but people don't wanna do it. 1576 00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:40,920 - It's 1577 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,820 a lot of work. 1578 00:45:42,070 --> 00:45:42,720 And I thought maybe 1579 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,220 you can take all 1580 00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:45,480 the community leaves 1581 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:47,540 and just boom, compost it. 1582 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,200 - I think you definitely can. 1583 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:54,500 I mean, Grand Rapids does like civic yard waste collection. 1584 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,200 You know, they do a good job with that. 1585 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,420 I'm assuming, well, I hope it doesn't get incinerated, 1586 00:45:59,660 --> 00:45:59,840 but it 1587 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:00,300 probably does. 1588 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,140 products that they collect get filtered and then sold to 1589 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:05,640 Soil making 1590 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,740 place like six bucks a bag or something really good stuff, you know, yeah 1591 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,080 Yeah, 1592 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,160 cuz they turned they did all of that, you know 1593 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,880 Work that it takes right? 1594 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,100 Yeah. Yeah, 1595 00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:17,520 I mean I like 1596 00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:23,380 I like collecting the like just the piles of like rotten leaves 1597 00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:29,640 That like collect around my house and it's like well sweep that up and dump it on you know stuff 1598 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,340 I want to grow it's it's already dirt by the time it comes spring, 1599 00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:33,620 you know 1600 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,420 Mm-hmm. 1601 00:46:34,450 --> 00:46:40,140 I don't really I don't really mow my lawn ever or like I raked leaves for a few years 1602 00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,260 And then I discover the joy of mowing your 1603 00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:42,800 leaves and 1604 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480 mulching it all that is been my last two years 1605 00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:46,200 Lifehack 1606 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,240 absolute game changer. Yeah, they get too high just 1607 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:53,160 mow it. We have a street collection system in 1608 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,620 Our local town here. They'll come twice a year and pick up your your sticks and stuff from the curbside 1609 00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:00,060 and 1610 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:00,900 that 1611 00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,280 all gets shuffled away. 1612 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560 Another great candidate for dump truck 1613 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:06,620 front end loader 1614 00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:07,620 simulator people. 1615 00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:08,220 (laughing) 1616 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:09,940 - Ab-so 1617 00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:10,960 -lutely. 1618 00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:11,780 - That'd be fun. - Oh yeah. 1619 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:12,560 - I love this. 1620 00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:12,800 This 1621 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,220 is morphing 1622 00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:15,260 into autonomous vehicle video 1623 00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:16,040 gamification. 1624 00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:16,920 This is fun. 1625 00:47:17,380 --> 00:47:18,240 - That would be awesome. 1626 00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:22,920 I mean, you know that's going to be a genre of job, 1627 00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:25,600 like certainly within our lifetimes, right? 1628 00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:26,820 Like 100%? 1629 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,700 - It's never dawned 1630 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:28,360 on me, but yeah, 1631 00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:30,020 This is probably not untreaded ground. 1632 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,800 - Right, like you just add something to your lawnmower 1633 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,160 and now somebody mows your lawn. 1634 00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:35,100 It's like Uber, 1635 00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:36,360 you just hit a button 1636 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,300 and it just mows your lawn. 1637 00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:39,680 Turns left and right. 1638 00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,780 This is, Scott, you made this whole autonomous snowplow. 1639 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960 It's too hard to make the robot version, right? 1640 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,660 So like you just get the human version. 1641 00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:51,020 - Tell me about your snowplow. 1642 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,900 What's the deal with the 1643 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:52,160 snowplow? 1644 00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:52,860 - Durabot. 1645 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,400 That 1646 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:53,560 was 1647 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,500 our senior design 1648 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:54,920 project. 1649 00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:56,500 We thought we were so clever. 1650 00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:59,140 And then Michigan, we made a prototype. 1651 00:47:59,380 --> 00:48:01,600 And then Michigan Tech that winter 1652 00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:03,660 had a contest for all the students 1653 00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:04,920 to make autonomous snowplows. 1654 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400 And they beat the absolute crap out of what we made. 1655 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,060 So yeah, we let that patent die and moved on. 1656 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,020 Michigan 1657 00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:11,760 Tech did that? 1658 00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:12,620 You didn't sue them? 1659 00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:12,980 Of course 1660 00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:13,260 they 1661 00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:13,420 did. 1662 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,620 Those engineers are nuts. 1663 00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:16,620 They have nothing to do 1664 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:17,760 up there except be good engineers. 1665 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,760 What was the biggest difference? 1666 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:24,040 Like, what was it that made it so much more of a killer app? 1667 00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:24,320 Well, 1668 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:25,180 Michigan Tech-- 1669 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,200 Why was theirs better? 1670 00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:29,640 Yeah, yeah, why was their snow pile just so much superior? 1671 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,360 Was 1672 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,960 it a bunch of things? 1673 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,720 All the things ours was 1674 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,840 bouncing around using an invisible dog 1675 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:36,640 fence as its perimeter and trying to go straight lines. 1676 00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:36,840 Do you 1677 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,620 have any idea 1678 00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:38,760 how hard it is to make 1679 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,280 a robot go in a straight line? 1680 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,460 It's obscenely difficult. 1681 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:43,280 I don't 1682 00:48:43,350 --> 00:48:44,360 care how many compasses 1683 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,820 and accelerometers and crap on it, 1684 00:48:45,860 --> 00:48:47,380 it'll always start to weave, which 1685 00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:49,860 is why I like your sidewalk sweeper, Leo, 1686 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:50,400 because it has 1687 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,280 a curb to follow. 1688 00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:53,620 It just-- I know where I'm at, and I just 1689 00:48:53,650 --> 00:48:54,420 keep going from there. 1690 00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:57,180 98% of the time it's literally on a track. 1691 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,280 - That's so much easier. 1692 00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,480 It can cross the street. 1693 00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:00,200 I can go to straight 1694 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,140 line for, you know, 1695 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,940 20 feet before I get the curb again. 1696 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,580 - Also, I have to imagine things have gotten 1697 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,620 a little bit better since you attempted that, Scott. 1698 00:49:08,940 --> 00:49:10,520 - Yeah, there's probably a couple more LIDAR 1699 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,940 off the shelf kits and 1700 00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:12,240 stuff. 1701 00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:12,720 - Yeah, that's right. 1702 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,680 That was 10 years ago. 1703 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:15,940 - A lot of this stuff has been kind of like 1704 00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,660 made a lot easier even in those 10 years. 1705 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,240 - Would you mow your lawn from your computer? 1706 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,400 - Never. - Or snowplow? 1707 00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:22,840 - Never. 1708 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,040 - Hill plow, yes, 1709 00:49:24,340 --> 00:49:25,080 100%. 1710 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,640 Yeah, that would be fun. 1711 00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:27,600 I would love that. 1712 00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:28,780 - I fantasized about 1713 00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:31,300 the little lawn mowing robots a lot. 1714 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,940 You can get them for under a grand now. 1715 00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:37,020 The little Hertz Covina Roomba, but for lawn mowing. 1716 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:37,660 They're 1717 00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:38,040 sweet. 1718 00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:38,700 - I would love that. 1719 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,240 - That's awesome. 1720 00:49:39,619 --> 00:49:41,300 - No, I probably wouldn't do it for my computer, 1721 00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:43,700 but if I could pay a robot to do it, I would. 1722 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,040 - See, okay, that's what I'm wondering. 1723 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:47,780 Like, would you Roomba your house 1724 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,720 if you could remote control it from your computer? 1725 00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:51,040 Like, all right, I got a vacuum. 1726 00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:51,740 - That? 1727 00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:51,960 - Can I get 1728 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,560 to my desk? 1729 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:58,100 I but snow plowing I have so little snow to plow that I think it would be fun 1730 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,220 Pull out the Xbox controller and 1731 00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:00,980 yeah couch 1732 00:50:00,980 --> 00:50:03,740 for an hour and a half vacuuming right under your feet, 1733 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,420 right? 1734 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,240 like 1735 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,680 Sorry, that's amazing. Well, I mean that's what we're doing for lawn mowing and snow plowing right in 1736 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:12,920 a way 1737 00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:18,220 I I think the biggest issue with that is like as soon as you control a video game vehicle 1738 00:50:19,060 --> 00:50:22,040 You immediately start driving like a dumbass 1739 00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:28,320 Like instantly, you know, and so I think you'd have to really fight the impulse to like 1740 00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:30,300 Crash the shit 1741 00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:32,220 out of your thing for fun. You know, 1742 00:50:32,660 --> 00:50:35,720 I forgot this wasn't Grand Theft Auto right ran over a hooker 1743 00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:36,360 Yeah, this is 1744 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,840 it for tonight. I can't like ramp my shit off of like a hundred like meter cliff and be fine 1745 00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:42,480 You know, 1746 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,340 okay totally different tangent 1747 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:44,860 on there 1748 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,320 You 1749 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,020 said Xbox 1750 00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:48,580 controller mowing your lawn is snow plowing driveway or whatever 1751 00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:52,900 Could you do it once where you drive it yourself and follow it around? 1752 00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:58,800 Like record it and then just dead reckoning do it the next time just hit play and have it go again 1753 00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,700 I think 1754 00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:04,080 so you'd have to do a lot of like built-in course 1755 00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:07,900 Automatic course correction. Yes, we got LIDAR we could 1756 00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:14,820 yeah. Yeah 1757 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,960 - Yeah, a mouse is fine. 1758 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,540 You can do that one time and it'll just repeat. 1759 00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:21,060 I think there are so many weird little, 1760 00:51:22,060 --> 00:51:23,920 snow plowing especially, you're gonna get into 1761 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640 a bunch of really dumb, annoying physics 1762 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,420 that make it so 1763 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:30,920 that the forces it's feeling 1764 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,540 are very 1765 00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:31,980 different. 1766 00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:32,900 Yeah, absolutely. 1767 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,880 - It is. 1768 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,500 - I think it would be doable for sure. 1769 00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:37,380 - I remember making some programs 1770 00:51:37,580 --> 00:51:39,400 with Windows screen recorder 1771 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:41,040 where it records your mouse clicks 1772 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,860 and it's like, but if you move the mouse, 1773 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,560 well, I don't know. 1774 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:46,460 You could have some points on your lawn, right? 1775 00:51:46,580 --> 00:51:48,320 That it just always course corrects to. 1776 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,640 - Oh yeah. 1777 00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:49,620 It's doable. 1778 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,960 I think it's totally doable, but you know. 1779 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,080 - Well, dear listener, as you are sitting on the couch, 1780 00:51:56,420 --> 00:51:57,560 having us on in the background, 1781 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,620 mowing your lawn and driving around your Roomba, 1782 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,120 we hope you enjoyed yourself. 1783 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:04,920 And thank you so much, David, for being here. 1784 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,580 This was so fun. 1785 00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:06,260 - This was a blast. 1786 00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:07,540 I had a really nice time. 1787 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,400 - Our website is Spitball.show. 1788 00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:11,980 There you can find our YouTube channel, 1789 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,020 other social media, email us, comments, feedback, ideas. 1790 00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:15,880 We'd love to hear from you. 1791 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,440 We're podcast@Spitball.show. 1792 00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:19,580 That's also how you can follow us on the Fediverse, 1793 00:52:19,690 --> 00:52:20,460 such as Mastodon. 1794 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:22,180 We are podcast@Spitball.show. 1795 00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:24,600 And we are on Blue Sky @Spitball.show. 1796 00:52:25,179 --> 00:52:27,140 Our subreddit is r/spitballshow. 1797 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,720 Our intro/outro music is Swingers by Bonkers Beat Club. 1798 00:52:30,220 --> 00:52:31,180 Please, if you wouldn't mind, 1799 00:52:31,340 --> 00:52:34,560 you know that one friend who is always coming into work 1800 00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:36,060 stained with grass, and you're like, 1801 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,300 "Did you get up at 4 a.m. just to mow your lawn? 1802 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,380 "How do you already have so much gumption? 1803 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,000 I barely rolled out of bed to get here. 1804 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:42,980 Tell them about our show. 1805 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:43,440 I'm 1806 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,060 sure we'd love to have them 1807 00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:44,460 as a listener. 1808 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,040 If you wouldn't mind, review us on Apple Podcasts, 1809 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,880 Spotify, whatever it is that you're listening on right now. 1810 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,660 That's the best way for people to find out about the show. 1811 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,780 New episodes coming out in two weeks. 1812 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,880 We will see you then. 1813 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,400 (dramatic music)